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Sunday Independent Stupid Statement of the Week October 30, 2011

Posted by Garibaldy in Sunday Independent Stupid Statement of the Week.
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Brendan O’Connor is talking this week about the possibility of EU fiscal union and devaluation. He offers us this, now that Greek devaluation has made Ireland more central.

Fortunately, assistance will not be the much-vaunted cash handouts available to uncompetitive regions of nation states. Experience shows that, while these treat the symptoms, they make the disease more malignant.

I’ve no idea what he’s on about. I suspect he doesn’t either, apart from the fact that Ireland must lead the way by cutting costs and increasing efficiency. Haven’t we been doing that with “success” since the crisis started?

Conor McCabe has exposed, in his book and in LookLeft, the fallacy of the idea of a property-owning gene in Irish society. It seems we have a replacement, according to successful internet entrepreneur Ray Nolan.

Irish people are genetically pre-disposed to be in tech. Our small economy necessitates that we are pleasant, pragmatic, copped-on problem-solvers. It’s in our genes.

One of the most endearing/crazier things about the Sindo is its unshaking belief that it is inconoclastic. Brendan O’Connor demonstrates this stupidly perfectly.

There was a certain class, of the Dublin anti-establishment political establishment, who were furious about Gallagher. These people are the new Official Ireland. They are centred around politics and media; they worship Michael D and Michael Moore. They like the Leviathan political cabaret and the talking tents at festivals; they buy all those books about what happened at Anglo, about Bertie and the downfall of the country. This crowd was always appalled by Gallagher. They were appalled by his connections to Fianna Fail, yes, and they were appalled by certain complicated aspects of his business (show me the businessman without a complexity here and there). But mainly this crowd was appalled because Gallagher happened without its permission. It was a rural thing. They didn’t understand it, they didn’t predict it and they didn’t like it. They didn’t like this gauche culchie and his new wife.

Yep, there is a sinister cabal running the country, the real establishment, which just appears powerless, and economic, social and political power in the Republic just appears to be in the hands of speculators and bankers. I await David Icke’s new Sindo column with interest.

Carol Hunt has shown signs during the crisis of realising the faults of neo-liberalism. However, today, it seems those effects have worn off.

We don’t have a Bernie Madoff in Ireland. Some of us may point to any number of bankers, auditors, regulators, government ministers, and accuse them — perhaps rightfully in many cases — of gross dereliction of duty, but that is about it. Our crisis was not caused by criminal behaviour.

Or at least none that we have discovered so far. And we’ve found out a lot. Our crisis, in the main, was caused by incompetence.

I’d have thought lying to the government about your debts was one example of criminal behaviour, and there are many others. But we know that the crisis was not caused by incompetence, but by the nature of the system itself. Anyone who can’t see that is being wilfully blind. Then again, this is the Sindo.

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1. irishelectionliterature - October 30, 2011

Eamon Delaney is writing another total batch of hateful crap this week
“Loud and proud gays want to take over rest of society” …
Increasingly, it seems as if the homosexual community has forgotten that it is the minority…

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/loud-and-proud-gays-want-to-take-over-rest-of-society-2920975.html

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Garibaldy - October 30, 2011

Missed that IELB. Thanks for that.

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sonofstan - October 31, 2011

Some of Eamonn’s best friends are gay, he says. No anymore, I’ll bet……

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irishelectionliterature - November 1, 2011

Delaney really is one of the worst , attempting to be a poor mans Myers.
He was on Dunphys radio show on Newstalk a few times and was thoroughly objectionable there too.

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2. Niall - October 30, 2011

I would suggest that Carol’s claim that there was no criminal behaviour might be down to a distinction between non-compliance and criminality. Non-compliance is just one of those things that we overlook due to the complexities of business.

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RosencrantzisDead - October 30, 2011

The difference between us and the Yanks is that we have, so far, no findings of criminal behaviour. There are more than a few investigations going on at the moment. Carol Hunt seems to miss that point; absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

In any event, too much focus on the criminal side would take away from the fact that this crisis is systemic in nature and is in large part to the daft industrial policy successive governments have followed over the past forty years. Only an idiot would fail to see this; of course, we have always had a surfeit of idiots in this country…

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3. NollaigO - October 30, 2011
Starkadder - October 30, 2011

Harris boasts:

“I am proud to write for this paper”.

To which some online wit retorts:

“You should be grateful as well. I doubt any other paper would have you. ”

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/eoghan-harris/eoghan-harris-rte-news-downplays-sf-debacle-are-we-surprised-2921073.html

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4. CL - October 30, 2011

What is criminal and what is not is determined by who owns the government. As Adam Smith pointed out more than 200 years ago the purpose of government is to protect the rich against the poor. And there is the famous statement of the Communist Manifesto about the state being merely the committee to manage the affairs of the bourgeoisie.
During the past few weeks thousands have been arrested protesting the depredations of parasitical transnational finance capital. The predators are not regarded as criminals,only those who protest against them.
“Buffeted by strong winds, protesters hunkered down in snow-covered tents in Zuccotti Park in Lower Manhattan, where the Occupy Wall Street movement against economic inequality first set up camp six weeks ago, sparking dozens of similar occupations in city parks across the United States.

A day after New York authorities confiscated their generators, hundreds of protesters struggled to stay warm and dry after more than an inch (2.5 cm) of snow fell in the city with temperatures forecast to drop to freezing overnight.

“We knew this would be tough. We didn’t start this as a sort of summer of love, it’s the winter of discontent,” said Alan Collinge, 41, from Seattle, poking his head out a tent.”

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/30/usa-wallstreet-protests-idUSN1E79S0B720111030

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5. Alan (@AlanRouge) - October 30, 2011

Carol had a good piece a few months ago but she appears to have been infected with whatever is in the SINDO’s water supply.

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6. Shay Brennan - October 30, 2011

O’Connor: ‘There was a certain class, of the Dublin anti-establishment political establishment, who were furious about Gallagher. These people are the new Official Ireland. They are centred around politics and media; they worship Michael D and Michael Moore. They like the Leviathan political cabaret and the talking tents at festivals’

From Sean Gallagher website;
‘Seán will be attending the Leviathan Tent, where he will be taking part in a light hearted newspaper review and chat show, hosted by the Late Late Show house band front man, Paddy Cullivan at 1pm. The guests will be asked to pick their favourite stories from the Sunday papers.’

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Garibaldy - October 30, 2011

Brilliant spot Shay. Love it.

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7. Trevor Bissett - October 30, 2011

thanks for reading the sindo so i don’t have to.

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8. Niall - October 31, 2011

“There was a certain class, of the Dublin anti-establishment political establishment, who were furious about Gallagher. These people are the new Official Ireland. They are centred around politics and media; they worship Michael D and Michael Moore. They like the Leviathan political cabaret and the talking tents at festivals; they buy all those books about what happened at Anglo, about Bertie and the downfall of the country.”

Official Ireland does not include:

Pat Kenny – Given the treatment of Gallagher during some reports on Pat’s show, he certainly doesn’t meet the description
Gay Byrne – Considered running for Fianna Fail
Ryan Tubridy – strong links to FF and PDs
Miriam O’Callaghan/Steven Carson – brother was an FF candidate
George Hook – FG supporter
Ivan Yates – former FG TD
Tom Savage/Anton Savage/Terry Prone – More FF links than you can list
George Lee – FG TD
Brendan O’Connor – strong supporter of FF and Bertie Ahern
Eoghan Harris – strong supporter of FF and Bertie Ahern
Marc Coleman (he who writes his own wiki page) – member of FG or at least Young Fine Gael
Fionnan Sheehan – wife was a FF candidate
Shane Coleman – brother in law of Dermot Ahern
Celia Larkin – former partner of Bertie Ahern
Willie O’Dea – FF TD
Aengus Fanning – supporter of Bertie Ahern
Katryn Thomas – FG supporter
Marian Finucane – PD
Sarah Carey – FG links through family
Niamh Brenann – wife of Michael McDowell
Kevin Myers – self evident

So who does Official Ireland include?

Vincent Browne, Gene Kerrigan & Fintan O’Toole?

It certainly doesn’t include the contributers from the likes of the ESRI, PR firms and celebrity economists that fill airtime on panel shows.

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9. Starkadder - October 31, 2011

Slightly off topic, but does anyone remember what the Sindo
was like before Aengus Fanning took it over? While it was
never left-wing, it didn’t seem to be as embarassing OTT
when Michael Hand etc. were in charge.

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WorldbyStorm - November 1, 2011

A very good question. It certainly wasn’t as baroque in its political coverage. I seem to recall it was a bit lightweight but that might just be my intrinsic bias coming out. True fact… Many many years ago it ran an updated version of Flash Gordon as a cartoon. These things mattered to the then ten year old me, much as the Herald or was it press ran Modesty Blaise and Mandrake th Magician.

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LeftAtTheCross - November 1, 2011

Mandrake was in the Herald alright.

I preferred Hagar the Horrible though myself.

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Joe - November 1, 2011

me too.
Picture one: Man asking man at front of longboat – “Which one’s Lucky Eddie?”.
Picture two: Longboat with 12 rowers. Rain cloud pissing down on Lucky Eddie.

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10. Niall - November 1, 2011

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