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An Early Christmas Present from the Sindo December 23, 2012

Posted by Garibaldy in Sunday Independent Stupid Statement of the Week.

A lot of stories on the Sindo website aren’t working today, and therefore to my great regret, this can’t be done today. Merry Christmas to me!

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1. theraggedwagon - December 23, 2012

And Many Happy Returns to me!

2. Northside Socialist - December 23, 2012

This story caught my eye…Noonan, a man with his finger on the pulse of the nation…


Noonan: If they can pay for Sky TV, they can pay my property tax

By DANIEL McCONNELL Chief Reporter
Sunday December 23 2012

Finance Minister Michael Noonan has said the vast majority of Irish people are able to pay the property tax because they can afford up to €1,000 a year for premium television packages such as ‘Sky Sports’.

Mr Noonan was speaking in the Seanad last Thursday afternoon as part of the debate on the property tax, where he dismissed opposition claims that a majority of people won’t have an ability to pay the new tax, which will be on average €316 per house”

WorldbyStorm - December 23, 2012

So many things to consider when parsing that stuff from Noonan out. But it’s such a stupid generalisation by him that it’s almost useless. Some are bundles with internet access as well and so on and so forth. Sub packages are a variety of prices from 300 upwards. He quotes a figure of 82 per cent paying for pay tv – but I’d love to see a detailed breakdown, this may help…as well as pointing to another flaw in his thinking…


Jim Monaghan - December 23, 2012

Surely Noonan realises that circuses are needed to keep the masses absorbed. I suppose he watches “Stricktly come dancing”.
Since teh end of the “Killing” I have little to watch. I suppose I will continue to destroy the world economy by getting my daughter to download.

3. John Cunningham - December 23, 2012

There’s this from the paper’s inter-galactic correspondent:

… The first thing to understand is that the opposite of a Trotskyite is not a Stalinist. The opposite of a Trotskyite is a Leninist.
The tensions between the two traditions,which still survive in the modern Labour Party, are as much psychological as political. They go back to 1918 when Lenin sent Trotsky to Brest Litovsk to make peace with the Germans, to trade territory for time.
Trotksy, trying to have it both ways, did not do so. He came back to make fiery speeches in Moscow with the stupid slogan: Neither Peace Nor War. Lenin sent him back to do it properly…
… James Larkin Jnr also knew something Trots never learn: how to call off a strike. As he did at Independent Newspapers, in the 1970s, with a dignity that left the strikers holding the moral high ground.
Larkin left a large mark on the Labour Party. This explains some of its current tensions. By and large, most of the former Workers’ Party deputies were formed in the Larkinite-Leninist tradition of taking on Trots, taking a stand, and loyalty to a party line.
Conversely, apart from Ruairi Quinn, Emmet Stagg and Roisin Shortall, many of the old Labour Party come from a Trotskyite tradition of wanting it both ways. That is why Colm Keaveney, who wobbled before taking a stand, still strikes me as politically unreliable.
The other Labour wobblers did the opposite – they first struck poses and later trooped through the lobbies, proving they are in line with the Trotskyite tradition of never taking on its own side that goes back to Brest Litvosk. With luck, since nothing annoys the Irish people as much as wobbling, they will lose their seats.
Labour’s wobbling is bad politics. But so is that party’s betrayal of the majority of workers in the private sector. The symbol of that abandonment is the Croke Park Agreement…

From Best-Litovsk to Croke Park, and beyond

WorldbyStorm - December 23, 2012

That’s…just…bizarre. Inter-galactic correspondent indeed. Note by the way the hierarchy of goals… ‘taking on Trots, taking a stand, and loyalty to a party line’.

Jim Monaghan - December 23, 2012

His ex Anne used the term courage to be a Stalinist in much the same way.

Branno's ultra-left t-shirt - December 23, 2012

‘Larkin Jnr disliked Sinn Fein’s economic nationalism as much as its armed nationalism. So he took on the Trots who opposed entry into Europe and TK Whitaker’s plan to end protectionism.’
I thought it was Official Sinn Féin who opposed EEC entry?

4. Jonathan - December 23, 2012

There are hundreds of thousands of people struggling with their mortgages and bills out there, so why, I wonder, does the Sindo concentrate on this one: http://www.independent.ie/national-news/mum-in-search-of-bankruptcy-forced-to-leave-children-3334349.html. Especially seeing as the same journalist wrote an article about the same woman in 2011 (http://www.independent.ie/national-news/mother-of-two-in-plea-for-protection-from-bullying-bank-2660671.html) (and the journalist is, I must assume, the same one who wrote http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/i-signed-my-life-away-for-the-sake-of-city-centre-apartment-2106182.html about how she regrets buying an apartment in 2008 for €525,000…) A web search for Jillian Godsil shows that she has been popping up al over the place airing her woes about selling her mansion, when not writing articles about ‘exporting our problems’ which contains the line “To be a bankrupt often implies the person was an entrepreneur, a doer, a creator of jobs and wealth, not just a PAYE worker or public servant. The person who fails once may yet succeed again.” (http://www.thejournal.ie/readme/column-exporting-our-troubles-is-an-irish-speciality-405928-Apr2012/?r_dir_d=1) That “not just a PAYE worker or public servant” line is just so Sindo, isn’t it?

WorldbyStorm - December 23, 2012

Dismal stuff. It really is. Playing to the gallery.

EWI - December 24, 2012

She’s the same infamous muppet that the IT saw fit to publish an article by, complaining how she could see the plebs moving into neighbouring apartments from the horrifically-overpriced pad that she had saddled herself with?

5. Branno's ultra-left t-shirt - December 23, 2012
6. TheOtherRiverR(h)ine - December 23, 2012



Funny that he thinks FF and SF would go together. I suppose the one good thing about McDowell that it’s very unlikely that he’ll be back in the Dail or involved with a new party, mainly because of his gargantuan ego (yeah I’ve watching Kill Bill). Though it’s really moot, because no new centre right party is going to be formed.

ejh - December 23, 2012

Haven’t people been expecting, at least intermittently, some attempt by McD to become the Father Of His Nation?

TheOtherRiverR(h)ine - December 23, 2012

Maybe if he carved a little free market thatcherite nation out of south east county Dublin perhaps. Only other suggestion is being installed by some agency or group.

I shouldn’t be getting worked up about that political has been, whose only feted by sections of the media. Nevertheless there’s just something about him that makes my blood boil.

ejh - December 23, 2012

Extraordinary sense of superiority?

EWI - December 24, 2012

McDowell allegedly has form for illegitimately turning up in public in military uniform (a reported incident from his UCD days, and his FCÁ uniform).

doctorfive - December 24, 2012

lol, really?

maddurdu - December 24, 2012

Recently footage has emerged of the incident…

eamonncork - December 24, 2012

He overdid it at the PD Party Conference though.

RosencrantzisDead - December 24, 2012

I have always been thankful that our own right-wingers (who might otherwise be poised for some 1930′s style putsch) were granted the charisma of Ian Duncan Smith and the smugness of George Osborne.

7. Third party on the right and straight on ’til… where again did you say? « The Cedar Lounge Revolution - February 7, 2013

[...] down the figures into basic and premium television packages it’s not a useful statistic. As noted here that figure is far from clear – not least because people often pay bundled packages that [...]

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