The next President of Ireland, if only SF had had 20 Oireachtas members, if only they had the support of Independents, and small parties, and the Easter Bunny and the Fine Gael Ard Fheis *… or the improbable secret history of the Peace Process. October 10, 2007
Posted by WorldbyStorm in Media and Journalism, Northern Ireland, Sinn Féin, The North, media.trackback
Another week, another article by Ed Moloney about Sinn Féin. I hate to take him to task – particularly after noting some curious ideas of his as regards the insincerity of G. Adams as contrasted with the blinding sincerity of Ruairí Ó Brádaigh. But needs must. Actually, I’m somewhat amused to be having to defend Adams yet again considering my own political outlook and heritage (and by the way, it’s not just Adams. I’m also defending Eric Hobsbawm over on Socialist Unity – it’s one of those weeks).
Under the heading: President Adams plan is parked we read,
Sinn Féin hoped to get Gerry Adams elected president of Ireland in succession to Mary McAleese. But the party’s poor May election showing has scuppered the ambitious plan…Instead of the 12 or even 15 seats that some in the party had privately predicted could be won, Sinn Féin ended up with four TDs, not even enough to qualify for full speaking rights at Taoiseach’s question time in the Dáil, never mind a junior coalition partner…
Well, I was talking to SF people the day of the election and their own predictions appeared to be averaging out at 10. Perhaps some, somewhere thought 15 was realistic but for my money the most realistic appraisal I saw pre-Election was that in Phoenix magazine which was very very close to the final outcome. Looking at that I thought they’d retain 5 TDs (although oddly enough I thought Ferris might be goner) and perhaps get two or three more. Grand total 8 or 9. The extras seemed to be coming from MLM – on a good day, the two candidates in Donegal and one or two of the Dublin candidates. But even there I was dubious. I know Dublin North East, and the idea that Larry O’Toole was going to take a seat there appeared highly unlikely. I find it difficult to believe that SF were so blinded that they didn’t accept some of that analysis and moderate their own ambitions accordingly. Of course it is also important to note that political parties lie, they talk up election prospects and so forth. Still, if one is taking it as an article of faith that SF is capable of any deceit being able to parse out the usual old politicking from their ‘project’ is probably difficult.
However, what was not known at the time of the election was that the result was actually much worse for the party. The poor performance dealt a body blow to an ambitious and highly secret plan to get Gerry Adams elected as president of Ireland in the 2011 presidential poll…
…Two parts of Sinn Féin’s election strategy were well known and never a secret. One was to overtake the SDLP to become the largest nationalist party in the North. Another was to become large enough in the South to qualify for partnership in government with Fianna Fáil. If both strategies had been successful then Sinn Féin could have been in office on both sides of the Border at the same time.
Most observers believed that if this state of affairs came about the high point in the Sinn Féin strategy would have been reached. Certainly a successful conclusion like this would mean that Adams, who is widely acknowledged to have been the real moving force behind the birth and development of the peace process, would have a secure place in the republican pantheon…
To which one can only suggest that he already is in that pantheon for better or worse… Of course the fly in that particular ointment was the clear statement by Fianna Fáil that they would not enter coalition with Sinn Féin. Now some might doubt the sincerity of that statement but I’ll address that later…
…the third part [of the SF strategy] was to seek Gerry Adams’s elevation to the presidency – and while it was kept secret outside Sinn Féin’s inner councils it was apparently known to both the Irish and British governments during their tortuous dealings with Sinn Féin leading to the new Stormont government.
The goal of running Adams for president was entirely dependent upon success in elections to the Dáil, and that is why May’s poor result has scuppered the plan. Had the result gone better for Sinn Féin then the party would have been in a position to exercise a clause in Bunreacht na hÉireann to allow them to nominate Adams for the presidency. Article 12 (4) of the Constitution says that if a person is nominated by 20 members of the Oireachtas then he or she is eligible to stand.
Had Sinn Féin won 12 or so seats last May then with one or two Senators elected as well they would have been within shouting distance of the required 20 nominators.
There would have been ample scope for Sinn Féin to secure the extra votes needed through deals with the smaller parties and/or with Independents…
Okay, let’s look at the reality of this as distinct from the tabloidesque delivery. What smaller parties is Moloney referring to. The Socialist Party? The Greens? The Progressive Democrats? Even if we accept that the GP and the SP were willing to operate (as distinct from work) with SF in the last Dáil in the Technical Group the idea that that would extend to active support of an SF nominee is simply absurd. Moloney seems to forget (or ignore, or perhaps simply not know) that in the last Dáil the GP floated the idea of putting forward their own candidate Eamon Ryan. Hard to impossible to see them accepting G. Adams as an ‘agreed’ nominee. And then take Joe Higgins. Ideologically it would have been near impossible for him to support an SF candidacy. Of the Independents, well Seamus Healy didn’t get elected and Finian McGrath went into supporting the government. The crop of previous Independents such as James Breen and Paudge Connolly were much more inclined to Fianna Fáil. Tony Gregory? Not really a friend of SF – or Gerry Adams – if one studies some of his public pronouncements. And that leaves? Well, no one.
And these mythical Senators? In May 2007 what were the names of likely SF Senatorial candidates? Moloney ignores the events which led to the election of one SF Senator. And while it is possible that Ahern might have nominated a couple of SF Senators that is to ignore a further political reality that shaped the current administration. Whatever SF wanted it is fairly clear that if push had come to shove and Ahern was unable to assemble our present coalition of all the talents he would have defaulted to Labour.
So one has to suspect that Moloney is suffering in his own way from something rather similar to that which afflicted SF in the run up to the last election – that being a certain lack of knowledge on the detail of politics in the 26 counties. And that is crucial to the credibility of this thesis.
I have no doubt SF has – in it’s less grounded moments – pondered the idea that Adams might be elected President. But there’s many a slip between cup and lip. To get to that point would need a lot more than 12 TDs. Would in fact need… why 20 TDs and Senators. A figure that quite frankly is unbelievable as a realistic number today and was equally unbelievable in May of this year. And for all the talk of long term plans, which having come from a party with fairly utopian visions of its future, I don’t find quite as unbelievable I suspect that they might not have been quite as precise. After all, whatever the efficacy of SF strategists in the North over the past two decades or so, we’re not yet talking about Hari Seldon.
Another reason to believe the strategy has been fatally wounded lies in the timing of elections. The next Dáil election, assuming Taoiseach Bertie Ahern again serves a full term, may not happen until 2012 while the next presidential election is scheduled for November 2011, thus very possibly putting the target of 20 Oireachtas supporters entirely beyond reach.
I make no secret of wishing the centre left, the left and the further left in this country and on this island well. I think we could see a useful and productive coherency between left parties in the future. But the pragmatist inside tells me that an SF with 20 Oireachtas members is unachievable in less than a decade or two, if ever. I’ve argued here before that there is a niche for SF, that being in or around 7 to 12 TDs. I think that is the best they can hope for. Presently they will do well in 2012 to make 7 or 8 TDs.
Meanwhile, back at the article:
The existence of this secret strategy explains one or two aspects of the way Gerry Adams has conducted himself in recent years. It helps to explain, for instance, why, unlike other Sinn Féin figures, Adams has made persistent denials of any association with the IRA.
Any admission of such activity could become a liability during the election campaign. Many of his trips overseas, some in statesman-mode, now make more sense as does his courtship of Nelson Mandela of South Africa.
Had May’s election produced a happier result for Sinn Féin and Adams was encouraged to run, he would not have to face one obstacle that in the past could have been a burden. The election of Mary McAleese in 1997 means that Southern voters have got used to the idea of a Northerner in the Phoenix Park. Intriguingly the idea for McAleese’s nomination came from Fr Alex Reid, the Redemptorist priest who worked with Adams in developing the peace process.
The beauty of this approach is that it is a single transferable conspiracy. Every action, every event can be compressed to fit the overall thesis. Father Reid is all but presented as dashing off his signature on Adams nomination papers. Mandela is fitted out for the party political broadcast. Yet there are many reasons SF might see high profile meetings with Mandela as important, and they go way beyond the Presidency of Ireland. The denial of association with the IRA could be for any number of reasons – and remember that denial long predates the Peace Process. And being logical for one second, the Peace Process was not an inevitability. It is possible that those opposed to it within the Republican movement might have been stronger, that rather than the Real IRA being a futile splinter it might have taken the bulk of PIRA with it – a sort of reprise of the OIRA/PIRA split as it were. With that as a very real possibility – and not merely prior to that split, but after it as well as the GFA began to bed down – it seems to me that Adams and his allies would do all they could to present themselves as a leadership with important contacts both at home and abroad. To propose that everything merely becomes a backdrop to Adams is, by contrast, to offer a very very selective reading of history.
And the thesis is that Gerry Adams is beyond redemption, utterly malign, cynical, ambitious and so forth. So malign and ambitious in fact that a key ’secret’ dynamic of the Peace Process was to make him President of the Republic of Ireland. The fairly clear subtext being that on the way everything was sold out, that perhaps this secret is ‘the’ secret of the process. But, curiously, that line of argument isn’t made explicit here although the careful ‘reading’ of recent and not so recent Irish political history is shaped to that end. And the last line, after some further discussion of Adams diminished status reads…
The more Sinn Féin behaves itself in the new dispensation, say DUP sources, the less support there will be for their own dissidents.
How are we to read this? That this arch manipulator has been brought to heel by the DUP, now has to ‘behave’ in order to stave off Unionist ‘dissidents’. Some small comfort for the rest of us , perhaps, that minor detail that Adams and the PSF leadership managed to bring themselves and the overwhelming Republican constituency to a negotiated settlement within the six counties. That we see Adams and Paisley sit together, what was it? Barely half a year ago. And in a context where for the first time in generations the propensity for armed struggle has been replaced by the appetite for engagement. No comfort at all clearly for Ed Moloney.
* My apologies to the Golden Horde for robbing their lyric in part…

Agree with almost everything you said. The quality of Maloney’s analysis has been continuing its slide for some time but this is poor stuff even by his standards these days. Firstly, the point you make that the Shinners would get 12 to 15 TDs or Senators and then, possibly through magical powers, get the remaining half dozen from an Oireachtas whose various political parties and individuals unite only on their antipathy to the Shinners. Michael McDowell and Joe Higgins might have agreed on little, but they’d both sooner rot than help get Gerry Adams into the Phoenix Park.
But I disagree with you that it was even ever a serious possibility for Sinn Féin. I’m sure they’d wet themselves at the idea of seeing Adams as President of Ireland, but they’re also not complete idiots. Whatever about getting the nomination, they know he wouldn’t win an election. He is too polarising a figure, his voting support base is too low. Regardless of the low opinion many of us have of Adams, within Sinn Féin, and in particular within the party’s dominant Northern cadre, he is just short of walking on water. They are not going to risk a man they see as a massive political and electoral asset (Even after his shambles of a performance in May) by running him in an election in which it would be a miracle if he polled 20%. Never mind that he would be in his 70s when his term was up.
Love the dig about the funding of the Adams run btw. As Maloney clearly doesn’t know you can claim back money spent in a Presidential election campaign.
frank, I didn’t know that about funding.
I just thought that the overall thinking on display chimes with a certain agenda, one which is very much a media construct and is totally divorced from actual Irish politics.
There’s also the small matter of securing 50% + 1 of the votes after the final count. Ed Maloney seems to treat that as a fait accompli. Does Ed think Adams might secure a first-past-the post victory as the other candidates fragment the FF/FG/Lab vote?
rewind 18th September 2004
“However, given the difficulties experienced obtaining the necessary nomination and resources, Eamon Ryan informed the meeting that he would not be able to proceed with his election challenge.
Deputy Ryan said he deeply regrets not being able to provide a democratic electoral forum for the debate on Ireland’s future direction.”
Maybe he will try to provide it now in time for 2011.
Of course, if one was to believe the Moloney thesis, then all should not be parked yet. Local elections still to come where an improved SF performance might leave them able to get the backing of four councils for a nomination.
It will be interesting who FF will come up with, considering the successful candidate will preside over 2016.
Ed Maloney’s work is just terrible.Thing is, he gets taken seriously.
Ed Moloney is pretty good on some things and in the past much of what he wrote deserved to be taken seriously. However like many of us who have been involved in writing about the north over the last 30 odd years, his knowledge of the fine detail of the political process in the southern state is clearly wanting. But then until of late so was Gerry Adams
Perhaps instead of the shinners debating who would or would not get this political post etc in the South, they might be more productive it they gave some thought to exactly why they want a share of power and what they would do with it if they attain it.
The problem is in the Stormont administration, policy wise they are just following a script written by the British government, as to are the DUP, thus they have no need to bother their heads with a program for government and it is hight time they did.
“Perhaps instead of the shinners debating who would or would not get this political post etc in the South, they might be more productive it they gave some thought to exactly why they want a share of power and what they would do with it if they attain it.”
sorry Mick, but you seem to be taking as true Ed Maloney’s opinion that Sinn Féin were seriously considering running Gerry Adams as a presidential candidate. The gist of worldbystorm’s post, if I’ve read it correct, is that no such debate has taken place, at least, not in a serious, policy way.
Ed Maloney’s analysis has the cut and thrust of a bookie, working on the odds of his analysis appearing as true, something which he tends to do a lot. Take his own Munich agreement moment, with Maloney stepping off the plane with Father Reid’s letter in his hand, ready to show the world what was really going on. Terrible stuff.
Now some might doubt the sincerity of that statement
This leads me to suggest an amusing competition in which posters are invited to compose a statement from FF of which the sincerity would not be doubted. Points will be awarded for subtlety.
“frank, I didn’t know that about funding.”
Little known fact:
Any candidate who gets more than a quarter of the vote is entitled to a refund of campaign expenses up to a maximum of 260,000 Euros. If Maloney’s thesis was right, Sinn Féin could spend just over a quarter of a million Euros for their ’successful’ campaign and not have to pay a penny for it.
Puts a new gloss on Ryan’s refusal to run….
http://archives.tcm.ie/irishexaminer/2004/07/08/story234578132.asp
Good news for my own campaign in 2012.
Conor,
Your mistaken in that I am not taking Ed’s word on whether the shinners intended to stand Adams for the presidency, however I believe that was their intention/hope when they were on a run. One should never under estimate the fact that the SF leadership clique lived in a very small world, the Brits certainly did not, hence all those ego boosting enticements they put in Gerry and McG way.
Whether it was some carefully thought out plan to stand as Ed claims I doubt very much. As being such a cautious man Adams would never have made such a decision without all the pegs in place first. He has been defeated in one election and I doubt he will wish to repeat that in this life time.[West Belfast]
Since the end of the war what I find interesting is just how provincial most of the northern leadership of SF look, although their TDs are not any more cosmopolitan. If they are to progress they are in desperate need of some new faces.
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