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Workers’ Party Statement on Situation in Greece July 2, 2015

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The Workers’ Party of Ireland expresses its solidarity with the people of Greece in the struggle against austerity and the humanitarian crisis it has wrought.

We condemn the actions of the EU-IMF-ECB Troika and the continuing efforts to bleed the Greek working class dry by transferring wealth from the workers of Greece to pay for the capitalist crisis. These developments take place in the context of a serious crisis within the capitalist system and the intensification of imperialist competition.

The Workers’ Party expresses its profound disgust at the actions and interventions of the Irish government which has ruthlessly pursued an agenda of austerity, privatisation and protection of the bondholders to the detriment of the Irish working class. It comes as no surprise to see this government play the role of enthusiastic cheerleader for the demand for ever-harsher austerity to be imposed on the people of Greece.

This posturing rings hollow in the ears of the hundreds of thousands unemployed, those forced to emigrate in search of work, those suffering from cuts to healthcare and other public services, those in precarious and under-paid work and those subjected to water taxes and the universal social charge.

Cuts in public services, privatisations and the sale of state assets, job losses, pay cuts and other attacks on the quality of life of workers are for the benefit of the capitalist class. There are always powerful forces supportive of such policies, members of the economic, financial and political elites that dominate individual countries and the whole world. There are political forces in every country willing and often eager to do their bidding, including in Ireland and Greece.

The attacks on the living standards of workers across Europe to bail out the bankers and the speculators are not accidental. They are not the whim of malicious politicians or sadistic individual bankers. They are inherent in the very system of capitalism which ensures that governments are run in the interests of the ruling class and the monopolies. Capitalism, whatever its manifestation, is a system of exploitation which cannot be repaired. The WPI recognises that the capitalist class adjusts its tactics and reorganises its alliances in the struggle for the preservation of its power and interests.

We support the struggle of Greek workers against the vicious attacks on their quality of life by the capitalist system under the mantra of austerity. Whether those attacks take place in the name of the Troika or of the Greek government, the results are the same – a deepening of the humanitarian crisis affecting Greek society and an increase in the power of the monopolies. Austerity is austerity, an attack on the working class, no matter who implements it.

We salute and send our solidarity to our comrades in the KKE confident that they, with their long wealth of experience and analysis, will continue the struggle on behalf of the working people, youth, pensioners, unemployed and poor of Greece. We know that they will continue the struggle to defend the quality of life for workers and to pose the socialist alternative in Greece in the months and years ahead.

The struggle to defend the interests of the working class continues in Ireland, in Greece and across the world – for democracy, for liberation from exploitation and oppression; for the protection of workers’ rights; for social justice; for solidarity; for the building of a society in which the “free development of each is the condition for the free development of all” – for socialism.

No to Austerity! Solidarity with the Working People of Greece!

International Section

Central Executive Committee

Workers’ Party of Ireland

01 July 2015

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1. roddy - July 2, 2015

So some outfit on 5% of the Greek vote is going to sort the whole thing out.

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LeftAtTheCross - July 2, 2015

What, like SF who were until recently on around 5% do you mean?

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que - July 3, 2015

Yes but Sinn Fein are no longer on 5% are they.
The KKE have pretty much the same support today after years of grinding abuse of Greek society that they had years ago.

No there contribution to the Oxi referendum is to say no to the govt proposal. It’s legalistic to say that they also oppose the troika so actually they are calling for a yes.

A shower of wasters they are. Conclusions need to be drawn. The KKE are a blocking force not a dynamic force that will bring about deep societal change.

One thing that is sure is that Greece won’t be changed by the KKE waving their flags and marching up and down hills fulminating about everything and waiting.

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2. ar scáth a chéile - July 2, 2015

Yep KKE are goina help the situation by urging a spoiled vote,making a Yes more likely, Heroes

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LeftAtTheCross - July 2, 2015

Well this post is actually about a WP statement rather than a KKE statement.

The KKE’s own statement on the referendum is here:

http://inter.kke.gr/en/articles/The-referendum-on-the-5th-of-July-and-the-stance-of-the-KKE/

It includes the line “NO TO THE PROPOSAL OF THE EU-IMF-ECB” and then continues with “NO TO THE PROPOSAL OF THE GOVERNMENT”. As the referendum on Sunday is only asking the Greek people to vote on the first of these it would seem logical to assume that the KKE is saying to vote NO in the referendum and also cast a second vote using their own ballots for a rejection of the government approach also.

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que - July 3, 2015

Yes but of course the deferral to the KKE analysis means its as much about the KKE position and its inadequacies

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3. roddy - July 2, 2015

I dont think SF on 5% would have tried to undermine a credible organisation like Syriza when they were up against it.

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4. Jolly Red Giant - July 2, 2015

Three cheers to the WP for backing the sectarian nut jobs in the KKE.

I have always had time and respect for the WP over the years – particularly when they told DeRossa and the other opportunists to f-off. But praising their ‘comrades’ in the KKE – the respect is gone straight out the window.

Forget the past ties to this nutty Stalinist party and have the bottle to back an Oxi vote.

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LeftAtTheCross - July 2, 2015

“I have always had time and respect for the WP over the years…”

Really? Really?? I’ve been reading the CLR on and off for about 6 years now and I’m really pushed to see any evidence of you saying anything positive about the WP. As for your comment about “sectarian nut jobs”, well as we used to say in the school yard many years ago, it takes one to know one. Utterly predictable concern trolling JRG, must try harder in future.

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Jolly Red Giant - July 2, 2015

With all due respect LATC – i have criticised the WP in the past but have always done so in a respectful fashion. If you have any evidence to the contrary then please produce it.

The KKE have adopted an utterly sectarian position in relation to SYRIZA over the past number of years. Their position on the referendum is rooted in their sectarianism towards SYRIZA and is playing rights into the hands of the elites. Nothing surprising here given the KKE history of backing right-wing governments.

The WP should have rejected the KKE’s position on the referendum and backed the No campaign of the rest of the political left. Instead they have opted to back their ‘comrades’ and their utterly nutty sectarian antics. That is the type of stidity that results in a loss of respect.

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LeftAtTheCross - July 2, 2015

“The WP should…” is not the language of respect, in fairness.

You have your politics, the WP has its politics, they’re not the same, and no amount of “should” expressed in a blog comment in the CLR is going to change that reality.

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Jolly Red Giant - July 2, 2015

LATC – did you miss the bit where I said I lost respect for the WP when they chose to back anti-worker referendum stance of the sectarian nut jobs in the KKE.

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benmadigan - July 2, 2015

here are so many reasone why we should support an OXI vote https://eurofree3.wordpress.com/2015/07/01/6-reasons-to-support-the-vote-for-oxi/

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5. Jim Monaghan - July 2, 2015

The CPI explicitly support the what seems to me abstentionist argument of the KKE. What, a sort of neither Tsipras/Syriza or the Troika but whatever. the WPI seem to avoid saying anything on the referendum.
The above seems to be a generalised support for the Greek workingclass and the KKE especially, while saying nothing on the referendum.
Are you for a Yes or No?

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LeftAtTheCross - July 2, 2015

I read the WP statement as leaving that decision to the Greek people while respecting the position of the KKE who are clearly closer to the ground that any of us hurlers on the ditch here.

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shea - July 2, 2015

Yeah it’s basically saying they think kke are sound in general with out commenting on their position on this. Kind of double speak that comes with years of experience in an Irish political party

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LeftAtTheCross - July 2, 2015

You prefer the clarity of the CPI statement, is that it?

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shea - July 2, 2015

Iam appriciting the wp etiquette. Reminds me of something my granny used to say but seldom practiced.

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Mark P - July 2, 2015

Hedging their bets until a crack team of cryptologists manage to work out what the KKE’s position on the referendum actually is.

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shea - July 2, 2015

With the cpi it’s the same debate on here, some want to push on for greekexit, maybe but should know your going to win or at least have good odds before calling that one

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6. LeftAtTheCross - July 2, 2015

http://workersparty.ie/the-workers-party-apologies-to-provo-trots-over-international-policy/

“The Workers’ Party this evening announced that it is strategically reappraising its international policy positions across the board and is engaging in fraternal discussions with advanced sections of the internet commentariat, including supporters of Sinn Féin and Socialist Party, otherwise known as provo trots, with a view to crowd-sourcing its future policy towards Greece, the European Union, and its relations with the International Communist and Workers’ Movement.”

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Jolly Red Giant - July 2, 2015

That would be a step forward rather than swallowing the KKE line.

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LeftAtTheCross - July 2, 2015

Well your comrade MarkP reckons it’s hedging, so which is it, swallowing the line or hedging, make up your minds and get your line straight please.

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shea - July 2, 2015

How did such a non contentious statement get to this.

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LeftAtTheCross - July 2, 2015

That’s Trots for you, always right never wrong, surely you’ve noticed the pattern by now?

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Paul Wilson - July 2, 2015

Its par for the course Shea. Basically the WPI support the position of a fraternal party that we are linked with internationally. Other posters here who are members or supporters of other partys ie SP do exactly the same.

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Mark P - July 2, 2015

What’s interesting about the WP statement is precisely that it doesn’t outline the KKE’s position and adopt it. It nods to the KKE’s magnificence on a general sort of basis, but it doesn’t tell anyone what the KKE line is.

I was taking the piss above when I said that they were hedging their bets until someone can work out what the KKE’s line actually is, but joking aside it’s actually quite different in tone from the KKE’s statements. It doesn’t spend as much time denouncing SYRIZA as the troika for instance. Whether that’s genuinely because the WP can’t work out what the KKE’s line is, I don’t know. It could be because they don’t actually agree with the KKE. It could be that although they do agree with the KKE, they know that equating SYRIZA with the troika would go down badly with people they want to influence here. Or that it might go down badly with some of their own members. Whatever the reason, their statement reads quite differently to the ersatz KKEisms of the Communist Party of Ireland’s statement.

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que - July 3, 2015

Ah I am working on the basis that Shea actually doesn’t think its non contentious and is speaking with tongue firmly pressed in cheek.

Trots are always right and never wrong but backing the KKE is to back an outfit that are as odd as the Trots.

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7. roddy - July 2, 2015

Did Harris lend a hand with that statement? Will WP statements now reference “hushpuppies”, “sneaking regarders” ,”national feminists”,in a nod to the old days?

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LeftAtTheCross - July 2, 2015

Absolutely, full rehabilitation, and the Dublin North party branch to be named the Eoghan Harris Cumann.

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shea - July 2, 2015

You are abusing sarcasm now.

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8. Stefan Nicholls - July 2, 2015

stop emailing me

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Mark P - July 2, 2015

I’m quite enjoying the work of what appears to be a broken spambot. Quite a lot of internet discussions are improved by occasional interjections of “stop emailing me”.

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RosencrantzisDead - July 3, 2015

I thought it was something to do with Paddy Healy’s email list.

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que - July 3, 2015

🙂

Could we reprogram the spam bot to deliver a particular analysis

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9. The Devil - July 2, 2015

On the name of the north Dublin cumann, they’re only named after dead people – so hopefully if that can be arranged it can take the name soon.

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Mark P - July 2, 2015

The Eamon Smullen Cumann has a good ring to it.

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10. dilettante - July 2, 2015

I don’t believe that the KKE are as bad as their press.
To me it looks like they’re just protecting their turf by having a go at the bigger progressive forces( (a bit like some parties here).

But their propaganda is more entertaining (and off the wall) than some of the dour stuff churned out in this neighbourhood.

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11. Paul Wilson - July 3, 2015

The KKE have held a consisent position, what you might call a rejectionist position on the validity of the so called debt. The history of Greece and the KKE itself informs that position.

You might disagree with that fair enough, history will be the judge.

I support that position, not just because I am a member of the WPI but because I think it is right.

We need to think outside the box on this and look to alternatives to both the Eurozone and the EU, nothing remains the same forever, everything constantly changes.

Whatever happens with sundays referendum, SYRIZA need to address this issue and elucidate a plan b.

No the North Dublin branch will be called The Paul Wilson Cumann in honour of me.

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Mark P - July 3, 2015

The KKE have had a consistent general position in recent years. Consistent here being a neutral term, rather than one implying wisdom or foolishness. But on the specific issue of the referendum their position is as clear as mud. Abstain? Vote No? Use their unofficial ballot instead? Use their unofficial ballot as well? Who knows?

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que - July 3, 2015

Consistent indeed. When the facts change I change my opinion what do you do sir said Keynes. The KKE believes the facts never change because they never change their opinions. It is consistent but is it real life.

History is what happens right now. The KKE remains the same and hopes history will afford it an opportunity.

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12. irishelectionliterature - July 3, 2015

Whats the Spart position on the Greek Referendum ?

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que - July 3, 2015

Same as the KKE – loads of red flags and statements about they shall not pass.

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que - July 3, 2015

Oh you mean spartacist.. I thought the lads from 300

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del - July 9, 2015

http://icl-fi.org/english/leaflets/greekref2015.html
Vote NO! Down With the EU!
No Support to the Syriza Government!

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13. RosencrantzisDead - July 3, 2015

Because this thread has been too polite and non-contentious so far, I should say this.

Xekinima is advocating a ‘No’ vote but they have a wildly different interpretation of what a ‘no’ vote means from that of Syriza (who are calling the election).

Xekinima are in the same camp as Schauble and Noonan and believe that ‘no’ will trigger Greece leaving the eurozone. Syriza have consistently denied this. An exit from the Euro will allow Greece to enact full communism or something.

Also, a ‘campaign of mass resistance’ against bin charges is integral to all of this.

It seems to me the Xekinima position is based on a false premiss. A no vote will not require Syriza to leave the euro or completely default on its creditors.

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que - July 3, 2015

Even if there is a no vote it won’t be clear as to what is being rejected. A position that the ECB has withdrawn but if course would otherwise send in again next week if they vote yes.

The bin campaign comment is funny because it’s true.

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Jolly Red Giant - July 3, 2015

What is with the assumption that SYRIZA is a monolith and Tsipras speaks for all of SYRIZA. SYRIZA is coalition of a large number of left groups. Tsipras is the leader of the most right-wing (in SYRIZA terms) faction in SYRIZA. There is no SYRIZA ‘meaning’ – there is Tsipras and his (and others within SYRIZA) interpretation and there is also a left-wing interpretation that is outlined by many if not a majority within SYRIZA that is the same or similar to Xekinima.

Tsipras and a faction within SYRIZA are portraying the referendum as a negotiating tool to get a bette ‘deal’ from the troika. There is no better ‘deal’ – austerity is austerity and SYRIZA were elected to stop austerity.

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RosencrantzisDead - July 3, 2015

Forgive us for getting it into our heads that the leader of a group speaks with some authority for that group.

The leader is also the one conducting the negotiations so he would seem to me to be well placed to define what a ‘no’ vote means for further negotiations and/or a Greek exit.

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Jolly Red Giant - July 3, 2015

The leader was agreeing a deal that would have resulted in a split down the middle in SYRIZA. Part of the reason for the referendum is because of the pressure on Tsipras from the SYRIZA left.

Tsipras wanted and wants a deal – the proposed €7billion+ of cuts to be implemented by SYRIZA – but this would not have happened because the left in SYRIZA.

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RosencrantzisDead - July 3, 2015

So we should be heeding Syriza’s version of Lucinda Creighton in order to understand the true meaning of a referendum?

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Jolly Red Giant - July 3, 2015

No – you should stop trying to be an ass and recognise that Tsipras is only one voice in SYRIZA and doesn’t necessarily speak for all of SYRIZA, or even a majority of it.

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14. roddy - July 3, 2015

Speaking of Cumann,what ever came of the Ned Stapleton cumann?I never could understand why the brother of an Irish international footballer got embroiled with Harris,Caden and all.!

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15. Gewerkschaftler - July 3, 2015

Making the Worker’s Party responsible for the KKE’s absurdities, is, in my opinion, absurd.

However I fear that fear will prevail over pride on Sunday, and it will be the KKE wot won it for the Troika.

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que - July 3, 2015

The WP aren’t responsible for the KKE lunacy but when they make it sound like they are putting forward a reasonable analysis its got to be pulled up. You can’t call the lunatics sane and then wash your hands from their plans.

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16. Gewerkschaftler - July 3, 2015

A Greek in the streets speaks! From the Guardian Eyewitness series:

Personally and to most people here I have talked to, are are voting no against austerity measures that are unsustainable, not to get out either from the Euro or Europe.

Simply because the European commission has threatened us with an exit doesn’t mean we believe it’s true or want it.

This narrative presented by the media that yes means Europe and no doesn’t really is misleading and suspect.

Even more importantly a lot of people have taken pains to make it clear to me that they don’t necessarily trust or support the Taipras government.

Nevertheless they have to vote no to unsustainable measures. Conversely my impression is that people that are voting yes are doing so out of fear for a grexit and are choosing what they think is the lesser of two evils.

So please stop this false narrative that no voters want out of Europe or the Euro. It’s grossly untrue.

One Yannis Retro. (made-up name?)

So can we please put down the bow on the No-means-Grexit fiddle until after Sunday?

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17. FergusD - July 3, 2015

Isn’t it the case that nobody really knows what No will lead to yet (if that is what you mean by “mean”)? But I would have thought that those who vote No can be assumed to be doing so because they don’t believe austerity is the answer to Greece’s problems and that it can possibly improve their situation, even in the long term. What it “means” for Greece’s future will depend on what the response of Germany is – essentially.

Interesting that really you get the sense that the “EU” isn’t making the decisions here, it is the German government and (possibly) the ECB, which seems to be toeing the German line. I wonder what taht means about the future of the EU project (IMHO to create a “european capital”)? Looks like we don’t really have a “european capitalism” free of national boundaries after all.

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