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Searching for problems March 23, 2016

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A glum litany of complaints from the Orange Order – according to the Irish Times this evening in relation to its charge that:

Protestants in the Northern Ireland civil service are not being treated fairly compared with Catholics, citing double-standards in the acceptance of cultural practices.

Hard to feel that the ‘cultural practices’ that are complained of would be out of place in any working environment anywhere else on this island (or indeed the one directly to the east). Far too many seem to simply be an inability to accept cultural differentiation in the North.

But whatever about that… this following is a problem?

Citing official statistics, the report said there were 300 fewer Protestants in the 25,000 civil service workforce than would be the case if the service “exactly reflected” the Catholic-Protestant population breakdown.

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1. benmadigan - March 23, 2016

The OO is just peeved at losing its power base in the NI Civil Service. Attempting to silence catholic chit-chat at work is just a last-ditch desire not to hear the sounds of its erosion.
https://audioboom.com/boos/4339307-orange-order-head-defends-report-on-protestants-in-civil-service?t=0

PS isn’t it time to address the orange order conflict of interest in NI institutions?

https://eurofree3.wordpress.com/2013/10/20/unionists-threatening-and-fearmongering-orange-conflict-of-interest-or-power-play/

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2. roddy - March 24, 2016

That the make up of the Northern civil service only now reflects the general population gives the lie to the shite pedalled by uncle Toms that all the civil rights demands had been granted by 1972. It took another 40 years before anything resembling fair employment came about.Also campaigners like Inez McCormack were vilified by some pseudo “leftists” for carrying on that fight.

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3. dublinstreams - March 24, 2016

missing link to report http://www.grandorangelodge.co.uk/NICS_GOLI_2016FINAL.pdf based on rumours

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WorldbyStorm - March 24, 2016

Thanks dublinstreams, appreciated.

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4. sonofstan - March 24, 2016

TBF, GAA chit chat, Lenten ash and confirmation talk would alienate me too.

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WorldbyStorm - March 24, 2016

Problem is that works in so many ways, because while on certain levels ditto in regard to your point I’ve worked in so many for want of a better word ordinary private and public sector work places where a working knowledge I.e. sufficient to nod and seem to know what others were talking about in reference to soccer and GAA or last nights tv – was at the least necessary to oil the wheels of everyday interactions that I kind of think that’s one of the elements of working life. Where I work there’s both the Lenten ash and staunch atheists – what am I going to do about it?😉

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sonofstan - March 24, 2016

I work with Brexiters. It’s intolerable I tell you!

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dmfod - March 24, 2016

Having the Premiership discussed everyday at lunch in minute detail in an almost all male work environment wasn’t much fun either. I used to daydream about the men being individually trapped in incessant repetitive conversations on stereotypically feminine topics. What would be the worst? Shopping? Periods? Competitive childbirth stories?

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WorldbyStorm - March 24, 2016

The thing is – and I share your pain re the Premiership- any of those last topics would be of greater interest to me in terms of hearing peoples tgoughts by an exponential factor than soccer.

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Tomboktu - March 24, 2016

I work with an alpha-male fan of the Eurovision Song Contest. That is intolerable!

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WorldbyStorm - March 24, 2016

Heheh!

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5. roddy - March 24, 2016

You could not heed a word that eminates from the upper ranks of the orange order.

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6. Joe - March 24, 2016

SF’s unionist outreach will have succeeded when, two lads over a cup of tea in the canteen on Monday morning:
Billy: Well Paddy, I see the Emmetts got bet on Sunday. They need to revert to a traditional high-catching, long-kicking game. The oul’ handpassin’ doesn’t suit us mountainy men.
Paddy: Aye Billy, they were fairly shite alright. There was a right oul’ barney at the end though. We gave them Pearses boys a good kickin even if they did win the game. C’mere how did the Lodge go on Saturday? Any sca? Someone was talkin’ about a split in the accordion band. Something about the tunes being a bit Roman. What’s the story there?

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sonofstan - March 24, 2016

I do actually – no lie – know a civil servant up there who is a staunch unionist, but who know much more about the GAA than I do, has a working knowledge of Irish and loves and plays a bit of trad.

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Michael Carley - March 24, 2016

`Emmetts’? Ballymena Carsons, surely.

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7. roddy - March 24, 2016

Joe,do you realise how insulting it is to compare the GAA to the orange order and that only extreme Loyalists make this comparison.

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Joe - March 24, 2016

Roddy, I didn’t intend to compare the one with the other in the composition above. In doing up the skit, I was actually influenced by your posts on here where you said some of your neighbours were ‘ordinary’ Orangemen and that you got along in a very neighbourly way with them. I just thought that if that good neighbourly relationship continued into a civil service work canteen with the kind of banter I attempted above, this would be a ‘good thing’.
Apologies if I insulted you or any other brethern or sistern reading, green or orange.

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8. roddy - March 24, 2016

I get on with my “orange” neighbours in the same way you would get along with FG or FF neighbours but that does not mean that the orange order has anything in its constitution that could be supported .

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