Comments on: Enda Kenny. He can not be serious… and what about Ciaran Cannon? http://cedarlounge.wordpress.com/2008/11/04/enda-kenny-he-can-not-be-serious-and-what-about-ciaran-cannon/ For Lefties too Stubborn to Quit Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:52:50 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: XPD - the expedient demise of the Progressive Democrats. « The Cedar Lounge Revolution http://cedarlounge.wordpress.com/2008/11/04/enda-kenny-he-can-not-be-serious-and-what-about-ciaran-cannon/#comment-38058 XPD - the expedient demise of the Progressive Democrats. « The Cedar Lounge Revolution Sun, 09 Nov 2008 20:59:22 +0000 http://cedarlounge.wordpress.com/?p=3033#comment-38058 [...] Well, starting at the top, and I mean the top, the Oireachtas representation of the PDs are delighted. And why wouldn’t they be? The second and third stages of their electoral rocket - the councillors and general membership that is - sufficed unto the day to see them safely home… to the Oireachtas. Their careers either safely parked - Harney leaves the Dáil at the end of this term, the others are in a lather of anticipation about their new political homes. [...] [...] Well, starting at the top, and I mean the top, the Oireachtas representation of the PDs are delighted. And why wouldn’t they be? The second and third stages of their electoral rocket – the councillors and general membership that is – sufficed unto the day to see them safely home… to the Oireachtas. Their careers either safely parked – Harney leaves the Dáil at the end of this term, the others are in a lather of anticipation about their new political homes. [...]

]]> By: WorldbyStorm http://cedarlounge.wordpress.com/2008/11/04/enda-kenny-he-can-not-be-serious-and-what-about-ciaran-cannon/#comment-37947 WorldbyStorm Thu, 06 Nov 2008 23:28:14 +0000 http://cedarlounge.wordpress.com/?p=3033#comment-37947 Actually Dan, that's just your assumption that the PDs would have to be included. 51+20 FG and Lab, plus 6 Green, 4 SF makes 81. Add in Lowry, Gregory and McGrath and one has 84. Some creative accounting might even give the CC's position to a PD. Unwieldy, short lived, no doubt - although in such a context would the then opposition want an election - surely, but no more so than whatever he seems to be proposing now. Actually Dan, that’s just your assumption that the PDs would have to be included. 51+20 FG and Lab, plus 6 Green, 4 SF makes 81. Add in Lowry, Gregory and McGrath and one has 84. Some creative accounting might even give the CC’s position to a PD. Unwieldy, short lived, no doubt – although in such a context would the then opposition want an election – surely, but no more so than whatever he seems to be proposing now.

]]> By: skidmarx http://cedarlounge.wordpress.com/2008/11/04/enda-kenny-he-can-not-be-serious-and-what-about-ciaran-cannon/#comment-37810 skidmarx Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:08:51 +0000 http://cedarlounge.wordpress.com/?p=3033#comment-37810 About as unwieldy as the governing coalition in Fourth Green Field (Lost or Stolen). Seems to indicate he doesn't regard the PDs as a "political" party. About as unwieldy as the governing coalition in Fourth Green Field (Lost or Stolen).

Seems to indicate he doesn’t regard the PDs as a “political” party.

]]> By: Dan Sullivan http://cedarlounge.wordpress.com/2008/11/04/enda-kenny-he-can-not-be-serious-and-what-about-ciaran-cannon/#comment-37796 Dan Sullivan Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:53:00 +0000 http://cedarlounge.wordpress.com/?p=3033#comment-37796 I'm lost as to how that jibe "that if Fine Gael had been willing to incorporate Sinn Féin into an arrangement then they would have been in government today " was effective at all given that at the time the numbers didn't make it possible with also having the PDs in there too. After isn't that the reason the Greens keep telling people that they weren't able to do a deal with anyone other than FF, because the numbers weren't there. I agree that the Greens most likely won't now pull out (once they threw their hands up over education it was all over) but I wouldn't bet against some FFer finding the prospect of running as an indo next time more to their liking that as a FF cannon fodder candidate. FF will lose Dublin South most likely and due to the last Dail seeing no demises we all appear to be have forgotten that the bony lad with the scythe can claim any of us at any time. I’m lost as to how that jibe “that if Fine Gael had been willing to incorporate Sinn Féin into an arrangement then they would have been in government today ” was effective at all given that at the time the numbers didn’t make it possible with also having the PDs in there too. After isn’t that the reason the Greens keep telling people that they weren’t able to do a deal with anyone other than FF, because the numbers weren’t there.

I agree that the Greens most likely won’t now pull out (once they threw their hands up over education it was all over) but I wouldn’t bet against some FFer finding the prospect of running as an indo next time more to their liking that as a FF cannon fodder candidate. FF will lose Dublin South most likely and due to the last Dail seeing no demises we all appear to be have forgotten that the bony lad with the scythe can claim any of us at any time.

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