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The Left Archive: ‘The Role of the IRA, 1962-1967’ by Liam McMillen, Official Sinn Féin… October 13, 2008

Posted by guestposter in Irish History, Irish Politics, Official Sinn Féin, Sinn Féin.

A very welcome guest post for the Archive today from Brian Hanley of Queens University, Belfast. The IRA, 1926 – 1936 is perhaps his best known work amongst a general readership, but for those of us here his forthcoming book co-authored with Scott Millar, on the Official IRA and the Workers’ Party will be of particular interest.

above lecture was delivered by Liam (Billy) McMillen in Dublin during June 1972 at a series of lectures organised by (Official) Sinn Fein to commemorate the birth of Wolfe Tone. As ever the context is important. In 1972 Liam McMillen was one of the best known republicans in Northern Ireland, having been involved in the IRA in Belfast since the early 1950s. From Ton Street, in what is usually called the Lower Falls, his family had been involved in the republican movement since the 1920s. McMillen was first jailed in 1953. For a period during the late 1950s he joined the breakaway Saor Uladh organisation, before returning to the IRA. He was imprisoned again during the IRA’s Border Campaign and on release in 1961 emigrated to England where he worked as a scaffolder. Known as the ‘wee man’ McMillen was a fluent Irish speaker and active in language circles in Belfast. In 1963 he became officer commanding the IRA in that city; after the split in 1969 he was O/C of the Belfast Official IRA and a member of that organisation’s Army Council. When this speech was delivered the Official IRA had just declared a conditional ceasefire, and the North was entering into a period of uncertainity with rumours of a Provisional IRA ceasefire on one hand and increasing sectarian violence on the other. By the time the speech was published in 1975 it would be as part of a tribute to McMillen (Liam MacMaolain: Separatist, Socialist, Republican by D. O’Hagan, 1975), the 48 year old Official IRA leader having been shot dead on April 28th 1975 by the organisation that would become the INLA.

The lecture itself is a brief account of republican politics in the North, particuarly in Belfast from 1962 to the outbreak of the Troubles in 1969. It is a significant document, often overlooked in histories of the IRA and the politics in the 1960s more generally. It certainly provides a different interpretation of many of the well known events of that period and throws new light on some aspects of republican strategy. It begins by describing the aftermath of the Border Campaign and the task the IRA faced in re-building and the realisation, for some at least, that ‘physical force alone had failed.’ McMillen suggests that the early 1960s saw the ‘final surrender by Fianna Fail of the national ideal’ the moves by Sean Lemass to recognise Northern Ireland part of a trend towards telling nationalists to accept partition and ‘settle down to become happy little Britishers.’ That Fianna Fail under Lemass was dragging the South into greater reliance on British imperialism was a central argument for 1960s republicans.

Describing the weakness of the Belfast IRA he nevertheless asserts that their role in ‘upsetting Britain’s plans for Ireland’ would be an important one. McMillen claims that the nationwide commemorations of Wolfe Tone’s birth were the beginning of a re-organisation. He recounts the story of the controversey surrounding the refusal of the then Belfast IRA commander Billy McKee to break an RUC ban on the tricolour at the Wolfe Tone event; in the aftermath of this dispute McKee resigned and was replaced by McMillen. (Bad feeling about this incident simmered and became acute when McKee emerged in late 1969 as a founder of the Provisional IRA in the city). McMillen argues that the ‘tri-colour was to play a central role in the future developments in Belfast, especially in re-awakening the dormont nationalism that slumbered in the hearts of the people.’

In October 1964 McMillen stood as a republican candidate in the Westminister election. As he explains ‘the task of contesting the election fell on the local units of the IRA.’ McMillen recieved 3,256 votes, the best of four republican candidates in the city. He suggests that this proved that ‘abstentionism was dead, and that it was time to bury the corpse.’ (Whether or not he actually thought this in 1964 is hard to say; though the IRA discussed and rejected abandoning abstentionism in 1965.) But the election was notable for the violence which followed the police seizure of a tricoulor from McMillen’s election HQ in Divis Street. Ian Paisley had held several provocative rallies in this period and threatened to march on Divis Street to remove the flag himself if the police did not act. After the RUC smashed their way into the republican HQ there followed was several days of rioting, with the unveiling of new tricolours and the singing of ‘the National Anthem with a solemnity and fervour’ that McMillen claimed never to have witnessed ‘before or since.’ McMillen claims that the events ‘embittered the nationalist population against the Stormont regime (and) set the stage for future confrontations between the youth of the nationalist areas and the RUC.’ The IRA also gained a ‘couple of dozen’ new recruits. For McMillen the events proved that ‘the embers of patriotism still smouldered among the people’ and that ‘a good strong republican breeze was all that was required to fan those embers into flames.’

As for the IRA itself McMillen notes that ‘the routine work of organising a physical force movement continued’ and ‘men were still being recruited, organised into sections, companies and units, and were being trained in the use of arms and explosives.’ McMillen had argued elsewhere that the revolution would have ‘three phases…political agitation, economic resistance and physical force.’ (United Irishman, December 1970). At Easter 1965 in Belfast Sinn Fein president and leading IRA figure Tomas Mac Giolla spoke of the importance of confronting discrimination in the local government franchise. McMillen notes the attempts by the Belfast IRA to establish ‘one-man, one-vote’ committees that year, but that campaign was stillborn, partly according to McMillan because of the ‘intransigence’ of the Northern Ireland Labour Party. However he notes that this effort was in many ways the ‘forerunner’ of the Civil Rights Association. In late 1965 an IRA unit disrupted the showing of British Army recruitment film in a Catholic school in Belfast, (an event McMillen mistakenly dates as happening in 1966). Several Belfast IRA members, including 18-year-old Joe McCann were also jailed that year.

The buildup to the Easter 1966 Anniversary celebrations and the importance the IRA placed on them is also related by McMillen; ‘the whole resources and energy of the Belfast movement were devoted’ to organising the commemorations. They were seen as an opportunity to flout Stormont’s ban on republican symbols. Certainly anyone who believes that militant republicanism was utterly marginal prior to 1969 should look at contemporary coverage of the 1966 commemorations in the North and the large numbers attracted to the Easter events. McMillen mentions two members of the Belfast IRA staff being jailed at this time; he was one of them. This was ‘a small price to pay’ he suggests for the ‘vast return of national fervour’ that accompanied the celebrations. But ominously sectarian tension was also present with clashes when Ian Paisley (again) led a march through the Market area of Belfast in June. McMillen recounts how the local IRA intervened during these riots. He also notes how the newly formed Ulster Volunteer Force had targeted IRA members prior to their killing of Catholic Peter Ward (Contemporary republican sources claim that the UVF had assistance from the RUC Special Branch.)

McMillen was a member of the first executive of the Northern Ireland Civil Rights Association (NICRA) when it was formed in 1967 and helped draw up its constitution. He notes that though the initial meeting was ‘attended in strength’ by members of the Republican movement it was decided not to pack the committee but ensure it was broadly based. (It is worth noting that the presence of the commander of the Belfast IRA on the civil rights executive would hardly have reassured Unionists or the RUC about the organisation’s ‘reformist’ nature). After some months McMillen quietly stepped down and was replaced by Kevin Agnew, a republican from Co. Derry (who would later support the Provisionals). Outside of NICRA activity there were now five Republican Clubs in Belfast though McMillen claims that activists in the city ‘dragged their feet’ in terms of social agitation. He may be slightly exaggerating here. It was only really in Dublin and Derry that the republican movement had prioritized housing agitation during 1967 and Belfast was as active in many ways by 1968 as Cork or other areas. McMillen also notes the IRA’s bomb attacks on British Army recruitment offices in Belfast and Lisburn as part of their ‘happy blend of political agitation and military activity.’ These occurred after the setting up of NICRA (in May 1967 and January 1968) and demonstrate that republican engagement in civil rights did not see the end of armed activity in the North.

McMillen then turns to the republican policy of pushing NICRA to take to the streets, arguing for a march in Belfast during 1968. He does not mention the events in Dungannon which led to the decision to march there but notes that the ‘bulk’ of the Northern IRA were present on August 24th 1968. (In fact of course many were stewards). McMillen perhaps surprisingly describes the march as a ‘disappointing anti-climax.’ He does not recount how the day saw militant speeches from among others Austin Currie and Gerry Fitt who described the RUC as ‘black bastards.’ (While much of the recent coverage has emphasized the influence of the American Civil Rights movement it is worth noting that the marchers in Dungannon sang ‘A Nation Once Again’ as well as ‘We Shall Overcome’ when confronted by RUC lines.)

McMillen then notes the importance of Derry on the 5th of October. Most interestingly he recounts how the IRA had met to discuss their tactics on the day. Again perhaps surprisingly he argues that had the RUC not stopped the march then ‘the CRA would have died a quiet and natural death.’ Instead ‘the events of that day led directly to the dramatic developments’ of 1972. He points to two factors that inspired the RUC’s actions; they had received information that the IRA planned to cause ‘havoc’ in Derry and hence reacted ‘violently to the first gentle nudge’ and secondly that Belfast republicans ‘had been instructed, in the event of the parade being halted by police cordons, to push leading Nationalist politicians into the police ranks. This they did to such effect that one became the first casualty…receiving a busted head from a peeler’s baton.’ (Little sympathy there it seems for Gerry Fitt). McMillen describes how ‘the television coverage of the RUC brutality that day exposed the fascist nature of the Orange/Unionist domination and its ruthless denial of elementary democratic rights to a large section of the citizenry.’ McMillen’s use of the term ‘fascist’ might surprise some, though perhaps it is an indication of how little reform republicans really expected from Stormont. After October 5th the movement mushroomed and McMillen is positive about how it developed; ‘it exposed in a manner which no other movement could have done the blatant injustices of the Special Powers Act, gerrymandering and discrimiation.’ McMillen also claims that the Civil Rights movement raised demands on behalf of the ‘poorest class of Protestants.’ (In fact there is little evidence that NICRA devoted much attention to working class Protestants in its 1968-69 heyday. There were rancourous debates within the Civil Rights movement on whether class demands should be raised to attract working class Protestant support. In general republicans argued against raising these demands for fear of splitting the movement; ‘Republicans must be the foremost advocates of unity in the Civil Rights Movement. They must strongly oppose those who call for a split in the Civil Rights Movement in the spurious belief that in this way that working class Catholics and Protestants will get together for ‘socialist’ and ‘non-sectarian’ demands.’ United Irishman, June 1969). During the winter of 1968 there were several more Civil Rights marches in Derry and one in Armagh (republicans such as Johnnie White in Derry and Denis Cassin were prominent stewards at these events). McMillen briefly mentions the second Derry march. An ominous development in both cities were sectarian clashes after these events.

Then comes January 1969 and Burntollet. McMillen makes no comment on the march, which for some commentators has become a piviotal event. Republican opinion on the march and indeed on the Peoples Democracy organisation itself was divided. Republicans took part in the Belfast to Derry march and provided shelter and food to the marchers. (The United Irishman’s criticism of PD was that they were not sufficently anti-partitionist, not that they were ultra-left). McMillen does not mention the serious rioting in Derry in the march’s wake nor the rioting in Newry a week later when Belfast republicans were again prominent in the disturbances. However he does explain how in April after more rioting in Derry the Belfast IRA burned down 10 post offices in the city to stretch RUC resources. There was also a republican organised march on the Falls Road that ended in large-scale rioting. (The IRA did not claim the fire-bombings at the time, though IRA leader Cathal Goulding publicly warned that ‘if our people in the six counties are oppressed and beaten up…then the IRA will have no alternative but to take military action against the police force [we] have no alternative but to protect our people or allow them to be slaughtered and we are not going to allow them to be slaughtered’ Irish Times, 22 April 1969).

McMillen then notes the various political endeavours of the movement in Belfast, while also estimating IRA membership and arms in the city. Here he praises Joe McCann as one of those who understood the need for both political and miltary activity. (When McMillen gave this lecture McCann was dead, killed by British troops in April 1972). By 1969 the Belfast Housing Action Committee had organised several protests and was squatting homeless families in Divis Towers. McMillen mentions the attempts by republicans to make contact with housing protesters on the Shankhill Road. He then explains that by the summer of 1969 there was increasing pressure on the IRA to respond with weapons to clashes between nationalists and the RUC. Finally he describes the events after the Apprentice Boys march in Derry on August 12th.

Here McMillen, perhaps deliberately, confuses the dates. It was on August 13th that republicans organised demonstrations to tie up RUC resources in Belfast. These led to riots on the Falls Road and it was later that evening that the IRA opened fire on the RUC in Leeson Street. This was one of a number of armed actions carried out under McMillen’s orders on August 13-14th. It was the following day, August 14th that the fighting in west Belfast took on an inter-communal nature. Again McMillen does not go into any detail about the IRA’s role in this, though he asserted in 1970 that ‘the meagre armaments in the hands of the Belfast units were put to their most effective use and, it can be safely said, prevented even more widespread death and destruction’ (United Irishman, December 1970). McMillen himself was arrested on the morning of the 15th in a house off the Falls along with Malachy McGurran (a leading IRA member from Lurgan) and Frank Cards (Proinsias MacAirt, a Belfast IRA member). Interestingly, he asserts, in contrast to much commentary, that during the fighting ‘the people turned to the IRA for leadership and defence’ and that after August the movement ‘enjoyed a popularity among the people it had never experienced before.’ Though centrally involved in the republican split in Belfast McMillen leaves discussion of the formation of the Provisionals to ‘another lecture.’

McMillen’s account is notable for the emphasis it places on reviving nationalist feeling among Belfast Catholics, and for its openness about the role of the IRA in both the Civil Rights movement and in Belfast during 1969. It is particularly important given that recent commentary on the Civil Rights movement has downplayed or ignored altogether republican involvement. It also contrasts very strongly with later claims about republican policy during that period by both historians and some of McMillen’s comrades. There were clearly contradictory influences at work in 1960s republicanism. It was not only the ‘ultra-left’ in the Civil Rights movement who desired confrontation, nor was it only republican ‘traditionalists’ who were interested in armed action. Republicans were in favour of non-violent tactics on occasion but they had not abandoned violence as a strategy; they were after all revolutionaries, commited to the overthrow of both the Northern and Southern states. Cathal Goulding stated publicly in February 1969 that ‘if the civil rights movement fails there will be no answer other than the answer we have always preached. Everyone will realize it and all constitutional methods will go overboard’ (Irish Times, 7 February 1969). I think it is fair to say that in 1969 at least McMillen would have agreed with those sentiments.

Brian Hanley.


1. The Securocat - October 13, 2008

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2. Seán Ó Tuama - October 13, 2008

Great stuff.McMillan’s line,however, was to change. My recollection is that he strongly supported Costello’s line at the 1972 OSF Ardfheis, as did much of the Nortern leadership, but changed his position the following year. I hope that Brian will cover the 1972 Ardfheis debate in his book as for me it was one of the most fascinating political debates I can ever remember.

The document is interesting at a whole number of levels. It shows the contradiction within the Northern leadership between a theoretical adherence to a rigid three stages theory: first Civil Rights, then National Reunification, then Socialism and the understanding by many of them that in practice the nature of the Northern state was such that its reaction and that of Loyalism in general to any demand for Civil Rights, however peacefully expressed, was going to be so violent that the struggle was soon going to go beyond purely Civil Rights demands.

On another level I think it bears out that that the point I made earlier to Garabaldy that in practice there was not much difference at ground level in Derry between ‘ultra-left’ and Republican activists in 68-9 seems to be also true in the North generally.

I am looking forward to the rest of this discussion and indeed to reading Brian’s new book. His previous book on the IRA in 1926-36 was great in its treatment of Republican documenary sources.


3. Jim Monaghan - October 13, 2008

I was at the meeting in question. There is a sympathatic obit for McMillan by Gerry Foley in Intercontinental Press. Oh by the way see below
A public meeting entitled “1968-2008, Civil Rights, Then and Now” will be held in Liberty Hall on Thursday, 16th October at 7.45pm. Organised by the Civil Rights Commemoration Committee, the meeting will mark the 40th anniversary of the Civil Rights movement in Northern Ireland and look at the Civil and Human Rights challenges facing Irish society today, North and South. Speakers will be: Austin Currie, former Civil Rights campaigner and Government Minister, North and South Bernadette McAliskey, former MP for Mid-Ulster and Migrant Rights worker Michael Farrell, former Civil Rights campaigner and Human Rights lawyer Joanna McMinn, National Women’s Council and Equality & Rights Alliance Representative of St. Vincent de Paul Society Chair: Michael Halpenny, Former Civil Rights activist and SIPTU official. All are welcome and please pass on to others who may be interested. Doors open 7:15pm; bar open after meeting. Michael Farrell, Vice Chair, Civil Rights 1968 Commemoration Committee


4. garibaldy - October 13, 2008

On complimentary reading, the pamphlet published after Billy McMillen’s death from which this piece has been taken has been reiussed by The Workers’ Party, and can be got from its offices. If I remember right (and I probably don’t), it contains this speech, a Bodenstown speech by McMillen, Goulding’s oration, and a lecture by Desi O’Hagan. A new pamphlet Civil Rights: Reform or Revolution? covering the politics of the republican movement of much the same period can also be got from the same source. It addresses the republican role in the civil rights movement, and makes some similar points to Brian Hanley’s introduction about it.

I think Brian Hanley’s introduction is a very good one, but that a different view can be taken on some of his interpretations. The first thing we might take note of is Goulding’s statements in the Irish Times quoted here. These were of course made in the context of a looming split within the Movement over the political direction been taken, and the need to try and minimise what was clearly coming. The attempted coup at gunpoint in 1969 against McMillen by proto-Provisionals gives some indication of the pressures the leadership in Dublin and Belfast was under, and McMillen himself refers resisting demands that guns be used in early 1969. It should also be borne in mind that when McMillen was engaged in struggle during the 1960s he had no expectation that in 1972 he would be just coming out of a campaign undertaken by a greatly expanded IRA, and that his reflections on the 1960s are influenced by that context. This might be worth thinking about when thinking about what he says about the IRA and military action.

The reforms proposed in 1964-1965 referred to in Brian Hanley’s introduction in relation to absentionism (and which are available as an appendix to Sean Swan’s book, which can be downloaded as a pdf for less than £3.50 here http://stores.lulu.com/seanswan) give a clear picture of what the leadership was trying to achieve. Although there is no sign in these reforms of the IRA disappearing, it is clear that politics was seen as the way forward. The centrality of McMillen to the leadership project in Belfast and the north generally should be borne in mind at this point, though of course we should also remember that military organisation and training was also continuing.

This leads us to the question of whether all constitutional methods were ever really going to go out the window should civil rights fail, as suggested by Goulding and as Brian Hanley suggests Billy McMillen thought in 1969 at least. I believe not. The stress given to political action in the north in the United Irishman (such as activism in Newry or the defying of the ban on the Republican Clubs by students and Republicans) and McMillen’s personal involvement in agitations on housing, strikes etc suggest that he – and the leadership of which he was a member in the North (McGurran etc) – was totally commited to a political role for Republicans now and for the future. At the recent Northern Regional Conference of The WP, one speaker recalled how he had been initially dismissive of talk about the importance of reforming and democratising NI until McMillen had convinced him otherwise – this was in the period before 1969. In this light, I am not sure that Seán is right to say that Republicans expected the demands for civil rights to provoke such a violent response that the struggle would move beyond that. I think everybody was taken aback by the depth of the violent reaction. Certainly McMillen’s actions after 1969 and the policies he supported don’t seem to me to suggest that he saw the civil rights campaign as the immediate prelude to mounting a campaign on the national question.

Violence had not been abandoned as an ultimate strategy for revolution, nor had direct action in support of strikes etc been abandoned, but we shouldn’t mistake this for a commitment to an armed struggle if politics did not achieve immediate success (not that I think Brian Hanley is suggesting this is the case, but others have).

I find Seán’s comments on the 1972 Ard Fheis interesting. Certainly as far as I know McMillen was always keen to talk about the need for Irish unity, and I have seen it argued that he was keen to retain a movement as opposed to the transition to a party only, and that his murder removed the last significant opposition to that. Again I am nor sure that this is a plausible explanation given what we know about McMillen’s own actions, and the leadership of which he was such an integral part. I know that people who would have supported plan B did change their minds, but I have never heard McMillen’s name mentioned as one of them.

Thanks to Brian Hanley for publishing this now, and for the introduction are due I think. I think it shows how useful the Irish Left Archive can be, so WBS et al also deserve another vote of thanks.


5. Redking - October 13, 2008

Great post.
People do tend to talk up the primacy of the gun in the (Official) Republican movement during the period in question.
I agree with Garibaldy that it was always only a tactical question and not some evidence of a pathologiocal adherence to violence or militarism.

As far as I understand it Goulding, McMillen and most of the rest of the leadership only saw armed struggle as (possibly) coming at the end of a protracted struggle and that struggle and its success was dependant on the existence of a radicalised mass movement and crucially a united working class. Hence a democratic struggle in which the whole of the people where involved.

They saw that sectarian terrorism as practised by the Provos and others retarded the struggle for working class unity. Too true.

Looking forward to Brian and Scott’s book.


6. Seán Ó Tuama - October 13, 2008


The debate at the 1972 Ardfheis was on motions (which I think were passed) on the on the political centrality of the national question and the demands that flowed from that. Armed struggle was not discussed but was clearly a sub-text. It may be that McMillen was then supporting Costello on the importance of the national question but not on his military line.

As regards whether the Northern leadership expected such a violent reaction, my point is more that there was a contradiction between the 3 stages theory and miliary actions or political statements that implied that in practice the Northern state was irreformable.


7. Jimmy McNulty - October 13, 2008

So the IRA had not abandoned violence, but it really had? What split was Goulding trying to head off in April 1969? They believed in an armed struggle at some stage but not until the ‘whole’ people were united? Well theres never been a revolution in history when the ‘whole’ people were united. There seems to be fairly torturous attempts to here to avoid what’s patently obvious. Cathal Goulding and his supporters believed in using force to bring about change. What a surprise, they were the IRA!


8. WorldbyStorm - October 13, 2008

Have to be honest I tend to agree with you Jimmy to some degree. It seems to me difficult to sustain the idea that the IRA, Goulding version, saw violence as some way down the line when their actions across a range of areas saw them centrally implicated in the its use. By their lights and in the context of the times that made perfect sense. So you had armed actions against foreign interests, etc, etc as well as in the North. The distinction surely was that unlike PIRA which was only interested in the North (or at least kept its central focus on it for an awful long time), the Officials were interested in a broader based struggle both political, military and social on the island as a whole.

There’s no contradiction in suggesting that this was tactical and not pathological and *also* seeing its use as entirely valid in the context of the beliefs of what became the Officials.

I think there was a degree of retrofitting, not so much after the initial ceasefires, but more pointedly post the split with INLA/IRSP (and certainly in the wake of feuds) where there was a shift – perhaps understandably – to a sort of position which largely eschewed violence and sought to downplay its previous use.

It’s probably also reasonable to suggest that the decade between 1963 and 1973 offered the steepest of learning curves.


9. Garibaldy - October 13, 2008

I think that WBS is probably right to suggest that the formation of the IRSP and subsequent events probably did accelerate what had been planned for a longer time in terms of transforming the Movement into a Party. Equally, I don’t think I was suggesting that in the 1960s there was no vision of an ultimate use of physical force. But I still think that would have been in the context of a revolutionary situation, north and south. The reforms I referred to earlier, and Garland’s Bodenstown speech of 1968 before the Troubles and when the leadership was pushing hard on its agenda (an extract available is here http://www.scribd.com/doc/6397454/Stormont-Hansard-1968), suggest that this was the case.


The split with what would become the Provos had been brewing for some time, with opposition to the new direction beginning in 1963 or 1964, and accelerating as time went on, especially over absentionism, which was up for review again around this time.


You may well be right regarding the Ard Fheis. On the possible contradictions between the stages theory and statements about the irreformability of the state, I think they probably thought it was reformable (in the sense that the discriminatory regime could be removed) through peaceful popular opposition. Which I guess is to an extent what happened on October 5th, in the aftermath of which London made it clear the old regime was going to have to go.


10. WorldbyStorm - October 13, 2008

That’s fair enough, although I wonder whether in 1968/9 there was a genuine sense of it being revolutionary alone as much as part of a broader struggle with the national struggle pivotal to it. And not least because in 68/69 what else did Goulding et al have but the IRA and Sinn Féin?


11. garibaldy - October 13, 2008

Well they had NICRA for a start 🙂
Goulding was clear that his goal was to transform the Movement rather than walk out on it (a mistake he believed had been made in the 1930s). I really don’t think he anticipated a campaign against the state in the north outside a revolutionary situation, though the question of actions in defence and in support of strikes etc seems more open. I think Goulding had a sense that it would take time for people to work out that the future lay in politics alone (save perhaps the final showdown). He basically said as much when he said the campaign perhaps ought to have been wound down more gradually to give people more time to adjust.


12. Seán Ó Tuama - October 13, 2008

Btw, I think there there was also a growing contradiction between the stages theory and the increasingly infleuntial workerist fantasy of unity between the Nationalist and Unionist working class on the basis of purely economic demands. This was a position which ended in a surrender to Unionism without the WP making much progress in either Nationalist or Unionist working class areas in the North.

I note that the fantasy position of the an imminent working class unity destroyed by nasty Provos or “Provo-Trots” is still being expressed by people such as Redking (a very suitable pseudonym for somebody who expresses the old snarling Stalinist sectarianism of the WP).

I also note with considerable amusement,but no little surprise, that the task of reforming the Northern state now appears to be the burden of Redking’s “sectarian Provos” rather than the nice WP who would have loved that opportunity;


13. garibaldy - October 13, 2008


Purely economic demands and surrender to unionism? What was that you were saying about snarling sectarianism?

To the substantive points, I don’t think that The WP programme was ever purely economic, or ringroad socialism or whatever you want to call it. People would do well to compare the Republican Clubs document on policing from 1975 with subsequent developments, and bear in mind lobbying for a Bill of Rights, anti-sectarian action, integrated education and housing, long before such things became the commonplace rhetoric of politics. As for reforming the state, I’d say the Provo task now is to administer it rather than reform it. The Agreement looks just like nearly every plan for NI since 1973. Shame it took us so long to get there.


14. CL - October 14, 2008

Does anyone have an assessment of Sean Swan’s book, ‘Official Irish Republicanism’? Any good, or just academic?


15. garibaldy - October 14, 2008


You can read an extract from it yourself here



16. splinteredsunrise - October 14, 2008

The Swan book is very good, and fills in lots of detail I certainly hadn’t been aware of. I’ve been meaning for ages to write something about it, but never got around to it.

Yes, transforming the movement into a party, but what kind of party? Bear in mind all sorts of ideological retrofitting, and not just post the IRSP split. Just to take an example out of the air, O Bradaigh’s argument that Goulding had set out to turn SF into a constitutional socialist party. You could say that’s what the WP became, but it certainly wasn’t self-evident in 1970-72 or I would say for a good while afterwards. Hindsight is a great thing, isn’t it?


17. garibaldy - October 14, 2008

I agree with Splintered Sunrise that Swan’s book is a very interesting and informative read. Well worth a look at for anybody who is interested.

On the party point. I can see why SS is making that argument. Equally, even disregarding what the people involved in the transformation might say today, there is a lot of evidence for the transformation into a political party being the aim from very early on. The proposals I’ve referred to above in 1964/5 point in that direction, and it is possible that they were a muted version of the ultimate aim, with the intention to build support for it gradually rather than do it all at once and provoke a split before it became unavoidable. I certainly think that Garland’s Bodenstown speech of 1972 or 1973 that lays out clearly the aim of building a party on Leninist lines is the very latest we can date that aim, and it seems likely that it was the aim well before that. I suspect that without things flaring up in NI in 1969 and the events of the next few years the absention debate would have been won quite comfortably, a smaller split would have occurred, and the transformation of the Movement would have been completed more quickly. But that of course is counterfactual and unproveable.

That said, the type of direct action politics that was prominent throughout Europe in the 1960s and that has since fallen out of use in most political cultures, including Ireland, was probably envisaged as more central that it actually became. For example, the Irish Democratic Youth Movement occupied the Irish financial centre in Dublin in the mid-70s, and forced a suspension of trading for the day. If you did that today, you would be bankrupted and your assets seized in response.


18. Free Finglas - October 14, 2008

I think the idea was to have a party with guns instead of having an army with political policies.


19. Jimmy McNulty - October 14, 2008

Yeah, when exactly did Goulding’s movement give up the gun?


20. Redking - October 14, 2008

Seán: “Redking (a very suitable pseudonym for somebody who expresses the old snarling Stalinist sectarianism of the WP).”

catch yourself on, mucker.

“I also note with considerable amusement,but no little surprise, that the task of reforming the Northern state now appears to be the burden of Redking’s “sectarian Provos””

Provos reforming the Northern state? who’s the believer in fantasy here?


21. Seán Ó Tuama - October 14, 2008

Irony does not appear to be your strong point,does it?


22. Damian O'Broin - October 14, 2008

Great post. Really looking forward to reading it in detail. I’ve a personal interest as McMillen was a close friend of my father’s (in fact he was his best man) and I met him very briefly as a child – probably not long before he was murdered – when he ghosted into our house to pay a visit. McMillen tends to be overlooked in most mainstream accounts of the IRA and troubles so it’s great to get some good material by/about him.


23. WorldbyStorm - October 14, 2008

That’s fascinating Damian. I hesitate to ask, but how did they know each other. Was it a shared political thing, or geographic, or whatever?

Re the broader issue. Not sure I buy the idea of Goulding et al wedded to a sort of submerged pacifism, or indeed constitutionalism from early on. That’s certainly not the pattern we see if we look at IRA activities outside the North during the same period mentioned above. Indeed Brian Hanley gave an excellent lecture in TCD on just that matter that rather belies the idea that the IRA or SF were simply sliding to a left of Labour position during this period.


24. garibaldy - October 14, 2008

I am not saying that in the 1960s they saw no role for some form of action to support strikes etc, but I think that there was an element of letting that addiction to that type of action burn itself out, but not being able to say it. Evidence can be adduced for both positions I think.


25. WorldbyStorm - October 14, 2008

Maybe – although again listening to Brian Hanley the sheer range of operations went far beyond supporting strikes and into some very activist territory. Yet one could also argue that post-split they didn’t run down the OIRA, if anything they ran it up. Now that too could be a tactical move to try to take as many as they could with them (althouhg they must have recognised that in the ferment of opinion in the 1969 – 72 period they’d lose people to the Provisionals if they stopped). Or it could be – and this is largely my view – that there was no fundamental problem with action (even in the context of the South but particularly in the North) and it was only later that they began to have serious second thoughts (perhaps from 71 onwards). After all their unique selling point wasn’t a lack of willingness to use violence but instead a focus on how and where violence should be used. And that was sustained across quite a number of years post-split.

I guess what I’m getting at is that it’s not possible to differentiate Official and Provisional Republicanism on their use of violence in the period before during and after the split because that wasn’t the issue, it was the ends that were the point of distinction. And it’s only later that the use of violence per se becomes an issue when, and here I’d tend mostly but not entirely to the Official analysis, it appears counter-productive in terms of achieving political goals within the North or on the island.


26. garibaldy - October 14, 2008

The dynamic of events in the North was certainly that the military wing was ramped up massively after August 1969. The question surely is whether it was being run down before then. Which I think it was, although not everywhere at the same time and same pace (as Mc Millen’s lecture suggests). From talking to people, there were some volunteers annoyed at the instruction in 1966 or 1967 to join the Republican Clubs/SF, and training etc would certainly have helped keep them.

I think there was a recognition at the very top that allowing some form of campaign to go ahead in the North was necessary in the circumstances but that their aim – especially Goulding – was to get it over with as quickly as possibly. This view was not I agree shared by all those who supported the ceasefire a few years later. We shouldn’t forget that the Official analysis that indiscriminate violence would only produce massive sectarian violence was the analysis of the IRA during the Border Campaign, which was why the targets of that campaign were very limited. I think there certainly was a difference not only in the ends, but also in the targets.

The question of what might be counted as action remains. So a campaign against property is a long way away from actions against the police north and south. One can conceive of a counter-factual IRA without the events of 1969 attacking property in the counter-factual 1970s north and south, but not I think engaging in any form of campaign.


27. CL - October 14, 2008

The Swan book I must read. Thanks.
My own impressionistic view,-not based on any detailed investigation-is that after the ending of the ’56-’62 campaign the opening to the left offered great hope. And was a source of deep concern to the 26-co. establishment-especially the faction led by Haughey.
Then it all went astray. The Official tendency adopted a dogmatic, Moscovite ‘marxism’, as the Provisionals, seemingly with some backing from the Haugheyites, became almost entirely a physical force movement. (I’m looking at things from the ‘South’)
It seems that what was obtained by the Belfast Agreement was on offer a few decades earlier: but the futility of the armed struggle had first to be demonstrated.
Which leaves us with the question: what now for republicanism? I certainly don’t have an answer.


28. Damian O'Broin - October 14, 2008

It was a political thing WBS. Dad was very involved in republican, trade union and Irish language circles in the 1940s and 1950s and as far as I know he met Billy through Fianna Eireann. By the time the border campaign rolled around, dad had left his active involvement in republicanism behind and was busy with the language and trade union work – but the friendship with McMillen remained.


29. WorldbyStorm - October 15, 2008

Hmmm… Garibaldy. It is possible to take a more benign view of these matters, but… that seems to me to be only possible if we ignore the central point that the IRA both pre and post split was a paramilitary organisation. I think we’ll have to agree to differ.

CL, that’s also a central point. The broadish outlines of the BA were on offer earlier – but it wasn’t just armed struggle that stymied them. A major – perhaps the major – factor was the unwillingness of tranches of Unionism to countenance even power-sharing. This isn’t to deny that armed campaigns didn’t give cover to those tranches and hence it was vital that they ended, but it’s not quite right to place it as the central stumbling bloc. It was one of a number.

D O’B. Now that is genuinely remarkable. Such friendships seem to have been very important. I’m reminded – to take an extreme example – of Ruairi Ó’s families friendship with their local CnaG/FG TD back in the day.


30. garibaldy - October 15, 2008


I agree that the evidence is open to different interpretations. I don’t mean to suggest that everything that happened subsequently had been planned out by Goulding et al in 1963, but Swan’s book (and Roy Johnston’s) contains a lot of detailed info that shows just how central the political path was, and how ultimately the IRA was to be demoted to one of a number of specialist sections. Agreeing to differ seems reasonable.


I too agree. The GFA is not that different from the first plans for power sharing produced around 1973. WBS is right though that unionist intransigence was too great without a London government absolutely determined to push power sharing through whatever it took. As we know, such a government was lacking during the UWC Strike and for a long time afterwards.


31. Jimmy McNulty - October 15, 2008

Roy Johnston’s book doesn’t mention anything the IRA did; in fact it describes them as the creation of Unionist mythology. Yet he was on the Army Council. So maybe not the best historical survey. Haven’t read Swans. Does the new WP pamphlet on civil rights mention McMillen’s recounting of pushing the celebs into police lines in Derry? Or any of the armed actions?


32. garibaldy - October 15, 2008

You must have been reading a different book to me Jimmy. From memory the new pamphlet does refer to Fitt getting batoned, and to direct action.


33. WorldbyStorm - October 15, 2008

“Specialist sections”… 🙂 Interesting…


34. garibaldy - October 15, 2008

I think the comparison drawn was with work in the trade unions, what would now be called community groups, etc, though I would need to check again in those books to confirm it.


35. WorldbyStorm - October 15, 2008

Which in a way was what happened eventually. Although typically the party’s enemies were all too happy to run with malign interpretations of it.


36. garibaldy - October 15, 2008

Well indeed, this mystique arose about conspiratorial methods and democratic centralism and all the rest. Parodied by John Lowry effectively in 1992 as the notion of waiting for instructions in Russian to seize the GPO.


37. CL - October 15, 2008

I’m not exactly saying that the armed struggle was the major stumbling block.Unwinding the historical tape is of course not possible. We don’t know what would have happened in the absence of the armed struggle.
I’m suggesting that an agreement couldn’t have been reached until the futility of the armed struggle was demonstrated. Because there were always those who said that all-out armed struggle could succeed. There was only one way for this argument to be refuted. And so the armed struggle had to occur before it was shown to be in vain-and thus an agreement made possible.
Unionist intransigence I take as a given.


38. garibaldy - October 16, 2008

I think there’s an element of truth in what CL says in that the people who were 15 or 20 in 1969 and 1975 had a belief they could succeed. Equally I think that was was waning by the late 1970s until the Hunger Strikes breathed new life into things. The early 1970s saw a series of disasters that alienated large groups from the state; same in the 1980s. I’m not sure it’s an accident that no such event occurred in the early 1990s and the ceasefires were secured.


39. John Harper - February 1, 2016

During the civil rights period the majority of the republician movement were working class ,not much education,just saw injustice as injustice,never looked beyond the day,Billy McMillan saw further afield,and,he did his best to educate the members of the offical I.R.A. and the republician clubs that theier strength wad unity within the working class,but as on both sides,the unionist working class were as ignorant as the nationalist working class.I dispair now that the workers party only makes gestures to live up to the ideals of Billy,Cathal and Tomas.


40. Aidso - October 29, 2018

Our day will come tiocfaidh a’r l’a


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