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What You Want to Say? Open Thread 9th February 2012 February 9, 2012

Posted by WorldbyStorm in Uncategorized.

As always, following on Dr. X’s suggestion, it’s all yours, “announcements, general discussion, whatever you choose”, feel free.


1. Starkadder - February 9, 2012

Not sure if this has been mentioned on the CDL before, but
the Occupy Cork protestors who took over a NAMA building
were ordered to leave last week :

A group of protesters occupying a building in the centre of Cork City has been ordered to leave the property on foot of a court injunction secured by the owners.

Two men named as defendants in the action did not have to be injuncted as they gave undertakings to stay out of the six-storey glass-fronted building at 10, 11 and 12 Oliver Plunkett St and 2 Smith St, Cork.

A third defendant, Liam Mullaney, argued that there was a sufficient basis on which the injunction application by Padlake Ltd. should be adjourned to a full hearing of the case at Cork Circuit Court



Crocodile - February 10, 2012

I noticed a vintage clothing shop beside the central bank has a sign asking the occupy camp to leave because they’re ‘putting 50 jobs at risk’. Are they really so bad for business?


EamonnDublin - February 10, 2012

Frank has always been a wanker so his posters are only a publicity scam


2. Julian Assandwich - February 9, 2012

I think it would be mature if we identified who the author of that SWP bulletin was and consider what bet he lost to write it.


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4. EamonnCork - February 10, 2012

I wonder if anyone could help me?
I’m looking for something on the lives of Irish farm labourers in the 20th century and wonder if there’s a book, article, programme on the subject which anyone could recommend?


WorldbyStorm - February 10, 2012

Fergus Campbell’s work deals with this, EC. Well worth a look if you haven’t seen it already.


bartholomew - February 10, 2012

The Limerick Rural Survey, published by Muintir na Tire in 1964, has material about the living conditions of farm labourers and their relationship with their employers – not eating at the same table, sleeping in outhouses etc.


EamonnCork - February 10, 2012

I’ll check those out. Thanks Wbs and Bartholomew.


bartholomew - February 10, 2012

Also on labourers’ organisations: Emmet O’Connor’s ‘Labour History of Ireland’ and Dan Bradley’s ‘Farm Labourers’


Tel - February 11, 2012

Very much early c.20th, and probably only typical to the West, but very good also, is Children of the Dead End, the autobiographical novel by Patrick McGill – which covers his experience of hiring fairs and working for farmers as a live-in labourer. I’m sure Saothar carried something of the 1947 farm labour disputes in Kildare (and possibly also Meath or Dublin)


ivorthorne - February 11, 2012

On a tangent but somewhat related: I overheard a conversation the other day where a lady was telling a friend about some Irish man who lives in Australia who was supposed to appear on the Late Late to tell his story about how he was “adopted” by a family who used him for slave labour. She said some injunction stopped him from appearing.

Apparently, this wasn’t entirely uncommon. Has anybody got any information on this?


5. Mark P - February 10, 2012

I’m told that more than 30 locals turned out to leaflet Donaghmede in the rain tonight for the Household Tax Campaign.


6. Julian Assandwich - February 10, 2012

With all this independent bashing, I’d like to let any ULA independent know, as always, they can get in touch with their fellow independents across the country. Just throw an email to weareragbags@gmail.com and say hello. We’re all trying to get to know each other, isolated as we are, and share our experiences, concerns and proposals.


WorldbyStorm - February 10, 2012



7. CL - February 10, 2012

Maids in New York City join the ‘middle class.’

“So labor unions are supposed to be dead or dying, huh?

Well, somebody forgot to tell Peter Ward, head of New York City’s hotel workers union.

Ward managed to secure a new labor pact this week for his 30,000 members that is so astounding, the AFL-CIO ought to build a statue in his honor.

As you might expect, the contract has enraged the corporate talking heads on cable TV.

Why should hotel housekeepers in New York City be allowed to make nearly $60,000 a year, the talking heads want to know.

What is this world coming to, they lament, when lowly dishwashers, room attendants and waiters can wrangle company-paid health insurance, along with dental, prescription, optical and drug coverage — all with no co-pays and no premiums.”


8. ejh - February 10, 2012

Have you all been treated to any accounts of Michael O’Leary’s adventures last week with Spanair?


9. irishelectionliterature - February 10, 2012

I see that there’s no place for James McClean in the Irish Squad for the friendly against the Czech Republic.


Joe - February 10, 2012

Trapp is nothing if not loyal. Who out of the 24 he has chosen for this squad will not make the 23 he will bring to Poland?
I think the media does McClean a disservice when they label him exciting. Trapp don’t do exciting. James and the others will have to wait till after Euro 2012 and a few retirements.
In other news, Stephen Ireland’s girfriend has said that all it would take is one phonecall and Stephen would be back on board. Trapp’s problem is he doesn’t know whether he should phone Stephen or his mott.


10. Conor McCabe - February 10, 2012

Gilmore was busy in the States – while he was there he declared a government of national unity – http://dublinopinion.com/2012/02/10/gilmore-declares-government-of-national-unity/

Would have been nice if he told ULA, Sinn Fein, Fianna Fail etc….


WorldbyStorm - February 10, 2012

A bizarre thing of him to say. There’s a real element of losing the run of themseves, isn’t there?


11. maddurdu - February 10, 2012

Well the Greek government of ‘national unity’ seems to be unravelling..



12. Eve - February 12, 2012

Inaugural meeting of reading group on the origins of capitalism in early modern Europe (i.e. c. 1500 – c. 1800).

On Saturday March 3rd we are discussing Ellen Meiksins Wood’s ‘The Origin of Capitalism: A longer view’, the core chapters of which are probably The Agrarian Origin of Capitalism and Agrarian Capitalism and Beyond. Further to that texts by Brenner and Polanyi have been proposed.

Meeting at 1 pm in a central Dublin location, contact evejennifercampbell (at) yahoo.com for further details.


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