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Sunday Independent Stupid Statement of the Week May 8, 2016

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Garibaldy is away, but there’s this:

Actually unionism was built on fear of Roman Catholic supremacy and distrust of the IRA.

Ahistorical, how are you?

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1. Jolly Red Giant - May 8, 2016

I am waiting for the publication from Harris of his ‘little book of stupid statements’. It will sit proudly on my shelf alongside Gerry’s ‘little book of tweets’.

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Michael Carley - May 8, 2016

`Little’ book of stupid statements? Little? It could run longer than the collected works of Lenin.

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Ivorthorne - May 8, 2016

I’m curious – could you actually publish a book of stupid statements made in the Irish media without the permission of the original publishers and authors?

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WorldbyStorm - May 8, 2016

That’s an interesting question. Where does copyright reside?

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RosencrantzisDead - May 9, 2016

You might be able to avail of a fair dealing exemption, where you would not need permission but you would need to give proper attribution and not use the work in a way that would prejudice the rights of the copyright owner.

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2. CL - May 8, 2016

Trotskyist entryism is not confined to the Labour Party. Harris has now revealed that there are ‘Trots’ in FF as well as in FG. Next week the Healy-Raes?.
If the FG Trots are in a different Fourth International from the FF Trots the new government won’t last the expected six months.

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3. Starkadder - May 8, 2016

“The second bigotry is our bitter treatment of the State of Israel. Shamefully, we were the last in the EU to establish diplomatic relations with Israel, the sole democracy in the Middle East.”

Why is that whenever I read the “sole democracy in the Middle East”
line, I feel like the speaker wants to add “And we’d it like it to
stay the sole democracy there?”

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Ed - May 8, 2016

Is that even true, anyway? De Valera famously had a warm relationship with Israel’s first president. And if he’s including all the current EU members, I’m fairly sure some of the East European states didn’t have diplomatic ties with Israel, back when Harris was lauding them as socialist paragons.

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CL - May 8, 2016

“Herzog’s experiences in Ireland deeply affected his role as chief rabbi. He was the first thinker who seriously and systematically developed the idea of turning Israel into a “halachic state” — an idea, as historians such as Shulamit Eliash of Bar-Ilan University have noted, that sounded like a Jewish version of De Valera’s Catholic policy.”
http://forward.com/culture/135979/the-rebbe-of-sinn-fein/

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WorldbyStorm - May 8, 2016

I don’t think it can be true. Diplomatic relations were established in 1975 pre-dating the EU. It’s possible he means the opening of an embassy which was 1993 but even that doesn’t entirely ring true either (would some late arrivals in the EU have embassies with Israel?). All that said we were in the firstish tranche to recognise Israel after the USSR.

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CL - May 9, 2016

Ireland recognized Israel, de facto, February 1949, and,de jure, May 1963.
Diplomatic relations were established in 1974.

The Vatican did not recognize Israel until 1993, and urged Ireland to withhold recognition.
https://books.google.com/books?id=2sZ-AgAAQBAJ&pg=PA73&lpg=PA73&dq=february+12+1949+ireland+recognizes+israel&source=bl&ots=ykMtZFyiYe&sig=3aEwkR6YqtlNx_FQOXP3HW57ikY&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwibrYiYycvMAhUGXh4KHV2PA7sQ6AEIKjAC#v=onepage&q=february%2012%201949%20ireland%20recognizes%20israel&f=false

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4. Ivorthorne - May 9, 2016

I can’t actually figure out if recognising Israel was a good thing in that it signified something akin to anti-antii-semitism or a bad thing because, you know, there was that thing with those people who used to live in the place they call Israel these days.

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