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Sunday Independent Stupid Statement of the Week November 10, 2013

Posted by Garibaldy in Sunday Independent Stupid Statement of the Week.

Had to do this quickly and early this week, so just drawing people’s attention to this gem from Colm McCarthy, who in no way cheerled for the economic policies and system that got us where we are today.

The second of the Fearsome Threesome, the EU Commission, has failed to impress throughout. Various middle-level EU Commission officials of modest competence have been drifting around Dublin these last few years offering trenchant, half-baked advice to people with better things to do

We have enough locals of no competence doing the same thing, so I suppose their nose is out of joint.

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1. CL - November 10, 2013

Eoghan Harris describes John Redmond as one of the ‘men of peace’-in contrast to Irish republicans.
Brian Hanley has a different view:
“By appealing for support for the British war effort, John Redmond and Edward Carson sent many more Irish men out to die than any Irish republican leader.”

WorldbyStorm - November 10, 2013

It’s shameless stuff really, isn’t it? They just don’t see the wood for the trees.

Séamas Ó Sionnaigh (An Sionnach Fionn) - November 10, 2013

“…fail to make heroes of men of peace, like Daniel O’Connell and John Redmond”

So Daniel O’Connell didn’t have his “mountainside men” and his “faction men” to call upon? How many political opponents of O’Connell and his corrupt offspring were beaten into the ground, run out of parishes or burned out of their homes?

Redmond and the Irish Party had the AOH, a praetorian guard that would have made the Brownshirts proud. And of course from 1914 onwards John Redmond was the leader of an actual paramilitary organisations or does the Irish National Volunteers not count? The same INV that Redmond called out in 1916 – not to fight alongside the Irish revolutionaries but to assist in stamping down the “criminal rebellion” and to restore “law and order”. In parts of Dublin and the Midlands INV men served alongside the British Forces rounding up “the rebels”.

During the 1918 election and beyond the AOH and remnants of the INV on the orders of the leadership of the Irish Party attacked election rallies and debates across the country. During the War of Independence members of the AOH/Irish Party not only fired on Republicans they actually co-operated with the British military and terror factions in Belfast.

Men of peace??

2. Johnny Forty Coats - November 10, 2013

Far be it from me to say a good word for the Sunday Independent, but I couldn’t agree that Colm McCarthy’s statement is stupid. Black pots are perfectly entitled to call black kettles black.

3. 6to5against - November 10, 2013

I’m not sure if its stupid or not, but this would surely qualify as vacuous-pile-of-inarticulate-rubbish of the day:


It says something about introducing entrepeneurship into schools, I think, but beyond that I can’t quite find my way through the astonishingly dense, cliche-ridden, verbiage.

I suspect, however, that if I knew what they were saying, I would disagree with it.

4. Jonathan R - November 11, 2013

Not the Sindo, I know, but it’s nice to see John McManus in the IT berating the government for not using the Troika’s presence to ‘reform’ social welfare: “It also serves to divert attention from the fact that, after the best opportunity in a generation to push though reforms, the health service remains in chaos, social welfare continues to disincentivise work; professional fees remain stupidly high; the banks don’t work and hundreds of thousands continue to struggle with debts that they can’t pay. The real story of the end of the bailout is not the contingent credit line; the story is how a good crisis appears to have been wasted.” An embittered old leftie like me would say that a lack of jobs is what disincentivises people on the dole, and I could drag out the same old facts about high social welfare rates not acting as a disincentive during the boom, but why bother?

6to5against - November 11, 2013

Why bother indeed, there are none so deaf as those who just won’t listen.

WorldbyStorm - November 17, 2013

+1 Jonathan R.

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