What you want to say – 23rd March 2016 March 23, 2016
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As always, following on Dr. X’s suggestion, it’s all yours, “announcements, general discussion, whatever you choose”, feel free.
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You lucky, lucky….
I’ve always wanted to go there.
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I know. Bloody hard work though, and very little freedom. The programme was: arrive, training, go to your region, observe and report, back to base, debrief, fly home.
Kazakhstan is big: Put the western tip on Dublin, and the eastern tip I’d past Moscow. I was luckyvl to get back to Astana with a little time to go to the square to see the sorting festival and buy some CDs, and to have a flight back at midday giving me 1.5 hours in the historical museum (about the only institution of any significance not named after Nazerbayev).
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Michael Hudson is an excoriating critic of austerian counter-factual junk economics and speaks with the authority of an ex-insider in the investment banking business.
His books could use a more assertive editor, I find, but this interview covers his main assertions pretty well.
His main thesis is that capitalism has moved from M-C-M partly facilitated by banking as it’s principle mode of accumulation, to rent-extraction through debt peonage, asset stripping and the enclosure of what remains of the public economic sphere.
He makes parallels with the kind of accumulation that took place in the war of creditors and debtors that led, according to him, to the downfall of the Roman Empire.
Some extracts:
On debt-deflation:
On the ‘free trade’ doctrine of junk economics:
Does the financial sector add to GDP?
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Synchronicity?
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“The most fictitious assumption is that Wall Street and the FIRE sector add to output, rather than extracting revenue from the rest of the economy….
The main financial innovation by Apple has been to set up a branch office in Ireland and pretend that the money it makes in the Untied States and elsewhere is made in Ireland”…
If you read Adam Smith and subsequent classical economists, you see that their main concern was to distinguish between productive and unproductive economic activity….
The IMF acts as the collection agent for global bondholders…
The left and former Social Democratic or Labour parties have dome to focus on political and cultural issues, not the economic policy that led to their original creation. What is lacking is a focus on rent theory and financial analysis. Part of the explanation probably is covert U.S. funding and sponsorship of Blair-type neoliberals….
So the political choice today is much like the 1930s, when the global economy also broke down. The choice is between nationalism and populism on the right, or socialism reviving what used to be left-wing politics….
http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/03/23/junk-economics-and-the-parasites-of-global-finance
(Same interview,-I think- with MH)
The so-called Fourth Volume of Capital, ‘Theories of Surplus Value’, written before Vol 1, casts considerable light on these issues.
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Michael Hudson on Debt Deflation, the Rentier Economy, and Coming Financial Cold War
snippets…
“For starters, when I studied economics in the 1960s there was still an emphasis on the history of economic thought, and also on economic history. That’s gone now.
One can easily see why. Adam Smith, John Stuart Mill and other classical economists (‘Marx’) sought to free their societies from the legacy of feudalism: landlordism and predatory finance, as well as from the monopolies that bondholders had demanded that governments create as a means of paying their war debts.”
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“Thorstein Veblen pointed out that vested interests are the main endowers and backers of the higher learning in America. Hardly by surprise, they promote a bankers’-eye view of the world. Imperialists promote a similar self-serving worldview.
Economic theory, like history, is written by the winners. In today’s world that means the financial sector. They depict banks as playing a productive role, as if loans are made to help borrowers earn the money to pay interest and still keep something for themselves. The pretense is that banks finance industrial capital formation, not asset stripping.”
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Snap and Synchronicity, all at the same time. 🙂
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I must point out my post elsewhere here (And still it continues….) yesterday pointing to the same interview on Naked Capitalism (A great site) which higlighted Greece and Ireland as new model economies for the debtor nations.
What I don’t understand is why “productive” capitalism isn’t pissed off with rentier capitalism. Are they so emeshed there is no possibility of division?
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The individuals are invested in both. Any new member of the club is welcomed with open arms and rapidly goes native as they diversify their wealth.
Rare is the individual that resists.
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Sorry for double linking Fergus – I missed your comment.
That’s a good question about conflict between sections of the capitalist class.
I don’t number many (actually any) of the seriously rich among my friends and acquaintances, but I assume they don’t care how they, or more probably their fund managers, hang onto their money and ideally accumulate more. The time horizon of capital has narrowed as Hudson points out.
There is resistance among small to medium manufacturers who aren’t heavily financialised. But despite much lip-service even in Germany it isn’t they who call the tunes in terms of policy. Such is the ideological capture by finance capital of government that the demands of, say, Deutsche Bank, outweigh those of the Mittelstand (productive SMEs) by an order of magnitude. So when DB needs a few tens of billions to avoid going under again it’s partly funded by the owners and wage-dependant in those productive firms.
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DOH
Link, same as per Gewerkschftler: http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2016/03/michael-hudson-on-debt-deflation-the-rentier-economy-and-the-coming-financial-cold-war.html
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Mass cards, GAA talk, mention of child’s confirmation and ashes spark fear in Orange Order civil service workers, report claims…
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/mass-cards-gaa-talk-mention-of-childs-confirmation-and-ashes-spark-fear-in-orange-order-civil-service-workers-report-claims-34565484.html
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Hmm, seeing as the Church of Ireland has Confirmations too, there must be plenty of Catholics working in offices up North who have to endure a Protestant talking about a Confirmation in the family the odd time…just hope they are not too traumatised…
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Just the OO wanting to silence catholic chit-chat at work as they cannot bear the sound of their power-base in the NI Civil Service crumbling away to nothing.
PS remember the OO has far fewer numbers among ordinary dacent protestants than they had in the past
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Can I get a `hmmmm’?
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/irishnews/opinion/article4718501.ece
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Who is to say those progressive changes would have aplied to Ireland. The CAtholic hierarchy would have resisted most of them surely and the UK government would probably have bowed to Irish exceptionalism, to keep the hierarchy on-board. At teh end of the day it would still have required a strong labour/socialist movement in Ireland to make progressive chnage, in or out of the union.
Bit like the EU really.
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I’d go further than that. I’d say that there’s no good reason to think those progressive changes in UK politics would have happened if Ireland (or most of it) had not achieved independence. From the coming of mass politics, the Irish question had been a major destabilising factor in British politics, and there’s no good reason for thinking that that would have stopped if Ireland had remained part of the union.
And a general situation of instability strengthens the hand of the reactionaries – not the progressives.
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Seeing as the men who chiefly planned the Rising were all shot, and most of the leadership during the War of Independence died too, then no, London Times, we can’t tell. We could maybe glean something from the fact that the surviving women recoiled first from Clan na Gael, and later from de Valera’s Fianna Fáil.
As to what-ifs, we only need to look to the North to see how the welfare state and other social reforms might have been blocked for ‘special’ Ireland. The Irish Party were certainly hostile to giving women the vote.
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“As to what-ifs, we only need to look to the North to see how the welfare state and other social reforms might have been blocked for ‘special’ Ireland. The Irish Party were certainly hostile to giving women the vote.”
Interesting old thread here about how Commonwealth membership was no barrier to Maurice Duplessis setting up a nasty right-wing Catholic regime, and suggesting the same could have happened here
if 1916 hadn’t occured:
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To paraphrase an old French (Third) Republican adage: ‘How beautiful was the Republic under the union.’
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Joking apart, The article seems to be a typical piece of liberal idealist wishful thinking. its passage on women ministers is especially misleading. There were British women cabinet ministers, for one year in the twenties, one year in the thirties, two years in the forties and three in the fifties. Only after harold Wilson took power was a woman a regular at the table, and, even then, John Major’s first cabinet (1990-2) was exclusively male.
Above all, as FergusD’s contribution pinpoints, there is no suggestion that an alternative and freer society was a potential factor in the rising, a factor given its quietus by the Labour leaders’ desertion of the national struggle after the Rising.
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“Jacobin is also tight with Sinn Fein, which has shed its past as the electoral arm of the Provisional Irish Republican Army and become the leading left-wing party in Ireland — both the North and the Republic.”
http://www.vox.com/2016/3/21/11265092/jacobin-bhaskar-sunkara
Any reports from the Jacobin launch at Liberty Hall last Saturday?
Analytical marxism meets populist nationalism, and the result is….
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The Irish Times had an article on the Jacobin magazine and its take on the legacy of 1916. The publisher, Bhaskara Sunkara, says:
“There’s something to be said about having a real rigorous socialist analysis of the Rising that is, at the same time, not a totally fawning thing . . . We don’t just want to publish propaganda.” I couldn’t agree more.
“People like Connolly, for all their faults, were truly democrats committed to a vision of mass politics. The Rising was meant to spark a deeply democratic republic. They had to use certain tactics, and people either denounce or fetishise those tactics, but I think the mass democratic-socialist politics that inspired them should be remembered too.”
I beg to disagree about James Connolly; but that reflects the way in which there are so many varied interpretations of his politics.
The columnist says:
“The pieces in the 1916 issue are celebratory in places but not uncritical. They include articles on Connolly’s affinity for German imperialism; how he was influenced by the Paris Commune; the role of women in the Rising; the reactionary forces at work in 20th-century Ireland; the historic ineffectiveness of the Labour Party; and two pieces about contemporary Sinn Féin.”
http://www.irishtimes.com/culture/heritage/from-james-connolly-to-bernie-sanders-1.2578792
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More from Jacobin on Sinn Féin, as well as James Connolly
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/02/sinn-fein-gerry-adams-irish-republican-army/
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I could write a report, if WbS is interested in publishing it.
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That’d be great EWI. Much appreciated.
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I have a question: Jim Larkin, as quoted in William O’Brien’s BMH statement, supposedly claimed in July 1916 (in The Masson) that:
‘Out of the fourteen men who were shot to death, five were members of the Irish Socialist and Labour movement’
I count four – Connolly, Mallin, Ceannt and maybe Pearse (who had the reputation of being sympathetic to labour). Maybe Clarke as the fifth, likewise to Pearse?
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Dublin City council just bestowed the Freedom of the City on Michael Mallin’s son, who must be the last of the children of the 1916 leaders still alive: http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/1916/freedom-of-dublin-for-executed-leaders-son-34560621.html
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Just read the first chapter of a biog of O’Hanrahan by Conor Kostick. He was a corkcutter by trade and a founder of the Carlow Workingman’s Club (resigned from it when they allowed a British soldier to join). Don’t know if that qualifies him as a ‘member of the Irish Socialist and Labour movement’.
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Thomas MacDonagh was a founding member of the ASTI.
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Sean Heuston was a member of the ITGWU.
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The latest issue of the ‘Revolution Papers’ looks at the impact of the Russian Revolution in Ireland and includes a nice facsimile of Irish Opinion (later the Voice of Labour).
The new issue of SIPTU’s Liberty is also a 1916 special and worth getting your hands on.
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Ah flippin heck. Cabra and Phibsboro in Easter Week 1916, a talk by Brian Hanley in Cabra Library tonight is fully booked out. They’ve put me on the waiting list. Wonder if I said I’m an online warrior ‘friend’ of the lecturer, would that do any good?
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I hope it was worth the effort Joe! Sorry I didn’t get a chance to talk to you after.
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Well worth it Brian.
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He ruffled a few feathers among the artistic community at the Jacobin launch anyway. Seems like an angry fella.
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You don’t know the half of it pal
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Really enjoyed your Central library series of talks. Great for all us senior citizens that you were so willing to answer questions and discuss issues.
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When is the outgoing Seanad dissolved? I know the election to it are held within 90 days after the Dáil is dissolved, but does the Sranad cease to exist before then or is it with the election that it ceases to exist?
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I guess, going on recent conversations, there will be people here mystified by comparisons between the late Johan Cruyff and the Beatles, Bowie and (thanks Ken Early) Karl Marx. But he was that important (ok, maybe not Marx)
Despite the wholesale takeover of football by the most repellent forms of capital, the game itself is immeasurably better than it was 50 years and, while it’s not all down to Cruyff, his influence in Holland and Catalonia pretty much made the modern game. Unlike rugby and tennis where physical power and athleticism have made them less than engaging as spectacles, and ever more like the US model, football remains a sport where the best player in the world is a 5’7″ light weight and where art can still beat brute force more often than not. And, as Leicester march towards the title, ahead of the plutocratic playthings at Chelsea and Citeh, one of Cruyff’s Bon mots resonates; ‘I never saw a bag of money score a goal’
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+1. I’m guessing you’ve read that David Winner book, Brilliant Orange? Fantastic stuff. And makes the kind of football Holland have played in the last couple of tournaments all the more infuriating …
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Apparently Cruyff himself started supporting Spain instead, so disgusted was he at his own country’s betrayal. I haven’t read the Winner book. On the list for years, need to pick it up…
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That book sounds good, on the list for sure.
As a Barca fan I’ve benefited disproportionately from the effects Cruyff had on the game, so I’m deeply grateful for that contribution. That emphasis on skills and tactics lifts it above what might just be a borefest of bruisers with lots of machismo and little else. Maybe Oranje will reflect now on what they could be.
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Winner himself though is also infuriating, being a particularly aggressive Decent Left will-you-condemn type.
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Yep. Ajax 1971-73 and Nederlands 1974. Johann Cruyff RIP.
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so the answer to who’s leaving the Irish Times politics dept is Stephen Collins, soon to retire according to the thephoenix (although he doesn’t seem that old)
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Patsy McGarry has been making a strong challenge so far this year for Collins’ crown as silliest Irish Time journo: I admire his work ethic.
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/easter-disappears-from-nestle-and-cadbury-egg-packages-1.2586118
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Counterpunch asking ‘Who Were Connolly and Pearce”
Well, indeed…
http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/03/25/easter-1916-who-were-connolly-and-pearce/
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I gave up at “Irish Republican Brotherhood Volunteers”.
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On my way to a Rising commemoration in Orange County CA tomorrow purely out of curiosity – will be interesting to see how the Ir-Am right interpret things. Anyone have any experience with them in the US or Irish incarnations?
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Meant to specify – an Ancient Order commemoration. Not just behind the Orange Curtain.
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BBC Radio 4 from Dublin better than I might have feared.
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Poised for the off switch throughout, but didn’t need it
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On the whole a reasonable selection of people interviewed, though I couldn’t help thinking that Nick Robinson wasn’t quite up to the job discussing the rising without continually referring back to the place of violence in Irish politics. He couldn’t really deal with Michael D. at all: I had the impression the president was going easy on him, though he didn’t compromise on the question of Ireland being right to win its independence.
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Two articles in today’s online IT. One with headline that Minister Humphreys says that commemorations will be ‘inclusive’. The other a piece with quotes from three heads from RSF, 32CSM and Éirígí.
Put me thinking about the Prods in the north (when am I not thinking of them?). The only comment I’ve seen from unionists on telly on this whole commemoration thing was from Arlene Foster a few weeks back. I think she was with members of our government at something or other and I think Enda had invited her to attend or participate in some commemorative event. Her response to the RTÉ questioner was along the lines of: “Well I don’t think that the Easter Rising should be commemorated at all.” To her and to unionists it was an attack on their state, on their country. Why should they commemorate much less celebrate it?
It brings me back to a line I’ve often used when debating with nationalists/republicans on the north down the years. “What about the Prods?” is the line.
Seems to me they’ve been pretty much completely ignored in all the hoo ha down here. It’s very much a commemoration of 1916 and a celebration of this state, this 26 county state. I am, as they say, ok with that. And I know a lot of nationalists/republicans would say they are not.
But I kind of get a consensus emerging which accepts the status quo – the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland and the rest of the UK, as set out in the Good Friday Agreement and subsequent agreements and the institutions that followed. It seems to be working quite well. We are talking, not fighting. We are muddling along.
So four years after 1966, the north was ablaze.
Four years after 2016, the north will continue to muddle along, please god or marx or whoever you are having yourself.
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It seems to be working quite well. We are talking, not fighting. We are muddling along.
It generally muddles along until it goes up in flames. Who can tell what four years might bring? The U.K. might be out of the E.U., and Scotland might be out of the U.K., for all we know.
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It doesn’t have to ever go up in flames again though. We are not prisoners of history. Work the institutions, support the Peace Process. The price of peace is eternal vigilance. Workers unite!
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“Donald, you’re a sniveling coward,” Cruz said. ”
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/03/24/as-tensions-escalate-cruz-calls-trump-a-sniveling-coward.html
“Let me be clear: Donald Trump may be a rat, but I have no desire to copulate with him.”-Cruz.
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a43332/ted-cruz-donald-trump-rat-copulate/
Cruz has pledged to vote for the Republican nominee,-even if its Trump. And so it goes….
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Joe,there will be tens of thousands commemorating the rising up here and we won’n need the permission of Arlene,the Indo,RTE or the staters to do so.
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Roddy, I wouldn’t doubt yis. I hope you enjoy the commemorations. I’ve been totally engaged and positive about it down here myself. All the old cynicism washed away on the tide. I gave three bilingual talks on the Fingal Campaign and the Battle of Ashbourne in local libraries. I’m mcing a commemorative night in my GAA club in April and on May weekend I’ll be leading a walk around Phibsboro focussing on Phibsboro in Easter Week 1916.
So you and me, we’re from the same tribe so to speak and the same memories lift our hearts – to a point anyway!
So again I wish you and the tens of thousands of others in the six counties who are commemorating the Rising only the best. But I also wish the other tens of thousands who at best are ignoring it all and at worst are cursing it, I wish them the best as well. They are entitled to their nationality and history and loyalties as much as the rest of us are
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Joe, I have some stuff on Phibsborough if you want it- WBS has my email.
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Very generous of you Brian. Will be in touch.
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That reminds me – on the subject of Phibsborough and 1916, I’ve stuff which I’ve promised yourself as well.
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So who in ‘the six counties’ and who in ‘the republic’ is going to publicly commemorate the centenary of The Battle of the Somme over the coming summer then? Will there be agonising discussions about the morality of that battle and the war of which it was a part? Will Jesuit theologians be writing for the Irish Times and US academic magazines?
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Here they are in a pub in Kerry commemorating Easter Week and the Somme. Was it for this Edward Fitzgerald died? Yes it was!
Full video is on today’s Indo website.
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And not a Jesuit theologian in sight!
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“When we decide to address the issue of violence, let us speak of the violence of empire, the violence of state, the violence of insurrection,”
-President Higgins.
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Don’t worry if you’re after losing an hour last night. It wasn’t the drink this time. They took one off all of us to mark the centenary of 1916. That’s five minutes for Connolly and the Citizens Army, five for the Volunteers and five for the IRB, five for John Redmond and the Irish Parliamentary Party for the fright, five for Irish Water, five for all the popes in Rome, five for the glint in the eye of a priest brandishing a hurl in a classroom, five for Constance Markievicz and Cumann na mBan, five for the suffragettes (and the fright they gave John Redmond as well), five for a dark-haired, shawl-shouldered cailín coming out of the mist on a bog, five for those who fought in the Great War, and five for proportional representation and the democratic parliamentary process (that’s four for Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil, and sure the rest of you are Others). None left for yourselves now.
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https://twitter.com/emma_c_williams/status/714027221481033729
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Jim Harrison has died.
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Should add this as well.
http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/books/interviews/a29511/jim-harrison-interview-0814/
As for the love of dogs, not Harrison but one of the best ways to articulate it that I have ever seen.
http://www.fieldandstream.com/blogs/mans-best-friend/2012/03/words-wisdom-unlikely-place
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All this talk of 1916 has reminded me: this July will be the 80th anniversary of the start of the Spanish Civil War. Wonder will there
be any commerations of the likes of Bob Doyle and Charles Donnelly
here?
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Do you really want to let Inda and his advisors loose for ‘respectful, inclusive’ commemorations where fascism will be treated as just a legitimate point of view?
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“Do you really want to let Inda and his advisors loose for ‘respectful, inclusive’ commemorations where fascism will be treated as just a legitimate point of view?”
Oh God, yes, I can imagine what the Spanish versions of
Ruth Dudley Edwards and Kevin Myers would say.
“Is it wise to remember the victims of Guernica and Badajoz?
Do you want ETA to start bombing people again? “
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Delmer Berg, the last known American survivor who fought fascists in 1930s Spain, has died in northern California. He was 100 years old.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/02/delmer-berg-dies-last-living-american-fought-fascists-franco-spain
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Enda Kenny praising Michael O’Riordan?
Here’s Senator John McCain’s tribute to Comrade Berg.
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Cork City Council postponed the co-option of Fiona Ryan to replace Mick Barry tonight by 14-13 on the grounds that an ‘interested party’ objected.
This is a disgraceful attempt by the Labour Party who have been roundly hammered in Cork in both the locals and general election to sneak back onto the council by using a stunt to take the AAA seat on the council with the help of FF and FG.
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Wow, sounds underhand JRG. What’s the process they’d use to take the seat?
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I’d say the technical term here is ‘brass neck’.
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Because Mick Barry was elected as an AAA candidate and Fiona Ryan stood as an AAA /PBP candidate in the general election.
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Seems unreasonable, let’s hope it goes nowhere.
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