A green line in the sand? May 18, 2010
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The point about second pensions is quite intriguing. Not least because pensioners have already demonstrated themselves as the one group, outside the commercial sectors, that the Government is genuinely wary of.
It will be interesting come Budget 2011 to see whether this one is crossed or not… I’m not holding my breath.
The Irish political parties and election debates. Self-serving? Why yes! Would we expect any better? We would not. May 18, 2010
Posted by WorldbyStorm in Irish Politics, The Left.1 comment so far
I know this is late, but in a way and given the fall out from the British election it remains timely. The response of the political parties to the RTÉ proposals for a new look debate structure has been… typical. The idea is that it would be a three-fold process with the Fianna Fáil, Fine Gael and Labour leaders – whoever they might be come election time, debating amongst themselves first. Then there would be a debate between the Labour, Green Party and Sinn Féin leaders mid-way and finally a debate between the leaders of FF and FG.
Now, in fairness to the parties it’s hard to think of anything more calculated to infuriate the parties. Consider the response from Labour. Eamon Gilmore said:
Rejecting the concept that Labour would participate in a debate with the Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael leaders at the start, but not at the end of the campaign, he said: “That’s like giving us a run-out in the first round of the championship and telling us we can’t play in the final.”
Well, yes.
Take Fianna Fáil:
Commenting on the proposals, a spokesman for Fianna Fáil said yesterday: “It is a bit premature at this stage considering there are two more years to run and such matters are rarely discussed until an election is close.
“Our view is that the existing format between possible taoisigh has worked well and the measure of that is the numbers of people last time who watched the debate.
“When the election is under way, these matters will come up for discussion with RTÉ and any other broadcasters seeking to host such debates.”
I like the ‘possible taoisigh’ quip. But really, is that even a serious line of argument. On the current figures it would appear that the Fianna Fáil leader isn’t in the running (and a letter in last weeks IT noted this). So in truth would that logically presuppose a studio with E. Kenny talking more or less to himself?
And speaking of Fine Gael, the putative Labour partner in government?
“The existing arrangement, where the outgoing Taoiseach and leader of the Opposition engage in a policy debate, is the way to go.
“If you move from that, the focus shifts to the debate process rather than a discussion on the relevant issues, which are jobs, health and political reform.”
Well, that’s a master class in making a point that is not precisely clear. Why would it be any less of a debate on those issues with three rather than two viewpoints?
And even the smaller battalions aren’t exactly thrilled by the current concept. First up let’s note a nice bit of camaraderie down amongst the er… smaller formations.
Green Party leader and Minister for the Environment John Gormley said the proposals were “incredible and totally unacceptable”. He called for a five-party debate that would include the Greens and Sinn Féin.
A Sinn Féin spokesman also rejected the plan: “This is completely unacceptable. It clearly benefits the larger parties because Fianna Fáil, Fine Gael and Labour get two bites of the cherry. If there is going to be multi-party debates, they should be all-party debates.”
Well of course it benefits the larger parties. Although nice of SF to include Labour in that category.
But in truth, why not have a five party debate? It’s large, but not impossible to hold. It would be considerably less unwieldy than some of ones that we saw during the US Presidential nominations and it would have the crucial democratic and representational element of including those who are actually… well, y’know elected.
And the thing is that if Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil are clever so should they, because that would open up the possibility of pushing Labour towards what they might perceive as a ‘radical’ periphery as represented by Sinn Féin and to a lesser extent the Green Party. So not so much nice Mr. Gilmore, but instead Gilmore the harbinger of the radical left – and anyone who has followed Dáil debates will know that in extremis FF are always happy to chuck around the Workers’ Party years whenever it seems appropriate. By lumping Gilmore in with the others they could burnish their own pragmatic and sensible and mainstream credentials. It doesn’t have to happen that way, but that’s one way they could play it to their advantage.
Truth is there’s no way of doing this that isn’t going to present problems. Too many involved and the debate loses focus. Too few and it begins to distort the political process artificially by presenting simple binary choices. And all of us who belong to the left beyond the centre left – wherever that may leave us – know that even the broadest of choices in the Oireachtas is far from representative even of elected political strands in this state.
It’s here though that some of the most interesting implications of the rise of the Labour vote begin to impact. Because it’s only by taking the 2007 criteria that the Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael approach can even be [slightly] legitimised. But the irony is that for the media, so of the now and the immediate, it more than likely will be locked into a context which prevailed three, maybe four years ago. And that in and of itself will make the debates appear irrelevant – unless Cowen could stage a storming recovery. And if he does then the flawed nature of the debate itself will have impacted, and arguably entirely unfairly, on the context of at the larger democratic process.
That said I think Labour could, as was suggested in comments on the CLR a while back make considerable hay out of this. I think the essential inequity of the situation is so obvious that it plays to their advantage. And for RTÉ this presents an exquisite dilemma given that both Fine Gael and Labour appear likely to be power following an election. Either way they alienate someone and perhaps that accounts for RTÉ’s innovation in this area.
But surely this is something that we need some more independent body than RTÉ to be determining?
A spot of bother… May 17, 2010
Posted by WorldbyStorm in Culture, Economy, Irish Politics, The Left, Uncategorized.12 comments
John Waters is troubled by the minor outbreaks of violence during the week. Not very troubled for he sees it as unserious. And in that he may well be correct.
But he starts, as ever, with something insipid about ideology.
Catching sight last week of a poster advertising a “Right to Work” event, I was put in mind of Ali G’s deadpan question to Tony Benn: “Everyone’s goin’ on about the right to work – what about the right not to work?”
It’s a good joke, because it touches on something fundamental: the inability of ideologies to comprehend human desire for happiness resides neither in working nor not working, but always in a “something else”, and contingent on factors that change as that-which-is-desired is attained.
Is he entirely serious? Has he read Marx, or indeed the US Declaration of Independence, where working isn’t placed at the heart of human happiness but is indeed seen, in terms of the forms taken and structures within which it is currently and previously framed, to be entirely detrimental to human happiness (granted the Declaration of Independence is a little hazy on this, but the concept of ‘the pursuit of happiness’ is a not ignoble one)… I think I’ve asked this before of Waters, but has he read Gorz who explicitly positioned his thinking in a refutation that work was the be all and end all? Ah well, who can tell? Meanwhile…
At mention of the SWP, or Sinn Féin, or Éirigí, most people switch off, or just smile. It is not funny that a garda has been assaulted because of the inflammatory rantings of some well-heeled follower of Leon Trotsky, but still the whole thing suggests itself as something unserious.
Occasional outbreaks of such agitation are essential to the maintenance of the fiction that a democratic system embraces a wide range of options vying for the public’s attention. That they sometimes spike into the red suggests the limits of democratic freedom are being healthily explored. Thus, such episodes have precisely the opposite effect to that intended, deflating rather than exacerbating public dissatisfaction with “the system”.
…..In Violence (Profile Books, 2008), the Slovenian Marxist philosopher Slavoj ZiZek studies the presences of various kinds of violence under the surfaces of our societies. He argues street violence is an incoherent response to the hidden violence that holds societies together; that such demonstrations, far from threatening “the system”, are dramatisations of impotence, “blind acting out” in societies operated by systems impervious to any kind of citizen intervention.
Which is fine to an extent. There’s few enough of us I imagine who believe that violence from whatever quarter is going to have any great effect one way or another, or indeed will achieve anything particularly one way or another in this system. There’s also a strong argument that far from demonstrating something educative to those more broadly who might be won over it does quite the opposite… that it merely delegitimises the left by collapsing all left wing activism however variegated into a single easily transmitted narrative for the media and political class.
But then, returning to Waters … we move eastwards, for not content to make a fairly obvious point – and one that many on the left might share – which is that street protest doesn’t trump hard slog in communities, he has to go and up the ante…
A few days before the scenes of anarchy at Leinster House, a slightly different kind of mob gathered in front of the Liberal Democrats’ HQ in London to protest about, er, the first-past-the-post voting system. The emotions of this assembly had been whipped up not by a lone demagogue but by the media in general, which for three straight weeks had promoted Nick Clegg as the British Obama.
Er.. not quite, had our intrepid correspondent cared to actually read or watch the media he’d have seen that there was actually a push back from almost all sections of it at such an idea. And even in the media favorable to Clegg, the Guardian, the Independent and that’s about it, there was much less made of him being a British Obama than he’d like to think. Indeed truth is Clegg’s achievement, such as it were, was simply to appear least overly polished in the first and second debates. Now, it’s curious that Waters should ascribe to the media something that in truth was an achievement of Clegg himself.
I also would suggest that to argue that the ‘mob’ at the meetings of the LD weren’t whipped up by the media, but by the prospect that the Liberal Democrats were on the brink of going into government and were – rightly as it now appears – concerned that in any coalition deal, most likely with the Tories, going to dump PR in favour of a more limited variant, or none at all.
None of these, what I like to term, facts, troubles Waters in the slightest. For he carries gracelessly onwards…
In the election, the Lib-Dems’ vote had remained more or less the same as in 2005, but this in no way encumbered the delusion of the 1,000-strong gathering of Notting Hill luvvies that they were on Wenceslas Square in Prague, dateline 1968. Their faces were transfixed with hate, but all their banners said was “Save Our Votes”.
The ‘transfixed with hate’ line is a classic. Were they? Go back to YouTube and tell me whether it was hate or enthusiasm. I can’t tell, but I’m doubtful that ‘hate’ is the proper word. Moreover there’s a certain glibness about the 1968 point (or indeed the concept of ‘Notting Hill luvvies’ – far more likely to be words applicable either to Cameron’s set or the worst of New Labour). In a society like the UK there is a strong, even an over-riding case, that first past the post has been profoundly detrimental in producing perverse election results. The Liberal Democrats could rightly point to the fact that they have garnered extremely high poll ratings to no benefit precisely because of FPTP and that that system has led to a lock on power by other parties with vote shares only slightly ahead. This may interest Waters not in the slightest but it ill behoves to condescend to others about democratic deficits.
I have this odd feeling of late that everything is being acted out as a reprise of some inspirational moment from deep in the last century. Half of those who address us want to be Che, and the remainder JFK. Each development in the public lives of our societies becomes like a movie in which everyone becomes infused with a sense of what “should” happen, ie what would happen if it really was a movie. The media whip this up for all its worth, unleashing massive collective disappointment when it emerges that, actually, it’s the same plot as last time and drifting again in the same direction.
Hmmmm… who pray tell is Che and who is JFK in our society? I don’t see an even divide. And frankly I’d be dubious about hearing from anyone who thought they were even faintly echoing either.
Then we’re onto yet another tendentious phrase…
Although we live in an advanced capitalist society, in which psychology is far more important than ideology, our political culture remains frozen somewhere short of 1970.
Really? I must think of that when next at some community meeting, that psychology is more important than ideology, y’know, in terms of how peoples ‘choices’ are framed in terms of education, health, even – take public swimming pools, as indeed they are being taken, sporting and leisure activities and how privatisations and commercialisation tips up further an already uneven field. But for Waters it’s all reducible to one area…
Although the real divisions are now to be located within the torn, paradox-ridden heart of the individual, we still describe things in terms of “us” and “them”. Although our market culture conditions us to lionise and covet private property, our public discussions seem simultaneously to hold that wealth somehow rightly belongs to everyone. And, although welfare and other radical forms of redistribution have unleashed a statist monster that now threatens to throttle the life out of the individual, we find, while the “have-nots” are utterly uninterested in left-wing ideas, a ludicrous pseudo-socialism persists among the “haves”, more and more of whom employ the “most vulnerable” as human shields to protect their own stashes of loot.
Since when is welfare a ‘radical form of redistribution’. Waters, I’m almost certain, can hardly point to any society – let’s take the OECD as a sample – which doesn’t have it in one guise or another. The nonsense about a ‘statist monster’ ‘throttling the life out of the individual’, is boilerplate. But even if it were true that ‘socialism’ were of no interest to the have nots, whoever he may define them as, that would not prevent an imperative for socialists to do their utmost to ensure that at least some fragment, some spark of it remained. For him, though, to trot out that laziest of right wing analyses, that somehow socialism is merely a form of selfishness is truly sad. But what’s also curious is his sneering tone about such matters, as if poverty either doesn’t exist or can’t be ameliorated and therefore those who do concern themselves with it are essentially frauds.
What a pity. An innovative thinker who can’t even be bothered any longer to sort out that the basic stuff is correct. No more and no less.
Here’s éirígí’s take on some of the events of last week.
Irish Left Archive: Northern Ireland Assembly Election Manifesto, 2003 – Progressive Unionist Party May 17, 2010
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Well, here’s a first for the Archive, and perhaps something that will be seen as a little contentious. But if not explicitly socialist, at least not self-ascribed in the context of this document, the Progressive Unionist Party could, with some legitimacy, be regarded as the most leftwards force in contemporary Unionism and therefore worthy of inclusion in the Archive.
This document is the PUP Manifesto for the 2003 Northern Ireland Assembly elections. This was the second election to this body and saw the PUP lose one seat with only David Ervine being returned. It’s an interesting document that is quite short. An introduction from David Ervine that strongly reemphasises the unionist credentials of the party…
Division over Pro and Anti Agreement views has left our community with nothing but low morale. Today those divisions should be behind us. The position of the Progressive Unionist Party is as ever Pro Union. We have a clear vision for the future of Northern Ireland within the Union and a definitive strategy to drive that vision.
That said it also is explicit in recognising distinctions between the communities in terms of identity and identification…
To create a positive and progressive future in Northern Ireland I believe we need to focus on the two core issues of respect for our different national, political and cultural identities and the political legacy we will pass onto future generations.
The issue of respect is especially pertinent to the Unionist population at present. They feel that the Unionist identity is not being given the respect that it deserves. I believe they are right. As a committed Unionist myself I have always been proud of my community. Our national, political and cultural character is the result of centuries of experience and thought and thus, as I respect the identities of others, so I expect it in return. In the Progressive Unionist Party we believe that our future will be brighter when all politicians recognise and respect our differences. And it is my conviction that diverse identities will become a positive feature of a truly multicultural Northern Ireland.
It’s a little disappointing that there is very little explicit expression of left wing thinking or the terms ‘left’ or ‘social democrat’, let alone socialist – although it is notable that the term ‘working class’ is used in the text (and their website is less coy). In policy terms the closest it comes to this is the following:
The Progressive Unionist Party repudiates the values and ethos of the new right who seek to privatise the welfare state. We oppose the handing over of our future to PPP/PFI and unaccountable ‘Trusts’. We do not trust these bodies and thus we call for:
• Properly funded services directly governed by elected local authorities.
• Services that are geared to facilitate community needs and not limited to the needs of
stigmatised individuals.
• Local community social work teams and Family Centres as the main base for social welfare
activity.
• Social policies that are geared towards equipping families and individuals with the resources
and information to enable them to take control of their lives.
• An end to managerial social work and the overthrow of contract culture.
• An increase in the benefits for lone parents.
The list of candidates is particularly notable for the linkages to the voluntary and community sectors.
Many thanks to the person who forwarded this to the Archive.
Damned if they do… May 16, 2010
Posted by WorldbyStorm in Economy, European Politics, Irish Politics, The Left.6 comments
…I noted an earlier example of this idea during the week, but really, what to make of this?
EU authorities announced a massive debt safety net for Greece, Spain and Portugal this week, but investors remain sceptical those countries can take the pain of overhauling weak public finances.
“If you look long-term, everyone is worried about what these austerity measures will mean in terms of growth,” said Kathy Lien, director of currency research at GFT in New York.
The Dow Jones industrial average lost 207.76 points, or 1.93 per cent, at 10,575.19, while the Standard Poor’s 500 Index fell 27.09 points, or 2.34 per cent, to 1,130.35. The Nasdaq Composite Index was down 62.85 points, or 2.62 per cent, at 2,331.51. The EU’s emergency assistance plan has done little to bolster confidence in the euro system, a concern highlighted by White House economic adviser Paul Volcker. On Thursday, Mr Volcker said European debt troubles could undermine the single currency.
The euro slid as low $1.2358 on electronic trading platform EBS, the lowest since October 2008. It last traded at $1.2393.
“People are either concluding that these cuts will be unsuccessful and debt sustainability remains a key issue, or they will be successful in aggressive fiscal tightening and that these economies would slow aggressively and the European Central Bank has to keep interest rates low,” he added.
Which would seem to point to the idea that the markets actually believe there are [at least] two alternative scenarios… We’ve certainly heard a lot from the orthodoxy about the ‘debt sustainability’ one, not so much though about the other.
KKE Rally: International Solidarity May 16, 2010
Posted by Garibaldy in Communism, Workers' Party.8 comments
The KKE held a mass rally in Athens yesterday to protest against the measures being implemented by the social democratic PASOK government at the behest of the international bankers and speculators and the institutions of international capital. The rally was addressed by several speakers from parties with whom the KKE has fraternal links. The KKE also received dozens of messages of solidarity from fraternal Communist and Workers’ parties around the world, which were read out at the rally, and extracts of which were published in the KKE’s newspaper Rizospastis, which we can get a flavour of thanks to the magic of google translate. That link also has stories about the march, and the speech of Aleka Papariga, General Secretary of the KKE. Rather than rely on the google translation of part of The WP’s message, here is the original.
Comrades,
The Workers’ Party of Ireland sends fraternal greetings to the KKE, to PAME, and to the working class of Greece in their struggle against the anti-worker and anti-people plans of PASOK, the Greek ruling class, and the organisations of international capital. We extend our solidarity to you in your struggle and applaud your efforts to build an alliance of all class-conscious and progressive forces to oppose the path of capitalism with the socialist economic alternative.
The people of Ireland, also the targets of vicious cuts aimed at making the working class pay for this inevitable capitalist crisis, have seen that PAME and the KKE are leading the resistance of the Greek people. They have, like peoples across the world, seen the message of resistance and of solidarity hung from the Acropolis by the KKE. The working class of Greece is now on the frontline of the international struggle against the exploiters, the speculators, and their puppets.
We in The Workers’ Party of Ireland know that the leadership of the resistance of the Greek working class is in good hands. We know that the KKE and PAME will continue to promote and organise disciplined mass political action in defence of the working class against both the betrayals of the social democrats and the foolishness of those who fail to understand the correct means of revolutionary struggle in the current circumstances. We know that the KKE and PAME will never cease to struggle on all fronts against those who would sacrifice the workers of Greece to the interests of imperialism. The Workers’ Party of Ireland wishes you every success for your national rally in Athens on May 15th, and in your resistance against the capitalists and their political puppets. Your struggles are our struggles. We salute those workers of Greece who have mobilised for today’s march, and we join you in saying
“Peoples of Europe, Rise Up! Workers of All Countries, Unite!”
Sunday Independent Stupid Statement of the Week May 16, 2010
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What is the world coming to? A few bits and pieces to annoy this week, but to be honest, I failed to spot anything so stupid that it is worthy of highlighting. Essentially, all this week’s writing from our favourite right-wing commentators were too banal to discuss much, especially now that a decision has obviously been taken to lay off the unions. John Drennan came close for hyperbole, as did Shane Ross and Dan O’Brien for their reactions to the idea of the EU setting the agenda for individual states’ budgets, but basically the whole right-wing commentariat needs to raise its game if it is not just to bore us.
PEOPLE’S MOVEMENT / GLUAISEACHT AN PHOBAIL: A DISHONEST DEBATE AMONG DISCREDITED POLITICAL PARTIES May 15, 2010
Posted by guestposter in Economy, European Politics, Irish Politics, Uncategorized.4 comments
PEOPLE’S MOVEMENT / GLUAISEACHT AN PHOBAIL
15th May 2010
PRESS RELEASE:
A DISHONEST DEBATE AMONG
DISCREDITED POLITICAL PARTIES
Perhaps one of the more frightening aspects of the recent spat between Fine Gael and the Government over the implications of the proposals contained in the EU Commission document on economic policy co-ordination within the euro zone is the abysmal ignorance on both sides of the argument over what the country signed up to under the Lisbon Treaty.
The Minister for Finance and the Minister for Foreign Affairs both claimed that there was a Protocol attached to the Lisbon Treaty that protected the Irish taxation regime particularly in relation to corporation tax.
The Fine Gael Finance spokesperson seemed unsure about what he and his party had helped to foist on the people of the Republic less than a year ago and seemed to go on the defensive almost immediately when challenged.
No such Protocol exists.
Instead in the run-u to the second Lisbon Referendum, the EU Heads of State went through an elaborate charade to pretend that they were addressing the concerns that had led to the rejection of Lisbon Treaty in the first referendum and came up with a series of “guarantees” ‘to address these concerns in conformity with that treaty’ (i.e. the Lisbon Treaty)
So not a single comma in the Lisbon Treaty was changed. This would have been the case if the Government had secured a Protocol.
So in relation to taxation, the EU Court has the power to order the harmonisation of national indirect taxes if it judges that these cause “a distortion of competition” (Article 113 TFEU, Protocol 27 on the Internal Market and Competition)
In addition, all the evidence points to the fact that tax harmonisation has not gone off the EU Commission’s agenda and that it will emerge as an issue in the very near future.
In the meantime, this country’s political elite seem unaware of the broader reality that monetary union has imposed fiscal rigidity, removed monetary independence and forced economic adjustment through the labour market. It is now time to think the unthinkable in relation to the Euro.
Thanks to the People’s Movement for forwarding this…
This weekend I’ll be mostly listening to… The Adolescents May 15, 2010
Posted by WorldbyStorm in Culture, This Weekend I'll Mostly Be Listening to..., Uncategorized.add a comment
Here’s a band that sort of sum up the US hardcore scene of the early 1980s. That brief shining moment, perhaps best captured in text by Mark Spitz in We Got the Neutron Bomb : The Untold Story of L.A. Punk, a scabrous yet affectionate account of the west coast scene, where punk distorted into… what?
Hundreds, perhaps thousands of bands who largely sounded the same, inflecting punk, or as it became, hardcore, with more metal, more speed, more anger. And then as they matured, those that survived, experimenting.
It didn’t couldn’t last, at least not for most. And I guess one can posit that they ushered the way for Poison Idea et al. But by then… well, it had all changed.
So, what of the Adolescents? Second wave punk almost-supergroup consisting of exiles from peers Agent Orange and Social Distortion. Out immediately with classic single Amoeba in 1980/81 and followed rapidly with their debut album. An album which to me is as good track for track as the UK side of the equation from 76/77. Tony Cadena vocals had that authentic teenage howl of rage… the guitars speedy, drums likewise and some nicely defined bass (and thankfully they generally eschewing Dead Kennedy’s melodramatic take on punk). Unfortunately guitarist Rikk Agnew departed for a solo career and then a stint with Christian Death. There were reformations, under their own name and then the ADZ name, and so it has gone. They’re in the process of recording an album, or perhaps it’s been released, and in interview, Steve Soto – guitarist, responded to the query whether a band called the Adolescents should really be playing when they’re now in their 40s…
“Whenever anyone says that, I say, ‘Do you think the Circle Jerks sit around and jerk each other off?’
Erm… well… when he puts it that way.
As it happens I first heard them in the early 1990s when I started listening to a lot of hardcore, and even now they stand out from the pack, so to speak.
Snotty, obnoxious, lyrically profoundly dubious – albeit of their age and time. Brilliant in a word. Adolescence ain’t what it used to be. That’s for sure.
Enjoy.
Kids of the Black Hole
Amoeba
Creatures
Who is Who
No Way
Live Fullerton 1982 – yep, they were more or less adolescents…
And while I can’t seem to find the track on Youtube here are the lyrics to Democracy… Make yer think – eh?
DEMOCRACY
Is this what you call democracy?
They’re killing us, and you’re killing me
Now I know better, now I can see
That I don’t wanna be in democracyNow is the time for us to strike
Do we know what we’re doing? Have we set things right?They’re leading us into World War Three
And this what you call democracy
It’s a cry for no government, a cry to be free
And I don’t see freedom in democracyDemocrat, Republican, or Libertarian
Do you really care what party you’re in?Did you really think you could make it big
Living amoung these nuclear pigs
If you didn’t know you’ll never see
We’re too far gone for democracyLook whats it’s done to you and me…
Democracy is not for me…
They’ve got… a Silver Machine May 14, 2010
Posted by WorldbyStorm in Culture, Uncategorized.15 comments
Passing the time, given that I’ve been a bit indisposed recently, what should I stumble across but the following… Enjoy, where you can…
Hawkwind Silver Machine – the original of the species as it were…and still brilliant.
James Last – well, that was a surprise.
Motorhead – sort of muscular, even metallic, natch! I like it.
Hawkwind – Choose Your Masques Version, early 1980s commemorative version. Or so they said.
The Church from A Box of Birds – I like this one too.
The Sex Pistols 2008 – ah yes. Even back in the day this was a firm favourite on the Pistols set list.
Alien Sex Fiend – well… the redoubtable Mr. Fiend produces an interesting version.
Jarvis Cocker – and why not?


