The dismal nostalgia of dissident Irish Republicanism… or, taking us back to the Troubles. February 13, 2008
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In a report in from last week in the Irish Times Gerry Moriarty notes that:
Dissident republicans are dangerous but incapable of waging a sustained campaign of violence, the PSNI chief constable Sir Hugh Orde stated after the police warned of expected attacks from groups such as the Real IRA and Continuity IRA.
Virtually in tandem with the warning, five people were arrested by the PSNI in Newry and the Jonesborough area of south Armagh over yesterday and Tuesday. Two were released while three were still in custody and were being questioned about “serious crime”, according to the police.
It appears that the latest vanguard of the Republic, in all it’s disparate forms, is eager to remind us of it’s currently – and fortunately – rather supine existence. This comes hot on the heels of a report in the Sunday Tribune under the heading “Real IRA: ‘The war is back on” (which Donagh of Dublin makes some points about here )
Republican Sinn Féin, which is linked to the Continuity IRA, condemned the arrests. “We in Republican Sinn Féin will continue to promote our programme for a true peace with justice in Ireland in spite of ongoing harassment of our members and supporters by those opposed to Irish freedom. We will not allow ourselves to be diverted from seeking a permanent end to the cancerous British presence in our country,” said RSF’s press officer, Richard Walsh.
On this site I’ve continued to probe away at the core issue that I believe faces Republicans on this island, how to engage with Unionism. To hear RSF continue to pretend that the conflict is reducible to a ‘cancerous British presence’ is laughable. It might be one element that has prolonged the problems, but the only one?
Last week the police warned of the danger of dissident republican incendiary bomb attacks on businesses in Northern Ireland. Late on Tuesday night the PSNI said it was “stepping up operations across Northern Ireland to disrupt dissident republicans”.
The PSNI in alerting the public to the “increased terrorist threat” said there would be a return to the use of vehicle checkpoints in an attempt to thwart the plans of the dissident groups. This level of alert has not been experienced in Northern Ireland in recent years.
This is serious. But although as in the following quote we can see the dismal potential for worse, it hasn’t happened yet.
Sir Hugh said the dissidents were “inept” and “disorganised” but nonetheless “dangerous”. In November two PSNI officers, in Derry and Dungannon, Co Tyrone, were shot and wounded in Real IRA attacks.
Clearly the impulse to continue remains.
Conversely, last month an Irish man and an Irish woman were arrested in a “sting” operation in Lithuania on suspicion of trying to buy a significant quantity of arms and explosives for the Real IRA.
Both police and politicians are anxious that Northern Ireland does not return to the days of daily checkpoints featuring heavily armed and armoured police, and more particularly should British army backup be required. The nature of this warning and the appeal for the public to be vigilant indicates that this threat is being taken seriously.
“We have a general warning of a threat which increased to the point where we had to go public,” said Sir Hugh at Stormont yesterday. While the alert is significant Sir Hugh said the dissidents did not have the capability “to mount anything that’s even close to being sustained”.
And this follows on from an utterly cynical interview in the Sunday Tribune purporting to be from the Army Council of the Real IRA (this it should be noted comes with a health warning as to the accuracy and provenance of same – see below). Apparently they are ‘preparing to launch a new offensive after a major three-year internal reorganisation’. In it they claim that:
“With more attacks on the RUC/PSNI we believe we can reach the stage where British soldiers are brought back onto the streets to bolster the cops.
“This will shatter the facade that the British presence has gone and normality reigns.
People will once again be made visibly aware that we remain occupied, “
Cynical? Well consider this. Political violence in Northern Ireland is now at an historic low for the last three decades. There is a broad based agreement between Unionism and Republicanism/Nationalism. Yet these paragons of Republicanism have decided that in order to further their political struggle ‘attacks’ are justified in order that they breed further attacks. And the problem, from their perspective, is that there is a sort of ‘normality’. It’s far from perfect, but it’s also a far far cry from the situation extant in the 1980s.
One could summarise it as ‘we will beat you until you understand’. It is also a vision wedded to a sort of nostalgia for the bad old days, when the world was a more dangerous, and more certain place. That this certainty involved the death of many is almost irrelevant. That one can now argue that many – if not all – of those deaths were largely pointless as all engaged in vicious little educative process does not appear to dent their enthusiasm. On an ethical level this is bankrupt stuff. But it’s also stupidly counterproductive. It was hard enough to continue to shoot RUC members when every such act had at least some hint of a sectarian element to it in that they were drawn overwhelmingly from the Unionist/Protestant community. With the PSNI being more broad based it is difficult to see how successful shootings would not produce an arguably unknowable or unpredictable response (indeed it’s telling how limited attacks have been on PSNI members over the past number of years) and one which might not be in any way to the liking of RIRA and its supporters.
And on a practical level it seems unlikely that they could provoke the sort of response that they so desperately appear to seek. Is it credible that the state will act in the way they wish, that it would impose the sort of interventions that increased the hostility of the nationalist community in the 1970s and kept it simmering for much of the 1980s and into the 1990s? Is it credible that nationalists will respond in the same way either? One could suggest that the dismal showing of dissident Republicanism at the Assembly elections last year demonstrates the almost total lack of appetite for their project amongst the population at large. But allied to that is the clear appropriation of localised state power in that Assembly and Executive. This simply is not Stormont Mk I. It may indeed be flawed, but the basis of any serious analytical approach is some degree of honesty.
Having looked at the path to the conflict in some detail it is difficult not to register the way in which a myriad of different forces converged to provide the impetus towards a sustained armed struggle. Those forces simply do not exist today.
The statement from RIRA is, as smiffy of these parts noted on P.ie, mathematically incoherent, as in the quote where they say:
The attempted murder of two police officers in Derry and Dungannon in November showed “the IRA believed it could kill a cop and take whatever the state threw at it”. The Real IRA hasn’t bombed Britain in six years. When asked if this was to change, the army council representative said: “We will attack Britain where and when we see fit. The law of averages suggests the longer a target hasn’t been hit, then the more likely it is to be attacked.”
The law of averages tells us no such thing. But perhaps one should be glad that this is the level of discourse within their organisation.
Worse again they continue to attempt to put clear blue water between them and the Omagh bombing (indeed I’m working on a Myths of the Peace Process on just that topic).
In a controversial claim, the Real IRA alleged it had “minimal involvement” in the Omagh bomb: “Our codeword was used . . . nothing more. To have stated this at the time would have been lost in an understandable wave of emotion. That is the only detail on Omagh we’re prepared to give at the moment.”
Previously, it had been claimed in some quarters that while the Real IRA made the bomb, Continuity IRA members planted it. However, the Real IRA is now alleging it didn’t even make the bomb. Coming 10 years after the atrocity in which 29 people were killed, and without any detailed information to support its claim, the Real IRA’s statement will be treated with scepticism.
Scepticism isn’t the word. This is, from the information available, an entirely deceitful rewriting of history. RIRA were heavily involved in the Omagh bombing, that much is entirely clear. They had prior to that carried out a campaign of town bombings across that year. Omagh was the predictable result of detonating explosive devices in urban areas. Sooner or later deaths would occur. They did. Appalling to see that outcome, mere insult added in any attempt by them to pretend that they held no responsibility or to minimise that responsibility.
And we have an unpleasant echo of previous periods of the conflict in an almost parodic language that owes as much to business schools as it does to any concept of Republican struggle:
The paramilitary group warned of firebomb attacks on shops and businesses in the north. Although it views members of the Stormont executive, including Martin McGuinness, as “British ministers” and hence “legitimate targets”, it is unlikely to attack them.
“Targets aren’t always chosen on legitimacy but on whether hitting them would be politically expedient or counter-productive and on the likely effect on public support, ” the Real IRA leader said. But this decision would be “kept under review”.
Interestingly in the latest edition of the Phoenix there is a piece on just this subject where it is proposed that the ‘flood of media stories’ are similar to the ones last year about a supposed “Terror Convention” in Toomebridge. The source for those stories is now apparently exposed as a British agent, leading the Phoenix to wonder if all this isn’t just a ploy by MI5, now billeted at their fine new offices in Co. Down. Perhaps, but that might be an underestimation of the capacity for some to remain wedded to the gun, even – or particularly – in the absence of a political strategy of any seriousness. What it does point up, yet again, is the manner in which the British have managed to penetrate dissident Republican groupings. Chalk that one up to yet another failure by the latter.
And finally, this political paucity of their project is exemplified when they state “[the RIRA] wasn’t engaged in any direct or indirect talks with the British or Irish governments’.
On the face of these statements there is no political programme beyond self-referential and entirely unconvincing rhetoric which follows the content and form of previous campaigns, but with one crucial ingredient missing. There is no apparent base for such activities, no segment of the population enraged or alienated sufficiently to give the tacit/overt support that is necessary to fuel and sustain conflict. The critique of previous campaigns that you read here does not ignore a recognition of the fact that political aspects of the conflict by almost all actors drove towards prolonging the conflict – here we have one actor attempting to restart that conflict on an armed level.
So what then is the point of the exercise? Because, as I’ve also noted before, the end point of all this sort of activity leads to a table with Unionists at it. There is no way of avoiding that, wishing it away, pretending that they don’t exist. One does not have to agree with the Unionist perspective in the slightest to accept that it has a force of its own and has to be taken account of in any effort to move towards a new political future on this island.
How many attempted shootings or fire bombed shops will it take to make the slightest difference to the response of those waiting around that table?

I have been buying the Phoenix since the early 1990s,and
I have never seen any articles even mildly critical of Sinn
Fein. Kinda undermines its claim to be a daring and
anti-establishment publication.
And have any Irish scandals ever been broken by Phoenix, and team Goldhawk?
At least Private Eye blew the whistle on the Poulson affair.
I think they broke the Father Michael Cleary scandal….but that’s
all I can remember.
“as I’ve also noted before, the end point of all this sort of activity leads to a table with Unionists at it.”
Exactly, as I have roared in many a boozer for the last thirty years ‘you cannot shoot a million people into the republic’, We seem to have finally got to that table, and we are trying another route to the end result. It may not bring us to the culmination we once envisaged but we do not have to go to bed with a shooter under the pillow.
The Tribune piece is headline chasing by some journalist talking to an armchair revolutionary and the Phoenix has great covers and a some very good cartoons. Buy it for the laughs lads….. But do not miss out on the serious point being made here.
Bit pompous that last sentence, but there you go….
I have been buying the Phoenix since the early 1990s,and
I have never seen any articles even mildly critical of Sinn
Fein
The Phoenix is often mildly critical of Sinn Féin, although maybe not for the reasons you would be critical of Sinn Féin. There’s a mildly critical article in this week’s edition, just for one.
Usually they’re critical of it from a leftish stance that SF are ’selling out’…
Paddy P was a member of the British International Socialists Irish dept in the Seventies, which became the SWP you all know and love in 1977. He came back home and worked for Hibernia and then got all caught up in the Adams/Morrison Provos shift left in 1980-81 and especially the post hunger-strike rise of SF. I noticed some critical stuff about SF recently but theres plenty of other scandals involving the ‘RA in Dublin that Phoenix would never touch and it is always on message about the Securocrats and their perfidious ways. Those who knew PP thought he was a right…well you you can guess. V. sneaky and given to personal vendettas (though arn’t we all?) Hence Phoenix will occasionally have an article slaughtering some minor TV presenter or journalist, and you’ll wonder why until you realise that she either turned down some advance at a party or told him his magazine was shite. And it is.
“Those who knew PP thought he was a right…well you you can guess. V. sneaky and given to personal vendettas (though arn’t we all?)”
Just like Aengus Fanning or Eoghan Harris. Or the guy who
runs the Irish Political Review.
As a satire magazine, Phoenix isn’t funny-certainly Hot Press
has far better cartoons (we salute Tom Matthews!).
Does anybody know of any other Irish satire magazines that were around?
Years ago, there was the satirical “Dublin Opinion” magazine. I think
Frank Kelly’s father used to write for it.
Back on the RIRA, what can we say about this “make the Brits drop the mask of normality” shtick, except that it’s provocateurism pure and simple. Real counsel of despair – reminds me of the RAF.
I did like this though:
Although it views members of the Stormont executive, including Martin McGuinness, as “British ministers” and hence “legitimate targets”, it is unlikely to attack them.
Blimey O’Reilly – if they really wanted to make things kick off…
I knew PP back in the early 1990s. I sort of liked him. He was enormously anti-WP when I knew him, which was entertaining (for me, at least!).
Phil, that’s precisely what I thought re RAF. It’s so much whistling in the dark… and that’s a great point you make re McGuinness. Yeah. Imagine that. That’d really work, wouldn’t it? They’d be annihilated in five minutes flat. That’s what I loathe about certain aspects of Republicanism (while considering myself a Republican), the sort of shadowboxing stuff… bah…
The Phoenix claimed that the publicty shots that accompanied the RIRA article in the Tribune were actually of Provos years ago. Be interesting to see if the Tribune respond because either the Phoenix is bullshitting (not unlikely) or the Tribune was fooled (not unlikely either). (and the Tribune journalist is famously off-message with the Provos)
I see the Guardian claimed yesterday that the man murdered in Donegal was killed by the RIRA and that this was the first dissident killing in years. Weren’t two men brutally killed in a CIRA feud in belfast last year? The media coverage is depressing but not half as depressing as the fact that people are still being killed over this shite.
Ed Hayes description of PPs earlier political history is inaccurate. By 1973, PP was a dissident member of IS/later SWP having political differences with them on their opportunistic politics on Ireland – opportunist from the point of view that they only used the political issue of Ireland for party building purposes. [How true these words are even today!] By this stage he was a political cothinker of Gery Lawless. He joined an opposition group which later became Workers Power. He left them when they joined Workers Fight, Sean Matgamnas group at the time. Around this time the IRSP was emerging and he was hopeful about their political evolution for a period. He moved to Dublin in 1978/79. Since then he has been an independent socialist republican close to Sinn Fein especially after the degeneration/ disintegration of the IRPs. This would be accurate up to 2000 and I have no reason to believe that that his outlook has changed since. I doubt that O Bradaigs politics would have any appeal to him or a potentially disasterous Harvester Mark II.
In my first scan of the comments in this post, I missed the following Ed Hayes comments:
Those who knew PP thought he was a right…well you you can guess. V. sneaky and given to personal vendettas (though arn’t we all?) Hence Phoenix will occasionally have an article slaughtering some minor TV presenter or journalist, and you’ll wonder why until you realise that she either turned down some advance at a party or told him his magazine was shite.
In the absence of any sources or evidence, surely these comments are an infringement of the Cedar Lounge moderation policy.
Brian writes: [Sorry guys, I cant do the blue strip insertion of quotes]
As a satire magazine, Phoenix isn’t funny-certainly Hot Press has
far better cartoons (we salute Tom Matthews!).
Does anybody know of any other Irish satire magazines that were around?
While I dont get Hot Press in London I would agree that Phoenix is not very funny. Other Irish satire magazines that were around ? Do any readers remember Focalin? It was produced in London in the late 1970s / early 80s by an editorial group who were former members of the original Peoples Democracy. Unfortunately, I dont have any copies but IMHO it was hilariously funny. It used to run a series of letters from Paddy of Cricklewood which were a send-up of ??
I agree strongly with the penultimate paragraph of WbS but there is need for urgent discussion on the way forward within that framework. I also feel that the Irish Political Review group have much to contribute to that discussion.
Ach sinn sceal eile.
Sorry Nollaig, I wasn’t writing an academic essay so I forgot the footnotes. I entirely withdraw any suggestion that the prevelance of photographs of young women, salacious references and ‘off-colour’ stories, including fairly homophobic ones years ago infer that the editor of the Phoenix is anything but a paragon of virtue.
As for the artists formerly known as BICO they certainly are contributing to something, not entirely sure what it is.
BTW your not the Nollaig who wrote in the IPR about how the Jews are bringing all this stuff on themselves are you?
In response to Ed Hayes disgraceful attempt at innuendo again unsourced, may I inform other readers [Mr Hayes is beyond redemption] that, to date, I have written nothing for IPR but I would recommend it to those with greater powers of comprehension than Mr Hayes.
I am suprised that WbS has not commented on these contributions of Mr Hayes in view of the launching of the moderation policy with much ado recently. Or is this policy just for the occasional contributors ?!
In response to my protests that Mr Hayes without evidence accused PP of using Phoenix to wage vendettas against people with whom he had personal differences [post 7], Mr Hayes then changes tack/muddies the water and accuses the magazine of being sexist and carrying homophobic stories ….years ago! ( Dùirt bean gur dùirt bean eile ….)
His final buille scòir is his attempt to take out an each-way bet on me being an antisemite ( Are you the Fergus Farrelly ..)
NollaigO, I’ve just seen these having been otherwise occupied most of the week. There is unfortunately – or not – only one of me. I agree with you Ed’s question at the very least should have been completely rephrased and that the insinuation was unfair. And you are correct, PP was always fairly close to an IRSP perspective/independent socialist. Whether the Phoenix wages vendetta’s is a separate issue. I tend to think not. However, I’m also dubious as to it’s radicalism which strikes me as of the lite variety. Can I ask people to get a tad less heated on all this?
There was an article by Desmond Fennell in one issue of the
IPR called about the “special position of the Jews”-I haven’t
read it, but apparently it was strongly anti-Zionist. Articles
from Brendan & Angela Clifford were apparently reprinted
by Palestine sympathizers. B & A used to support Israel in the
70s, but never as aggressively as they supported the Ulster
Unionists.
“Is it credible that the state will act in the way they wish, that it would impose the sort of interventions that increased the hostility of the nationalist community in the 1970s and kept it simmering for much of the 1980s and into the 1990s?”
Could the dissidents start the war over again? I doubt
it-there isn’t enough support for a return to
violence in the Nationalist community, AFAIK.