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Jonathan Kelly – Irish folk singer June 22, 2014

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A very welcome post from rockroots of Rock Roots!

Jonathan Kelly will be familiar to some of you as the Irish folk singer who made waves in Britain in the first half of the 1970s, following an apprenticeship on the Dublin scene in the previous decade. His absence from the charts, and his disappearance after 1976, has hidden his story from the mainstream while at the same time fostered a cult following for the handful of albums he recorded. To call him a folk singer is to miss the broad progression of his style, from whimsical pop through lush folk and unexpectedly delving into funk rock late in his career. One characteristic of his song-writing, which remained remarkably consistent through all these changes, was his finely tuned social conscience. As frontman of The Boomerangs in 1966, at a time when his contemporaries were singing about lovely girls and hucklebucks, Jonathan’s first single, ‘Dream World’, instead looked at Cold War tensions and the hope that “east and west did reunite / and Mars did cease his endless flight.” Earnest without being pretentious, Jonathan’s lyrics became increasingly angry and political during the next decade before abruptly halting at the peak of his talents. There’s more to his story which can be found elsewhere, but this article will look at his still-relevant and still-stirring lyrics on war, religion and inequality.

Jonathan Kelly was really Jonathan Ledingham from Drogheda. Although he never addressed it directly during his recording career, it seems his experience as a Protestant growing up in a Catholic state left him somewhat alienated and perhaps gave him an outsider’s perspective. At the end of 2013 a new CD collected demo versions of unreleased songs recorded during his years in musical exile. One of these songs, ‘Eileen’, recounts the pressure of having to separate from an early sweetheart because of religion: “I was your secret boyfriend when you were just seventeen. / Eileen, my sister was right when she said we could never be, / I was all in orange and you were all in green” (incidentally, Jonathan’s manager informs me that he is still trying to track down the long-lost Eileen, who worked at a department store in Dublin). Another recent song, ‘I Wanted To Be’, states: “I lived in a land where I never belonged, / where I was mistreated and where I was wronged.” He added in a 2006 interview, “I just looked around the world as a young man, I saw all the institutions that I was told to revere, religious institutions and nationalist institutions, and I saw so much hypocrisy and so much self-pleasing and so much violence and hatred” and “I began to question the rather racist teachings that I received from older people in my growing and nurturing environment regarding people of other races who were meant to be inferior, that certain nations were better than others and that war is justified.” Finding an outlet in Rock & Roll, Jonathan played guitar or drums in several short-lived bands, including The Saracens and The Boomerangs. Already influenced by protest singers like Bob Dylan, Jon Ledingham embarked on a solo career with his 1967 single ‘Without An E’ (the odd title apparently refers to the lack of an E string on his guitar) and ‘Love Is A Toy’ in 1968, also writing songs for Johnny McEvoy, The Johnstons and The Greenbeats. The B-side of ‘Love Is A Toy’ was ‘Thank You Mrs. Gilbert’, a jaunty anti-war song worthy of Donovan, in which an army officer writes a letter to the mother of a new recruit: “He says that he is fighting for peace throughout the world. / It’s an interesting thought, though it’s really quite absurd. / He’ll soon find out the reason why we have so many wars. / Without them our economy would fall right through the floor.”

At this point Jonathan’s career entered another phase. Although popular in Dublin, where he often played in Liberty Hall, he decided like so many other Irish acts that there were limited opportunities in Ireland, and after a farewell concert in the Gresham Hotel in 1968 he moved to London, where he was playing in a hotel in 1969 when he was spotted by Colin Petersen, the soon-to-be-fired drummer of The Bee Gees. Colin offered to produce him, with his wife Joanne Petersen becoming Jonathan’s manager. He adopted the surname Kelly, perhaps (as with Eire Apparent) to use his Irishness as a selling point. A deal with Parlophone was quickly followed by the single ‘Denver’, with the B-side the heartbreaking ‘Son Jon’, in which worried parents reach out to their faraway son. Colin called in some of his industry contacts for the follow-up single ‘Make A Stranger Your Friend’, recorded in January 1970 by a chorus including Spike Milligan, Peter Sellers, Mick Taylor, Klaus Voorman, Madeline Bell, Carl Wayne and members of The Family Dogg. The well-intentioned song asked, “How can it matter what country I’m from? / What colour’s my skin? To what faith I belong? / If all the world were one nation, one people, one race, / there’d be no-one to say ‘man, you’re in the wrong place’”. Jonathan described it as “just about ending human conflicts and racism. Racism is the ugliest face of mankind that people express.” As part of the promotion, management asked Jonathan to write letters to Ian Paisley and Enoch Powell pleading for tolerance.

The next single in a busy 1970 was ‘Don’t You Believe It’, a song about the hypocrisy of parental morality which featured Eric Clapton. Tim Staffell attempted to recreate Clapton’s part for a live Top of the Pops appearance. Staffell had been bass player and singer with London band Smile but had since left and been replaced by Freddie Mercury as the group evolved into Queen. As none of these singles charted, Petersen’s next move was to form a trio of himself, Kelly and Staffell, named ‘Humpy Bong’ after an Australian school he attended with the Gibb brothers. The group recorded one single and another Top of the Pops appearance before fizzling out. Jonathan’s self-titled debut album featured many of the earlier single sides, including a new version of ‘Mrs. Gilbert’, and was a mixture of protest and pop. Among the new tracks was ‘That Grand Old Uniform Of Mine’, written from the viewpoint of a conscripted soldier: “If only everyone from home would write me everyday, / when I return I can kid myself I’ve never been away, / and that’s the day I’ll celebrate and watch the flames grow higher / from that damned old uniform of mine.”

The contract with Parlophone ended here and Jonathan spent 1971 gigging and writing before returning with the ‘Twice Around The Houses’ LP, released on RCA in 1972 (after a deal with Warner Brothers fell through). His writing had matured greatly in this short time and tracks like ‘Madeleine’, ‘Sligo Fair’ and the wonderful ‘Ballad Of Cursed Anna’ would prove to be some of his most popular and enduring songs. Elsewhere, ‘We Are The People’ contained his most directly political lyrics to date: “Do you hear the brass band playing? / Do you hear the tramp of feet? / Twenty thousand working men / are coming down the street. / Will you listen to what they’re saying? / Will you listen to their song? / One man may not be right / but can all of these be wrong?” It has been suggested that the lines “now I hear the prison walls / are growing without relief / for locking up people without a trial, / jailed for their beliefs” are in reference to internment in Northern Ireland at the time, although Kelly’s political standpoint was by now more concerned with radical socialism rather than nationalism or patriotism, which he equated with “bloodshed and violence”. In the frantic ‘The Train Song’ he seems to takes a subtle dig at religion with the line “I was friends with the vicar, his mother and son, / till one day I rolled up with a time machine gun / and blew them all back to around 20 BC / to show them the traitors that they’d turn out to be.”

Ballad Of Cursed Anna:

We Are The People:

The Train Song:

1973’s ‘Wait Till They Change The Backdrop’ continued in the same style, blending ballads like ‘Down On Me’, the folk fairy-tale ‘Godas’, and more pointed material such as ‘Turn Your Eye On Me’, in which he characterises political leaders who, forty years later, are still sadly familiar: “Heard of a man, lost in his notions, / sent out his bombers far across the oceans / to kill and to maim his brothers and sisters. / What you doin’? What you doin’ to me, mister? // You make the poor on this world pay / for how you live and what you say. / Only time you make your move / is when your business friends approve.” ‘Turn Your Eye On Me’, ‘Down On Me’ and other tracks on this album notably featured Gary Moore on guitar. After this it was time for another change in direction. Quoted in ‘The Bee Gees: Tales Of The Brothers Gibb. (2009), Kelly recalls separating from his management: “Colin and Joanne were different to me; different, different, different! They loved the fame and glory and being in the midst of the pop industry. I hated the pop industry actually. I saw it as totally ruthless and callous.” He goes on to recount an incident where a restaurant owner was giving his partisan opinions on the Arab-Israeli conflict to Kelly and the Petersens: “they weren’t political at all, I don’t think they thought politically. I did! I couldn’t help it, and this guy was talking all this racism at my table… I said, ‘Can you please go away from this table’. I will not sit joined to somebody who is talking racial hatred… But I was awkward and a troublemaker and I understand from their point of view that was a real problem.”

Godas:

To mark his new direction he formed the group ‘Jonathan Kelly’s Outside’, with Chas Jankel (later of Ian Dury & The Blockheads) on lead guitar, Trevor Williams on bass and Dave Sheen on drums. Perhaps surprisingly, it’s The Blockheads’ gritty British funk that bears the closest resemblance to the music of ‘Outside’ (although Jankel was replaced by Snowy White, later of Thin Lizzy and Pink Floyd, before their album was completed). In fact, Jonathan had been nurturing a love of funk music for some time and cites Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder, Herbie Hancock, Miles Davies, Curtis Mayfield, Sly & The Family Stone and Funkadelic as big influences on this period of his career. Released in early 1974, ‘…Waiting On You’ (a personal favourite) features an inner illustration by Tim Staffell and some wonderfully passionate funk rock on tracks like ‘Sensation Street’ as well as the plaintive, Van Morrison-esque, ‘Great Northern Railroad’. It also marked the high point of Jonathan’s social commentary. ‘Misery’ takes on workers’ rights and predicts revolution: “Working all our lives / getting coal dust in our eyes / spending all the days God gives us underground. / We can’t live on what you pay. / You make us strike so you can say / ‘They’re beggars trying to bring this nation down’.” ‘Tell Me People’, meanwhile, scornfully confronts a range of issues, from war (“The leaders watch you fight it out but their blood never spills. / Think of all the children, born of love, their hatred kills. / Tell me people, ‘specially brothers, what are you gonna do? / You gonna let those sons of darkness make a killer out of you?”), religion (“Tell me preacher, what is your plan? / Is it really for Jesus Christ that you stand? / You say that love is infinite and all souls are as one, / but then you preach division in the pulpit Sunday morn. / Remember when your leader kicked the short change across the floor? / Today the church is wealthy but the people still are poor.”) and poverty (“Someone tells you charity is better kept at home, / so you set up all your boundaries and you keep it for your own. / By day you serve the nation and you cause prosperity. / By night you sit at home and watch the famine on TV.”).

Great Northern Railroad:

Misery:

Tell Me People:

Despite the quality on offer, the album wasn’t a success, largely because his existing fan-base and the music press were expecting another folk album. By this time Jonathan had developed a drug habit that was taking a toll on his health, his judgement and his performances. Nevertheless, he seems to look back very fondly on the camaraderie of touring with a band and the excitement of playing music that people could dance to. On tour, ‘Outside’ comprised Kelly, Sheen, White, Tim Staffell on backing vocals and percussion, Kuma Harada on bass and Darryl Lee Que on congas. Kelly also became involved with Gerry Healy’s Workers Revolutionary Party, which at that point was actively recruiting high-profile converts such as actors Vanessa Redgrave, Corin Redgrave and Frances de la Tour. Today, he explains, “I saw the sad victims in the parts of the world not favoured by the current world-dominant economic system. Because they were outside the pale they were deprived or they weren’t meant to benefit from Earth’s resources as much as others were… I’m thinking, there’s a lot wrong here, and some people thought it was fine, that’s the way it is. I couldn’t deal with that, I couldn’t let myself off the hook so easy. I could see that the way that the economic system is structured is to favour those favoured by the economic system, so that was very self-serving, and I could see how much damage and carnage it produced as a result. I could only think that the only way that the world was going to be put to rights is if the power was wrested out of the hands of those who had shown such disregard for humanity and for the survival of the planet, and the ecology, and this whole beautiful planet. I thought that’s the only way, so I became a communist.” The breaking point for his involvement with the WRP was when he was told he should be prepared for armed revolution, something incompatible with his pacifist principles. Jonathan recorded one more solo LP, the rather subdued ‘Two Days In Winter’ in 1975, with some of his former bandmates and a cover design by Staffell. The fragile album reverted to gentler styles, including an unsubtle ode to ‘Mary Jane’.

Mary Jane:

At a low ebb personally and financially, and disillusioned with both politics and the music industry, Jonathan lost interest in performing in 1976 and took a job in a London record store, although his official website (which preserves a vast array of photos, clippings and flyers from his time in Drogheda and Dublin) notes that he played drums for the group ‘Instant Whip’ in the Phoenix Park around this time with Tim Booth, Ed Deane and Steve Bullock. Looking back on his time as a professional musician via the same website, Jonathan reflects, “I hated capitalism. How could an artist do his work for monetary reward? Art is unselfish and seeks no reward save the joy of creating works of art that are honest and innocent of greed and done only to add beauty and reason to our beautiful earthly home.” Jonathan recalls what happened next: “A man came to my door and said ‘I’m looking to talk with people who’d like to see a change in the world. What I mean is, an end to war and poverty and hunger. Do those things concern you?’ I said, ‘Come in.’” Despite his previous animosity – “I certainly didn’t think religion had any answer, in fact, like many people say today, I saw religious institutions of the world as being the most reprehensible element in the whole universe, for the hypocrisy of them.” – Jonathan became a Jehovah’s Witness and found some of the peace of mind he had been looking for. “You see, when you find the answer to all your questions, why go on searching anymore?” As Jonathan Ledingham, he started a family and a carpet cleaning business in rural England. He effectively vanished until tracked down by long-time fan Gerald Sables in 2002, who reconnected him with his die-hard fans and persuaded him to come out of retirement for a series of small solo acoustic shows between 2004 and 2008, following which he returned to his private life.

This renewed activity, and CD reissues of Kelly’s RCA albums, led to talk of a new Jonathan Kelly studio album, but as those plans seem to have been put on ice, the ‘Home Demos’ collection was released a few months ago with demos of the new songs recorded over recent years. On these, Jonathan’s youthful rage has largely given way to contemplation of life experiences. In ‘I’ve Been Down That Road You’re On’, he remembers, “So you join the revolution, you’re tired of sitting on the fence, / you never did like the bourgeoisie and all their fake pretence / so you join the cause for freedom and you start setting up some tents / and learning the philosophy and it all makes so much sense / till your friend comes ’round and says ‘here’s your guns and armaments’ / and you turn around to him and say I didn’t know there’d be violence.” Yet there remain flashes of his earlier moral outrage; in ‘No Words’ he describes seeing a man accused on TV of treachery to his country, and the ‘poisoned words’ used to condemn him: “I thought about that man, that revolutionary, / and his defiance in the face of a nations animosity, / and I thought of his accusers, seemed like church folk to me, / singing hymns and praying on bended knee, / and reading their bible and their liturgy, / but I don’t think they’ve learned a single thing, you see.” It seems that Jonathan’s current faith is based more on making a positive contribution to society through voluntary work than on joining the conformist establishment he had railed against in his youth; rather than doing a simple about-turn on religion he retains his deep ethical principles. Sables recounts that one of Jonathan’s oldest friends once remarked to him that “Jonathan was the most well balanced person I ever met….. he had a chip on both shoulders!” When asked if this was true, Jonathan replied, “Oh Yeah!…Still is!”

With thanks to Gerald Sables.

http://www.jonathankelly.co.uk/index.html

http://home.lyse.net/mott/love_staffell.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Kelly

http://www.aylesburyfriars.co.uk/interviewsjonathankelly.html

http://fromthesummerhouse.wordpress.com/2012/09/16/songbook-jonathan-kelly-making-it-lonely/

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1. Joe - June 23, 2014

Excellent. Fascinating. Never heard of Jonathan Kelly/Ledingham before. A young Protestant in Drogheda growing up alienated from the Catholic dogmatically dominated Free State. Who knew?
Fascinating life story. Hope he’s well and happy still. I remember canvassing a very, cheery woman who was talking to her neighbour over the fence, years ago. I offered her the candidate’s leaflet and she laughed and said “Sorry, I don’t vote, I’m a Jehovah’s witness, we believe in God’s kingdom here on earth. But I’ll give the leaflet to my husband.” Maybe it’s the way to go… although I did read about a split some years back and the way the centre treated the splitters didn’t seem very nice.

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Mark P - June 26, 2014

The JW’s are of theological interest primarily because they are so different in beliefs from the endless number of hard line Protestant sects which appear outwardly very similar. They are not Trinitarians and do not believe in the divinity of Christ, which arguably puts them almost as far from other Christian outfits as Islam is.

On a less doctrinally concerned level, two friends of mine have had (for unrelated reasons) considerable experience of the JWs through their families and are very hostile to them as a result. The one who was actually raised in a JW family hates them with a furious passion.

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2. rockroots - June 25, 2014

I didn’t know that Joe, does it suggest a certain aloofness from the rest of society, I wonder?

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Joe - June 26, 2014

They are not the only sect that don’t vote. (Plymouth) Brethren are another, afaik. Aloofness from the rest of society? I guess being a member of one of these smallish Christian sects separates you to some extent from the rest of society – don’t know if aloofness is the right word. Some of them go in for communal activity such as communal barn raising and church building – a kind of attitude of if we need something done, we’ll just get together and do it and not look for or wait for help from the state or wherever. Maybe like Marx’s idea of real communism, post the state withering away.
Just noticing there that I talked about small Christian sects and referred to Brethren and Jehovah’s Witnesses. I read a great memoir of a chap who grew up as a member of the Brethren in the north (“Told in Gath” was the name of the book). And in it he said that the Brethren would be of the opinion that the Jehovahs’ beliefs were so outlandish that they weren’t Christian at all. He had a neat sense of humour. He said Brethren might describe the relative Christianity of any group by comparing it to a dartboard. The bullseye was the Brethren themselves, the 25 ring then would be the Baptists and so on out via Presbyterians and Methodists to the Church of Ireland who would be on the outside ring of the board. I think he said that the Catholics and the Jehovahs would be off the board altogether.

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rockroots - June 26, 2014

I understand the Amish also don’t vote (although presumably they have to pay taxes, etc.).

I have a number of relatives who are members and ex-members of the Plymouth/Exclusive Brethren and if you’re talking about horror stories about the treatment of ex-members you need look no further than there. Thanks for the mention of the book though, I’m very interested in fundamentalist groups like the Brethren and the Cooneyites that sprang up in Ireland in the nineteenth century but have largely disappeared by now. I haven’t yet found a good book investigating these groups.

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Joe - June 26, 2014

“Told in Gath”. The chap that wrote it was a lecturer I think in Northern Ireland. He dropped out from the Brethern around his late teens. The title was a riff on their practice of learning the Bible inside out as kids. They’d be testing each other out, quoting Old Testament stuff and seeing who knew the next line etc. So one piece somewhere starts off with the line: “Tell it not in Gath….”. And yer man said he never knew what or where was Gath but he decided it would make a good title.
Yep, I’ve heard of the Cooneyites. There was a historical controversy about a killing during the War of Independence there a while back. In Offaly I think. People on here will know the proper name of the place – was it Shanagarry? The chap that was shot by the IRA as an informer (alternative version is that it was a sectarian killing) was a Cooneyite iirc. The family emigrated to Australia not long after.

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Joe - June 27, 2014

Not Shanagarry. Coolacrease.

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sonofstan - October 19, 2014

Just seeing this now, thanks to the revive – just to bring it back to music; the two Rowan brothers in the Virgin Prunes, Derek/ Guggi and Trevor, were brought up as Brethren. The whole Lipton Village mythology that they as teenagers along with the future U2 came up with always seemed like a mirror -or parody- of sect-life.

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rockroots - October 21, 2014

Just to jump back into this ancient thread, as a kid in the 80s I would cycle around to the home of a school-friend whose family were Cooneyite. Their religion forbade TV and radios, though not cars or farm machinery, and strongly discouraged women from cutting their hair or dressing ‘immodestly’. At the time, none of that seemed very remarkable, we’d spend hours playing Mouse Trap or Hungry Hippoes. It must get increasingly difficult to maintain those rules in the internet age though, I would think.

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Joe - January 11, 2016

And jumping back in again – this is one of those threads that keep on giving. I have a friend who grew up around Synge St (I think) and his best friend (in the early seventies I’d guess) was Jewish. His pal made sure my friend would call around every Saturday so my friend could turn on the telly in his house and they could watch Saturday sport together. Saturday was the Sabbath and the Jewish thing was that they were forbidden from switching on the telly but not from watching it if someone else switched it on!
Behan in Borstal Boy hears a story from an English inmate about how he used to have it off with a married Jewish woman when he’d call around to her house to light the fire on a Saturday. Yer man then catches Behan telling the same story (except with him as the hero so to speak) to another inmate later on.

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rockroots - January 12, 2016

Yeah, my friend’s granny grew up somewhere around the Liberties – as a kid she would go into the Jewish quarter on the Sabbath, let herself into their houses and do their chores for them, and there would be a penny waiting for her for her trouble.

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3. Jonathan Kelly – Jonathan Kelly | Rock Roots: The Irish Rock Music Archive - June 26, 2014

[…] Jonathan Kelly – Irish Folk Singer […]

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Anne Flynn.(Boulting) - October 19, 2014

As someone who knew Jonathan ,in Dublin in 1963—1972,I am
delighted to hear he is still writing songs.I started a fan club for
him.Anne Flynn.

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rockroots - October 21, 2014

Anne – if you haven’t already, I’m certain the guys at the official website would love to hear from you. It’s the first link at the end of the article.

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4. james ruddy - June 13, 2015

As a teenager, i saw Jonathan perfirm in his uniquely endearing style at folk clubs in Gainsborough, Lincolnshire, and in Doncaster in the 70s and i was hooked – enough to buy each of the albums. So were many of my cobtemporsries. He must have thousands of fans niw in their fIfties. Time to put his new material with a major company?

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5. LYNN - December 26, 2015

REALLY INTERESTING READING THROUGH THIS, I KNEW JONATHAN DURING THE LATE SIXTIES / 70’S AND EVEN BOOKED HIM FOR A CONCERT AT A SCHOOL FOLK CLUB I RAN. HIS LYRICS WERE / ARE SO MEANINGFUL AND REFLECT HIS VALUES AND BELIEFS, WHICH PERSONALLY I AGREE WITH. IF JONATHAN HAS CHOSEN DIFFERENT OPTIONS WELL WTF. THAT’S HIS CHOICE AND HE OBVIOUSLY HAS REASONS WHICH WE / OTHERS MUST RESPECT. JUST BE THANKFUL FOR THE CONTRIBUTION HE HAS MADE TO MUSIC, AND RESPECT HIS REASONS FOR NOT BEING AROUND AT THE MOMENT. ALSO IF YOU’RE LUCKY ENOUGH TO HAVE HIS MUSIC ENJOY AND LISTEN. RESPECT HE HAS STUCK BY HIS VALUES. XX

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6. Vincent - January 11, 2016

Hi there….remembering your gig at the Country Club…supporting Bowie on this sad day.
You played a blinder

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7. Jonathan Kelly | Rock Roots: The Irish Rock Music Archive - April 28, 2018

[…] Sad news from the world of Jonathan Kelly, one of Ireland’s best and most under-appreciated musical exports; Jonathan has been suffering from “a very aggressive form of dementia” for some time and no longer recognises some of his closest friends. See/Hear my take on the music and complicated character of Jonathan Kelly Ledingham, written as a guest post on the Cedar Lounge Revolution back in 2014, here: Jonathan Kelly – Irish folk singer. […]

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8. Pat Thornton - December 27, 2018

Hi to all the Jonathan Kelly fans. I was born in Drogheda, Jonathan’s home town also. I could be wrong about religion, but I really don’t think religion was an issue between catholic and protesants growing up in southern ireland, at least I never felt animosity between the two religions, maybe some other individual could throw some light on the subject? My mum sent us out to church on Sunday, we didn’t go, we went over to the protestant school and played cards in the bicycle shed until it was time to go home for the dinner. I could go on and on as it was a great time to be a teenager listening to all the brilliant music and going to the Hop on a Thursday Night. I lived in Patrick Street and Jonathan lived in Trinity Gardens just two to three minutes walk to his house. http://www.djpatthornton.ie

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Joe - December 27, 2018

Pat, I’d be pretty sure you’re right about religion not being an issue between catholic and protestants growing up in southern Ireland. Certainly very little of an issue, if an issue at all.
I’d say I over egged the pudding somewhat with that comment back in 2014 – “A young Protestant in Drogheda growing up alienated from the Catholic dogmatically dominated Free State. Who knew?”
The original piece puts it like this “it seems his experience as a Protestant growing up in a Catholic state left him somewhat alienated and perhaps gave him an outsider’s perspective.” Which is fine – any slight difference can potentially give someone an outsider’s perspective. But blowing that up into ‘alienated from the Catholic dogmatically dominated Free State’ was more than a bit of a stretch.

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rockroots - December 27, 2018

Not an issue in the sense of direct confrontation, but when I was researching this with Jonathan’s friend/manager (Jonathan is suffering from advanced dementia, as has since been made public knowledge), he specifically mentioned the isolation of being the only Protestant on a Catholic street. I can attest to that, and add things like going to a different school to all your neighbours, not playing the same sports, etc. And just the broader sense of being in a state which is infused with the majority religion (wondering what the angelus, first communion ceremonies, etc. are all about). I’d expect it would be similar for members of small minorities in many states around the world.

Outright hostility would be rare, though not unheard of. The story behind ‘Eileen’ was that her Catholic family insisted they separate because he was Protestant. But mixed relationships were discouraged by both communities until recent decades.

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Joe - December 27, 2018

Cheers RockRoots. All good and valid points.

Did you ever get a hold of ‘Told in Gath’ btw?

Also, I saw Newton Emerson referencing the Brethren community in Portadown in one of his IT columns a little while back. He described the double life of his Brethren contemporaries, having a pint or two with him in the local and then going home to their parents and being, for all intents and purpose, good Brethren. I think he reckoned that everyone (parents etc) acquiesced in the deceit.
Things change with the generations and often for the better!

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Pat Thornton - December 27, 2018

I am just so delighted to have found out about all this information about Jonathan. Do you know when you are searching for a song or an album only find out it is out of print? so you write it in your book saying I will keep it in mind only to forget it and the annoying part is, it gets a second release and you don’t pick it up as you have forgotten so you miss it once again. Jonathan came into my mind today when I was in Facebook so I couldn’t believe there was so much info on the man as I searched a couple of years ago only to find absolutely nothing, it was as if Jonathan fell of a cliff. In an earlier comment, I stated that Jonathan came from Trinity Gardens in Drogheda, please let me know if the address of the street is fact

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rockroots - December 28, 2018

I never did find that book, Joe, but I will renew my efforts. In the last year, a 4th or 5th cousin in New Zealand was summoned to the death-bed of his mother – she hadn’t spoken to him in 30 years since he left the Brethren but wanted to see him once more. I suppose that’s progress? The guy’s twin brother refused to meet him though. Maybe some sects are a bit looser than others.

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rockroots - December 28, 2018

Pat – I don’t know the specifics of where Jon grew up, I unfortunately was too late to make contact before his illness took hold. You can contact his ex-manager through the official website and he might be able to answer that question. http://www.jonathankelly.co.uk/

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Joe - December 28, 2018

There you go RR https://www.publishersweekly.com/978-0-85640-439-9.
Available I’m sure on Amazon and Book Depository. You’d swear I was the man’s agent!

As for your cousins in NZ, there’s nowt as queer as folk.

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