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Anyone able to shed some light on this? February 16, 2010

Posted by WorldbyStorm in Irish Politics.
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This was forwarded to me today…

Dear *******.
The Civil partnership Bill is going through the Dail at the moment.This bill if it is passed will allow Gay couples all the rights of married couples bar the right to call it marriage or the right to adopt children,but this will quickly follow as these rights are sanctioned by other European states and backed up by European law and the charter of fundamental rights which is legally binding in all EU countries after the passing of the Lisbon treaty by Ireland. The meeting in the Dail with Dail Deputies will take place on the 17th of February at 7pm and all who wish to convey their concerns about thiS bill are invited to attend provided that they email me or text me Their name by Monday 15th.February. All who wish to avail of this opportunity to tell their public representative of their concerns should meet on the 17th February at 6.30pm at Buswells Hotel opposite the Dail on Molesworth steet, for a short briefing meeting ,before we proceed into the Dail for the meeting which is being organised by the Green party Minister Mr.Eamon Ryan.Our concerns must be conveyed in a dignified and non-emotive way in order not to allow our concerns about the bill being described by the media as homophobic or intolerant.Our case will be that we have a democratic right to campaign for the protection of marriage and the family as they are understood by moral and natural law and by all the major religions of the world.Those attending should ring their local dail deputies and invite them to attend the meeting. The bill does not provide a conscience clause and those who refuse to register these ceremonies could be fined 2,00o euro and or face six months in prison.

Anyone able to shed any light on the ‘meeting’?

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1. Crocodile - February 16, 2010

It’s tellingly illiterate, anyway:

“.. in order not to allow our concerns about the bill being described by the media as homophobic or intolerant”.

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2. shane - February 16, 2010

Damien English, Leo Varadkar, Lucinda Creighton, Seymour Crawford and Sean Barrett are all strong supporters of a conscience clause. It might have something to do with one of them.

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3. Robert - February 16, 2010

It’s not Fine Gael backed. Most likely Ronan Mullen.

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Wednesday - February 17, 2010

“organised by the Green party Minister Mr.Eamon Ryan”

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4. Cathal - February 17, 2010

Is it the new Catholic League? there is a piece in the Examiner today about them
http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/catholic-group-warns-tds-of-evil-of-civil-partnership-bill-112407.html#ixzz0fmuZA7lT

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irishelectionliterature - February 17, 2010

It looks like they are the same group that had an article ‘HYSTERIA OVER IRISH CLERGY ABUSE’ about the Ryan report..
http://www.catholicleague.org/release.php?id=1616

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5. Maman Poulet » Eamon Ryan – A TD to all - February 17, 2010

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6. Damian - February 17, 2010

I believe Sodom and Gomorrah was referenced at least once, and one gay man there was offered consolation: “God loves you. But he does not love the acts that you engage in.”

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WorldbyStorm - February 17, 2010

Hmmm… that clearly is the ‘dignified and non-emotive’ approach they champion. Any thoughts on why how the meeting came about?

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7. Garibaldy - February 18, 2010

Will there be an alliance formed with the remnants of the Save Ulster from Sodomy campaign reflective of the post-GFA cross-border cooperation? We need to know.

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8. Damian - February 18, 2010

Far as I know Eamon Ryan didn’t organise it. He agreed to talk to some constituents, who then spread the word. Then Richard Greene and Coir got involved, and it got out of hand… and all of a sudden there are 60 zealots crammed into a room in the Earl of Kildare talking about the folly of civil partnerships.

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WorldbyStorm - February 18, 2010

Yikes…

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9. Eoin - February 18, 2010

Eamon Ryan didn’t organise it. He had agreed to meet some constituents about the CP bill, but those people unknown to him got Richard Greene involved and hence the whole thing was hijacked. They weren’t allowed come into the Dáil because of this explosion in attendees so as a compromise it was agreed to hear them out in the Earl of Kildare. The meeting was lively, occasionally hostile, but it was conveyed to those in attendance that their input, though welcome, would not be leading to any dilution of the CP bill. At one point a GP representative asked for the attendees to temper their language, as some of it was quite bilious.

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10. dublindilettante - February 18, 2010

At one point a GP representative asked for the attendees to temper their language, as some of it was quite bilious.

The Greens really do pick the most extraordinarily arbitrary things to get worked up about, given some the stuff they’re party to.

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11. Donagh - February 18, 2010

The meeting was lively, occasionally hostile, but it was conveyed to those in attendance that their input, though welcome, would not be leading to any dilution of the CP bill. At one point a GP representative asked for the attendees to temper their language, as some of it was quite bilious.
Eoin, you don’t work for the Irish Times do you? Was Paul Gogarty there? Why am I even asking?

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14. Tomboktu - March 1, 2010
15. Paschal - March 4, 2010

E.U. law has no effect on the marriage laws of E.U. member states. The Treaty of Lisbon makes it clear that the European Charter of Fundamental Rights doesn’t effect areas under the complete control of member states. The Civil Partnership Bill 2009, along with other bills to be passed afterwards, would grant many rights but does not grant as many as suggested by the above blog entry. As the entry says, it doen’t allow adiption by same-sex couples and doesn’t allow the use of the term ”marriage”. But the entry doesn’t mention that there are other shortcomings in the bill. Hopefully people who oppose equal rights for all Irish people willnot be victorious and there will be justice, liberty and love for all.

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WorldbyStorm - March 5, 2010

Can’t disagree there Paschal. Take your point abut the other shortcomings.

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