Sunday Independent Stupid Statement of the Week December 18, 2011
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No need to worry about what to get friends and relatives for Christmas, Roisin Burke has that covered for us. We’ll start not with the stupid statements, but with one (from an entirely predictable source) that is plain and simple an attack on the Irish democracy of which the Sindo purports to be the chief defender.
In some countries, plebiscites are the very elixir of constitutional health. But in Ireland, too many of our referendums have been sordid and confused affairs where weak governments have asked the ignorant to decide the unknowable using the incomprehensible.
Weak governments; an ignorant population; politics being too complicated for ordinary people who should leave it to the people who can actually understand it. I wonder where that sort of logic can lead.
Meanwhile, John Drennan has picked what for him is the emblematic feature of Celtic Tiger madness. Not corrupt politicians, not uninhibited speculation, not even the evil trade unions. The worst aspect has, apparently, been the tribunals.
Should we ever get around to deciding to choose a folly to best epitomise the excess of the Celtic Tiger era (indeed Enda might even have a referendum on it) we need not look to the deserted shell of Anglo’s proposed HQ, or the Docklands glass-bottle site or the wild and free piebald horses grazing in undisturbed bliss on the derelict site of the Bertie Bowl.
Nothing, you see, captures the essence of how our poor State was run over the last few years more than this self-important, ineffectual, gargantuan, gestating, fiscal hydra which may, even when it finally delivers do more harm than good.
So the emblem is the tribunals and not the problems created by the economic-political elite that caused them in the first place. Note too the sideswipe at the possibility of a referendum.
When it comes to a referendum, John Crown is spectacularly off-message, defying his stupid colleagues with a call for a referendum. And making me laugh while he was at it (although his proposals for political reform are less funny).
We do have a historical precedent for the parliamentary transfer of sovereignty. It was rather hard to get it back. Let us decide this time.
Meanwhile, back at the stupidity, Brendan O’Connor reveals the real reason that the EU wants the Republic to be part of it.
You see, the Europeans want us in. Whatever about us being slightly troublesome financially at the moment, symbolically, they like us in there because they feel we represent the great English-speaking liberal democracy kind of tradition.
Sure.
I enjoy a bit of overheated rhetoric as much as the next person. But really, the little Englander mentality that has been displayed by the Sindo since Germany became still more the mistress of us all is beginning to get beyond a joke. Step forward James Fitzsimons
Bowing to the superiority of its EU paymasters, Ireland has been relegated to the status of little more than a concentration camp.
As long as the people in the concentration camp don’t get a referendum, we might speculate that some of his colleagues wouldn’t mind all that much if that were true.

This from Irish Central could be added to your list for this week.
http://bit.ly/uq15Ua
Badly phrased. What I meant is that Irish Central has gone through one of the Sun Ind’s articles for the week and brought a bit of local knowledge to bear on an article about costs and banquet halls in NYC.
The Sindo don’t need no steeenking facts.
I can only be very impressed with a “historian”, God bless the mark, who thinks that Brecht’s quote had anything to do with either Hitler or plebiscites.
Cutting Paddy. But entirely true.
Brecht wrote his poem after the East German worker uprising in June 1953.
“After the uprising of the 17th of June
The Secretary of the Writers Union
Had leaflets distributed in the Stalinallee
Stating that the people
Had forfeited the confidence of the government
And could win it back only
By redoubled efforts. Would it not be easier
In that case for the government
To dissolve the people
And elect another? “
Appalling again from JP McCarthy. Not even an employed historian (got into trouble with Oxford for saying he was) and only at the SINDO because he is college friend of Eoghan Harris’s wife. Still nice money if you can get it. Pity it’s always riddled with mistakes. Still waiting for that book John Paul!
Ireland has been relegated to the status of little more than a concentration camp.
The ‘little more’ is such a nice touch.
What would you need to have instead of a brain to be able to write something so stupid and offensive?
Marc Coleman on the household charge: “The We the Citizens group (it is run by state-employed academics) held a public meeting at which, it says, citizens were highly supportive of the charge after having been “educated” by speakers from think-tank TASC and employers’ group IBEC.”
http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/get-government-house-in-order-before-any-new-levy-2966919.html
Surely this is inaccurate; TASC has proposed a property tax based on the value of the property, not a fixed charge regardless of property value and owner’s income.
Surely this is inaccurate; TASC has proposed a property tax based on the value of the property, not a fixed charge regardless of property value and owner’s income.
What exactly is the point of a property tax that is based on the owners income?
Why not just call a spade a spade, and tax that income directly?
The whole point of a property tax is hit people with a comfortable lifestyle who get away without paying much income tax under the current system.
For example someone on a decent pension, with their tax-free lump sum salted away in a sterling account, nothing in the way of debt and little in the way of expenses. Under the TASC scheme, they would continue to be molly-coddled by the state, with usual hand-wavy equality-proofed BS offered as justification.
Similarly anyone with the ability to hide or manipulate income, whether they be barrister or plumber, grind-giving teacher or cash-in-hand plaster, would be laughing under any scheme of waivers based on official income.
‘What exactly is the point of a property tax that is based on the owners income?’
I don’t think TASC is calling for such a tax. They are calling for a tax based on property value. But allowances should be made for low-income property owners.
TASC is certainly not supporting the regressive flat-rate household charge as Marc Coleman suggests.
Interesting resonances between Crown’s piece and this from December 7th about Scotland
http://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/arts-blog/gavin_mccrone_this_time_it_s_us_who_have_to_decide_1_1992076