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Norway and after… July 28, 2011

Posted by WorldbyStorm in The Left.

There’s something about the Norway events which are almost too big for comprehension. The scale of deaths, the fact they were generally so young, the political dimension – such as it was and the sense that something like this, given the sheer weight of rhetoric on the issues that apparently motivated Breivik, or at least gave him the excuse to do what he did, was near inevitable.

I don’t quite agree with Simon Jenkins in the Guardian who argues that Breivik:

…does not tell us anything about Norway. No, he does not tell us anything about “the state of modern society”. He tells us nothing about terrorism or gun control or policing or political holiday camps. His avowal of fascism could as well have been of communism or Islamism or anarchism. The desperate, perhaps understandable, search to find meaning in such acts is dangerous. Breivik does not even measure up to the ideological coherence of the nazism he admired. He is plainly very sick.

That’s true to an extent, but again, it seems to me that the waters in which he swam, those of Islamophobia and sort of kind of fascism, were buoyant enough to keep him afloat to commit the crimes that he did. And it’s a telling indication of how rhetoric has a power, at least with some.

There was a good piece by the ever-reliable William Saletan in Slate which noted how some how push that rhetoric are none too keen to see how it might impact on a few individuals in a profoundly murderous way.

But I think Jenkins is particularly incorrect because he seems to misunderstand that power in relation to less pointedly murderous outcomes, but no less pernicious ones.

Nor can I see any purpose in detailed textual analysis of Breivik’s so-called manifesto, least of all as a means to make easy partisan points, leftwing or rightwing, out of its garbled horror. We do not need a mass killing in Norway to know that the English Defence League and British National Party are distasteful and xenophobic organisations. The “experts in far-right studies” emerging from British universities to suggest “possible links” merely feed the hysteria, publicising what is best ignored.

That’s all right as far as it goes, but noting rhetoric that inflames people to mass in groups and intimidate others, or worse, isn’t simple partisan point scoring. That has a clear impact.

All that said, I do agree entirely with Jenkins that there’s a sort of patronising tone entering the discourse about Norway. All this talk of ‘lost innocence’ in relation to Norway sounds like hot air to me. As he notes…

[Norway] needs no patronising from more “mature” democracies, least of all ones that react to every threat with another turn of the illiberal screw. If the world is to put Norway in the spotlight, the lesson it should draw is that advocated at the weekend by its prime minister, Jens Stoltenberg, for more openness and pluralism. Vigorous argument, not witch-hunts and repression, is the way to entrench democracy, rather than overreacting to a terrible but random act of insanity.

And yet, what really brought it home to me was the following exchange between a young woman at the camp and her mother by text… and particularly the second last line where attempts at normality collide with the grim reality of what was going on and yet, something of that normality shines through.

J: We hope we’ll be picked up by someone soon. Can they not catch him soon?!
M: The anti-terrorism unit is there and they are working on catching him.
J: OK.
M: Should we try to get the flight home tomorrow?
J: I have no time to think about that now.
M: I understand that.

Good on her.

Waterford, Cork, The Left and Local Elections since 1974 July 28, 2011

Posted by irishelectionliterature in Irish Politics.
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Another bunch of Local Election Results that are currently unavailable online.
For the Left The Waterford City Council results are probably of most interest.
In 1974 Official Sinn Fein polled over 10% of the vote with Paddy Gallagher winning a seat. Then in 1979 Sinn Fein The Workers Party won two seats with almost 20% of the vote. The Socialist Labour Party also fielded candidates.
In 1985 a split in The Workers Party saw a number of candidates stand for the Waterford Peoples Party with Martin O’Reagan being elected for them whilst Davy Walsh and Paddy Gallagher won seats for The Workers Party. Between them the WP and WPP polled over 20% of the vote.
In 1991 The Workers Party won three seats and missed out being the largest party vote wise by a mere 57 votes.
1n 1999 despite the 1992 split the party held on to its 3 seats although its share of the vote was down slightly. 1999 also saw the SWP enter the fray in Waterford.
In 2004 The Workers Party lost a seat with John Halligan romping home on the first count and Davy Walsh holding on too. Their vote dropped from 1999. Again the SWP dipped their toes.
In 2009 with John Halligan now an Independent, Willie Moore missed out by 56 votes. Davy Walsh held on to his seat, whilst Joe Tobin came within 8 votes of winning a seat. PBP fielded a candidate here too.
Another thing about Waterford is the collapse of the Fianna Fail vote in 2004 and 2009 when they only won a single seat in each election.
Should there have been any Left Independent candidates I missed out please do tell.

From Waterford City a scenic drive down the Copper Coast, over the Blackwater past Youghal, through Midleton and on into Cork City.

1974 didn’t see much for the Left in Cork with OSF on just over 5% and no seats.
1979 and Ted Tynan wins a seat for SFWP as they poll just under 5%.
1985 sees Kathleen Lynch and John Kelleher win seats for The Workers Party as the party polls 5.66%. The CPI also stand two candidates.
1991 and The Workers Party vote almost doubles to 9.94% and Jimmy Homan, Kathleen Lynch and John Kelleher win seats.
1999 marked a low point with Jimmy Homan (Lynch and Kelleher defected) losing his seat and The Workers Party not even polling 2%. It also saw Mick Barry of The Socialist Party make his first electoral appearance polling 349 votes.
2004 saw Mick Barry top the poll and the two Workers Party candidates Mick Crowley and Ted Tynan increase the party vote in their wards.
2009 saw Ted Tynan winning a seat for The Workers Party , whilst Mick Barry of The Socialist Party again romped home. The Socialist Party for the first time fielded a second candidate in Cork in Dave Keating who polled 295 votes.

There was a WP presence in East Cork with Joe Sherlock being repeatedly elected to the Council and in Waterford County Tony Wright was elected in Dungarvan and there was a WP presence in Tramore.
In Cork for The Workers Party Leo Owens had a number of spells on Cobh UDC, Tadgh O’Donovan and Tom Phelan had spells on Fermoy UDC, Joe Sherlock on Mallow UDC.(There may well have been others)
In Waterford Tony Wright had a spell on Dungarvan TC (I think the WP also won a seat in the Údarás na Gaeltachta elections for the Ring Gaeltacht at some point in the 80s).
Anyhow ….
These are excel files.

Cork City Council 1974 to 2009

Cork Cork County Council 1960 to 2009
Apologies in that the 1967 results are incomplete (if you happen to have them….)
Waterford City Council 1974 to 2009

Waterford County Council 1974 to 2009
(There are a few gaps for Waterford County Council for 1979, would love the results if you have them)

and these are links to posts with excel files…
Other results to date posted Here (Cavan, Carlow, Clare) and Here (Dublin City and County)

Bertie: Business Guru July 27, 2011

Posted by Garibaldy in Capitalism, Crime, Fianna Fáil.

Perhaps that headline should read Bertie: Business Gubu instead. Today’s Irish Independent brings us news that Bertie Ahern is charging American businesses $40,000 a time for a lecture on how he transformed the Irish economy during the boom times, and is offering tips on how to succeed in business (presumably proper accounting procedures are not high on that list).

In his latest lecture — entitled ‘Prime Minister as CEO’ — he tells listeners to adopt Ireland’s Celtic Tiger as a model of economic growth.

His fee, which is listed as being more than US$40,000, is in the top bracket and shared by just 57 other mostly American speakers, including former US President George W Bush.

But it is his speech on the economy which promises to reveal how Irish citizens accepted “short-term sacrifices to achieve long-term gain”, which has raised most eyebrows.

The outline of the speech reads: “Leading the turnaround of an entire country is akin to the constant evolution companies and organisations must undergo to remain competitive.

“Bertie Ahern dedicated his career to re-inventing his country’s economic and political stakes in global affairs. He persuaded his fellow politicians and citizens to accept short-term sacrifices to achieve long-term gain.

“His ability to persuade his constituents to follow his vision provides lessons for even the most seasoned executives.”

So basically, he gives a speech in which he boasts how he was able to talk round huge numbers of people into believing what he wanted them to believe. True, but shameless.

UPDATE: Speaking of shameless, this speech by Eamon Ryan via Sluggerotoole could probably do with a post of its own, but I’m so annoyed by it (even if some of what he says about political parties north and south is correct) I couldn’t face it.

Dublin City Business Association Update… July 27, 2011

Posted by WorldbyStorm in Reaction, Uncategorized.

This, from DCBA, was forwarded by a friend of the CLR. Check out the second article. Actually, check out the third too…

As the person who forwarded it noted ‘I knew they were reactionaries at DCBA but even so…’.

Meanwhile… back at the Seanad July 27, 2011

Posted by WorldbyStorm in back at the Seanad, Irish Politics.

And so they went. And never did they become themselves so much as the manner of their parting… hold on a second.. no they haven’t gone. They’re there for at least another week, if only to prove their relevance. A funny old week though, praise for gay, lesbian and transgendered people from unexpected sources, a new arrival for a new arrival and matters various…including

Senator Ivana Bacik:    Like Senator O’Brien, I welcome the news of the agreement between France and Germany. We all wish the Government well in its negotiations at today’s EU meeting. It would be in all our interests to see, even at this stage, a reduction in the interest rate being charged to Ireland. I am sure Opposition Members would agree with me in respect of that matter.
I know others have already done so but I wish to request a debate on the Cloyne report. That debate should take place as soon as possible. In that context, I compliment the Taoiseach on his contribution on the motion on the Cloyne report in the Dáil yesterday. His speech rightly made headlines and is being discussed everywhere today. The Taoiseach’s contribution to the debate on this matter has been described as a landmark and as representing an unprecedented critique of the Vatican and of church structures in Ireland.
When one considers the findings in the Cloyne report, it is clear that the Taoiseach’s comments are entirely justified. The report has proved to be of a different order to the Murphy and Ryan reports, which, in their content, were also shocking. The Cloyne report is different because, as the Taoiseach stated, for the first time in this country “a report on child sexual abuse exposes an attempt by the Holy See to frustrate an inquiry in a sovereign, democratic republic as little as three years ago, not three decades ago”. Across Ireland, there is immense anger and outrage that this has been the case.
As the Taoiseach stated, we are awaiting the considered response of the Vatican to the Cloyne report. However, he also stated that this is no longer “industrial school or Magdalene Ireland, where the swish of a soutane, smothered conscience and humanity and the swing of a thurible ruled the Irish Catholic world”. He further pointed out that in this Republic of Ireland in 2011 “rights and responsibilities and proper civic order where the delinquency and arrogance of a particular version of a particular kind of morality will no longer be tolerated or ignored”. The Taoiseach spoke with passion and I compliment him on that. As he stated, it was difficult for him, as a practising Catholic, to do so.
In light of what the Taoiseach said yesterday, there is a need to examine the structures of our State. We must consider putting the State in order and we must also ensure that the structures in the Oireachtas are appropriate to those of a modern republic. In that context, I intend to propose at today’s meeting of the Committee on Procedure and Privileges that we end the practice of saying a Christian prayer at the commencement of proceedings each day in the Seanad. I will propose an amendment to Standing Order 18 to provide instead for a moment or a few minutes of silent reflection in order that each Senator, in accordance with his or her own conscience and preference—–
Senator Darragh O’Brien:    On a point of order, that is a matter for the Committee on Procedure and Privileges. It is not a matter for the Order of Business.
Senator Ivana Bacik:    I am raising this matter in the context of a debate on the church and the State. The saying of a prayer each day was also raised in the Dáil last week by Deputy Ó Riordáin of the Labour Party. He and I have both ensured that this matter is on the agendas of the Committees of Procedure and Privileges of the Dáil and the Seanad.
An Leas-Chathaoirleach:    I understand this matter is on the agenda of the Seanad Committee on Procedure and Privileges and that it will be dealt with by that committee.
Senator Ivana Bacik:    Yes, that is the position. However, it is a matter for the entire membership of the House to consider whether it is appropriate in a modern republic and whether it is respectful to those who are not of a Christian religion, to continue to say a Christian prayer at the commencement of proceedings each day in the House.
Senator David Norris:    Another Member referred to the issue of the prayer which is said at the commencement of business in this House. It is a very beautiful prayer and, as a believing Christian, I am of the view that it is appropriate to say such prayers before beginning one’s work. However, one must be mindful of the separation of church and State and of the view of many people like myself – I do not say this often in public – who are committed Christians but who nevertheless believe that the recitation of prayer should not be an automatic aspect of the business of Parliament. We live in a democracy where we have had agnostics, atheists, Muslims and Jews in the Oireachtas. As such, I am not sure it is appropriate to include a Christian prayer at the commencement of parliamentary business. This is an issue I have raised on previous occasions.
In regard to the daily broadcast of the Angelus by RTE, I would be very saddened to see it abolished. It has been part of our tradition for a long time and is something which allows people a moment for reflection. It is not sectarian in that it does not necessarily tie into any particular religion. Rather, it is an expression of part of what we are as Irish people.
An Leas-Chathaoirleach:    The recitation of the daily prayer is provided for under Standing Order 18. It is a matter for the Seanad Committee on Procedure and Privileges to institute any change in that regard.
Senator David Norris:    I accept that. However, the Standing Orders of the Seanad do not apply to the broadcast of the Angelus. As a member of the Church of Ireland, I have consistently defended its broadcast. It would be unfortunate if the impression were to go out that the Church of Ireland objects to it. As I understand it, the church does not have an official position on the matter. As a weekly churchgoer, I would personally miss it. If people do not like it, they can choose to do something useful while they are waiting for the news to start such as putting on the kettle. I do not find it at all offensive. I have reservations regarding the daily recitation of a prayer at the commencement of parliamentary business, but those reservations arise not from a position of antagonism to religion but rather because I take religion very seriously.


Stephen Collins is in an optimistic mood. July 26, 2011

Posted by WorldbyStorm in Economy, Irish Politics.

Because I was away I wasn’t up to speed with Stephen Collin’s offering in the Irish Times on Saturday. I’ll say this rarely has a man toiled so hard to offer a rosy view of the situation, even if he admits there are storm clouds.

The easing of the terms on the EU-IMF bailout is a reward for the strenuous efforts already made to get the budget deficit under control, and the lower interest payments will certainly be a help in enabling the country to cope with its burden of debt.

Our ‘reward’ – eh? And what of this?

The Taoiseach is now in a really strong position to ensure that the tough decisions required to keep the public finances firmly on the road to recovery are taken in the autumn. He has enough political capital in the bank to face down any internal opposition in Government and to weather the inevitable public storms ahead.

And finally…

More important has been his ability to convey a sense of optimism at a time when the country is on its knees. His positive attitude has come as a welcome relief to an electorate which has been subjected to an unremitting diet of bad news and gloomy economic forecasts for more than two years.
Voters have been indulgent enough to allow Kenny to backtrack on some of his election promises without suffering any political damage. The clear message is the electorate understands the scale of the economic crisis and wants the Government to tackle it at national level rather than getting bogged down on local issues like Roscommon hospital, whatever promises were or were not made in the heat of the campaign.

It’s great, isn’t it? It doesn’t matter about ‘local issues’ or ‘being on our knees’, or what to him is’ bad news and gloomy forecasts’ but what to many of us are attacks on working people across this state. All is well. The electorate is on-message finally having so unfortunately been off it for so long. One is irresistibly reminded of Brecht’s quip about appointing a ‘new people’, because we sure as hell don’t measure up to Collin’s expectations.
But then consider the flawed assumptions behind the following:

The essential requirement is that economic growth resumes. If that happens the debt to GDP ratio could improve quickly and that would bring confidence back into the economy. In the late 1980s a virtuous cycle of spending cuts and economic growth quickly shrank a debt burden that was even bigger than today’s, and the country moved from massive unemployment to near full employment in a few years. With luck the same self-sustaining cycle can be repeated.

In a way this is astounding stuff. Not a hint of how economic growth might come about. The term is just thrown in and in such a way as to seem to suggest that spending cuts will generate economic growth. And then the totemic nod to the late 1980s. For a rather more nuanced view of that period consider Michael Taft’s thoughts here which notes that from 1989 onwards the FF/PD governments increased public spending, EU money poured in, emigration saw our workers pour out and…

And this was done against a pretty bleak fiscal situation. While spending was being increased, the debt/GDP ratio was over 85%, though falling; interest payments on the debt soaked up a quarter of tax revenue and over 7% of GDP (compare that to payments in 2008 which made up only 1 percent of GDP). Still, they kept spending.

As well as…

And then the 1993 devaluation – which made our exports cheaper.

And then the fruits of years of work by the IDA – the multinationals swept in, bringing mega-growth.

And the direct state investment into the high-tech domestic sector.

But as Michael says, ‘we never hear that narrative – one that poses spending, investmetn and public policy as the driving force of the emerging economic boom. Rather, all we get is a selective and reductionist recitation of history, skewered to fit a set of pre-conceived policies’.

Apologies for quoting more than I usually would of another blogger but I think the points Michael make are the perfect critique of the narrative that Collins proposes…

Maps of the Left …. July 26, 2011

Posted by irishelectionliterature in Ireland.
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Might be of interest to some ….
Irish Political Maps have done maps of…..

The Workers’ Party’s first preference votes in the Republic, 1973 – 2011

and ….

The Socialist Workers’ Party/People Before Profit Alliance: first preference votes, 1997 – 2011

and …

The United Left Alliance parties’ first preference votes, 2011

That midsummer Irish Times/Ipsos MRBI poll… July 26, 2011

Posted by WorldbyStorm in Economy, Irish Politics, The Left.

I missed the detail in the Irish Times/Ipsos MRBI polls last week. Ah well.

But no problem. The magic of the internet is that almost nothing is transitory any longer. So there’s plenty of time to consider the detail. And what a lot of it there was.

First up the intriguing thought that still the ice floes of Irish electoral politics have yet to shift. It’s as if the enormous volatility that characterized opinion across the past three years has finally ceased – albeit for how long remains to be seen, and having made a choice the electorate is, by and large, happy enough with it.

Compared to the election outcome, Fine Gael is up two points to 38 per cent in today’s poll.

Fine Gael’s coalition partners, Labour, are on 18 per cent, a drop of just one point. Combined support for the two parties of Government is therefore holding steady.
The latest poll also confirms no rebound in popularity for Fianna Fáil, which registers 18 per cent support, an increase of just one point since the election. Sinn Féin (on 10 per cent) and the Green Party (on 2 per cent) are unchanged, while Independents/ Others (on 14 per cent) are just one point lower than their election showing.

Talking to people I know this didn’t entirely surprise me. There’s a dual dynamic [at least] abroad at the moment where some seem to believe the Government has done as well as it can in addition to a sort of wish during the Summer to ignore the broader economic picture.

Perhaps the former proposition is correct, as far as it goes. Some of us might not find that entirely comforting though. But it is a remarkably static picture and even the variations are all within the margin of error.

Now in a pre-election situation, though when one thinks of it aren’t we always in a pre-election situation, I might find great sport in parsing out those minute variations. Fianna Fáil up 1 per cent. Independents/Others down 1 per cent. But I can’t really be pushed. All this is in such a vacuum given the rather tepid end to the Dáil session over the past few weeks that it’s hard to take entirely seriously.

That said, Damian Loscher makes an interesting point in the Irish Times analysis of the poll:

Today’s poll shows no significant change in Labour’s position: the party is only one point lower than its general election result (down to 18 per cent) in overall support. And Eamon Gilmore’s personal satisfaction rating (of 44 per cent) is very much in line with his pre-election ratings. Yet there may be some early signs that the party could fall between the two stools of Government and Opposition. First, Gilmore has ceded the title of most popular party leader to Kenny. Second, the gap between Fine Gael and Labour has widened, with Labour now on a par with Fianna Fáil.

That’s not huge news, but if Fianna Fáil begins to rise above Labour it might be indicative of some slight resurgence in popularity. Intriguing too as to where this increased support is coming from. They shouldn’t quite get out the party hats on Mount Street. As Loscher also notes:

An analysis of today’s poll findings reveals continued weak support for the party among urban voters, especially in Dublin (9 per cent). The party also draws heavily on older (50-plus years) voters for support, a bias that would need correction if the party is to win back the popular vote. Good news can be found for Fianna Fáil among the ABs (those from professional/ upper managerial backgrounds), where the party has recovered some ground, up to 18 per cent support, and ahead of Labour (although still well adrift of Fine Gael, which has the support of 57 per cent of ABs).

And really, the AB votes – if one accepts that blunt instrument of demographic differentiation in electoral analyses at all, something I’m very leery of – or any votes don’t matter one way or another given that Labour remain in government and Fianna Fáil remain outside it.

There’s mention of the Green Party, but only mention.

Sinn Féin remains solidly on 10 per cent [which is actually slightly above its election result]. That in mind Loscher asks a further interesting question:

Almost five months after the election, voters continue to keep faith with the choice they made on February 25th.
These findings raise the question: what happens if voters lose faith (a strong possibility considering the very tough times and tough decisions that lie ahead)?
If the Government fails the test of economic management, where will voters go?

It’s still difficult to say, but it would suggest that that all the components of the opposition might stand to gain which suggests an unpleasant possibility for Fianna Fáil that even if it improves its standing it will be fighting in – for it – new territory where it must compete with formations as popular, or perhaps even more popular, since they will have none of the baggage as regards economic competency of that party.

Though does Loscher hold out hope for a sort of PD redux party in the following closing paragraph?

Unless Fianna Fáil is forgiven, there are no obvious alternative homes for the conservative, middle-class vote. And with nowhere to go, it is most likely that voter frustration will be taken out on one or other of the current parties of Government. Will Labour be blamed for blocking change or Fine Gael for not delivering it? We can’t stay where we are forever.

Perhaps, though I wonder given the pre-eminence of Fine Gael and the reality that this government cleaves to a right of centre approach whether those ‘conservative, middle-class’ votes will stream away from Fine Gael [though how they are meant to ‘take it out’ on Labour is a fascinating question.

Still, isn’t it fascinating that even here the supposed centrality of those conservative middle class voters is given particular significance. What of working class voters who are disillusioned with Labour? But of them, not a mention as to where they might go.

Alan Moore on capitalism… July 25, 2011

Posted by WorldbyStorm in Economy, The Left.

Always had quite some time for the rather grouchy Moore who has produced [or is it co-produced] some remarkable cultural artifacts… but never more so than reading the following in the Guardian in an interview with him

I saw footage of you recently campaigning against the closure of your local library. What are your thoughts on the cuts and the situation we’re in?

AM: I think it’s completely indefensible. I think I understand what has been happening economically, pretty much since the collapse of the Berlin Wall. It’s the bankers and financial institutions who have knowingly got us into this mess. Either they did knowingly or they were unbelievably stupid and incompetent. This is not even capitalism any more. Capitalism employs a rough and ready Darwinian survival of the fittest. The banks have become like monarchies. They are too big to fail, too big to punish. They are above parliament. Banks are treating themselves as if they were a new class of fiscal royalty. The kind of royalty they most resemble is Charles I. He was above parliament and not accountable for his lavishness. He put the pinch upon the country to the point where the poor people simply starved.

No, this cannot be tolerated. You cannot have libraries, schools and things that people need for a basic standard of living taken away while George Osborne is making deals with companies to allow them to make better use of tax havens because they are threatening to take their business elsewhere. There are alternatives. We are not all in this together.

I’m all in favour of anti-cuts demonstrations. And it’s always very pleasing to see so many V for Vendetta masks in the crowd. I’m very proud of those boys and girls.

His point about the banks and capitalism is spot on and an argument that is can be found made by both the left and libertarians of the right. It’s quite some place we find ourselves in.

Orde on Murdoch: A touching analysis. July 25, 2011

Posted by WorldbyStorm in British Politics, Business, Capitalism.

I love this:

Sir Hugh Orde, the president of the Association of Chief Police Officers, has lambasted Rupert Murdoch, saying the chairman of News Corporation had shown a complete denial of responsibility for what had gone on in his company.
He contrasted Murdoch’s behaviour with the leadership shown by Sir Paul Stephenson, the Metropolitan police commissioner who quit last week over his indirect links with former News of the World editors.

It continues:

Speaking on the BBC’s Andrew Marr programme, Orde said “You saw the chief officer of the police service of this country, Sir Paul Stephenson, saying, ‘Look this happened on my watch. I am responsible. I am therefore … It’s on my watch. I am resigning.’ Compare that to Rupert Murdoch – complete denial of any responsibility of his organisation.”

But that’s the point, isn’t it? It is indeed Murdoch’s organization [within certain constraints], whereas Orde is merely, even if made head, a representative of a broader public entity [Addendum, as CMK notes below ACPO is in fact a limited company with an approach that is fairly scarifying, CMK’s link to a Guardian piece by Henry Porter certainly puts it in a stark light. That said we can perhaps be grateful that there is as yet no evidence of dynastic pretensions on the part of Orde].

Orde, who may be the new head of the Metropolitan police, works in a completely somewhat different environment to that of Murdoch, one where his ‘ownership’ is a conceptual rather than an actual thing [I think that bit is fair enough if we’re contrasting ACPO with News International et al].

And any of us who’ve worked long years in the private sector will have come up against the boss who adamantly believes that it is ‘his’ or ‘her’ company to do with as they see fit – and all too often to deal with employees as they see fit.

Perhaps Murdoch will resign, but it’s a curious perception of the psychology of these things, and the nature of business, on Orde’s part.

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