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Fine Gael Spelling September 30, 2016

Posted by irishelectionliterature in Irish Politics.

Anyone know why Fine Gael spell it Connaught and Fianna Fail spell it Connacht ?


Then there is Fine Gael using “Bye-Election” and everyone else using “By-Election”




1. botheredbarney - September 30, 2016

In the first poster for Connaught-Ulster the Gaelic spelling Connacht is dropped in favour of the pidgin anglicised spelling Connaught.


2. bjg - September 30, 2016

Logainm.ie says Connaught is the English-language spelling http://www.logainm.ie/en/1165969

In the Irish-language version of that page, it used the pidgin gaelicised word “tvuit”



Joe - September 30, 2016

Tvuít – beautiful, I had to look it up.
Reminds me of the street sign near me: Whitworth Road, Bóthar Fuitbhort. Also beautiful.


sonofstan - September 30, 2016

much the same qay the English names of irish places were arrived at really


Pasionario - September 30, 2016

Don’t forget those ancient Gaelic townships Baile Phib and Raghnallach.


botheredbarney - September 30, 2016

I found this on a politics.ie thread:

Connacht received its name from a trial of magic that took place between two druids of the Tuatha De Dannans, whose names were Kithnellach and Conn. Conn won the contest by covering all of Connacht with snow, hence the name Connacht was given to the province

Conn-sneachta or Conn’s snow.

Any expert comments?


botheredbarney - September 30, 2016

I copy a paragraph about names for the province from the wikipedia entry on Connacht:

“The usual English spelling in Ireland since the Gaelic revival is Connacht, the spelling of the disused Irish singular. The official English spelling during English and British rule was the anglicisation Connaught, pronounced /kɒnɔːt/ or /kɒnət/.[9] This was used for the Connaught Rangers in the British Army; in the title of Queen Victoria’s son Arthur, Duke of Connaught; and the Connaught Hotel, London, named after the Duke in 1917. Usage of the Connaught spelling is now in decline. State bodies use Connacht, for example in Central Statistics Office census reports since 1926,[10] and the name of the Connacht–Ulster European Parliament constituency of 1979–2004,[11][12][13] although Connaught occurs in some statutes.[14][15] Among newspapers, the Connaught Telegraph (founded 1830) retains the anglicised spelling in its name, whereas the Connacht Tribune (founded 1909) uses the Gaelic. Connacht Rugby who represent the region and are based in Galway, use the Gaelic spelling also.[16]”


Joe - September 30, 2016

A non-expert comment BB. Don’t ever put your faith in anything you find on a politics.ie thread.
In the spirit of p.ie however… the Tuatha Dé Danann were a bunch of imperialist invaders who took Ireland from its rightful owners the Firbolg. Firbolgs unfree shall never be at peace.


3. Michael Carley - September 30, 2016

It’s genetic.


4. RosencrantzisDead - September 30, 2016

The spelling “bye-election” isused in the Electoral Act, 1992. Presumably the same spelling is used in the other acts.


5. Aonrud ⚘ - September 30, 2016

No right or wrong on the by-/bye- difference, but it looks like the former is more common.

And, having gone looking, it seems by- comes from a root meaning ‘town’ (also in bylaw), and is not the same as the ‘near’ sense in bystander, bypass etc.

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6. gendjinn - September 30, 2016

Mark Killilea went on to Europe where he made one staggeringly embarrassing incident after another.

You ever hear the old joke about the Irish politician that thinks his French buddy in the EEC dining room is called “Bon Appetit” and proceeds to introduce him to the Irish delegation as such? He actually did that one.

Along with being the first to have a 12 piece serving of EEC dining room silverware liberated one meal at a time. Seriously, finish eating. Stand up. Put the silverware in their pockets and walk out.


7. Gearóid - September 30, 2016

Doherty, gas.

I was in Dublin last weekend, in Chapters, and picked Jiving at the Crossroads. It was years since I read it, but would like it for the bookshelf. Whatever about the way Waters has gone, the book is fierce well-written and a great read.


8. Joe - October 4, 2016

Coming home from Mass the other day I noticed that the Dublin city council street sign for Connaught St, Sr Chonnacht, in Phibsboro, uses the ‘Fine Gael spelling’.
I’ll write to Mary Lou about it – not.

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