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Speaking of legislation on the right to die… October 17, 2016

Posted by WorldbyStorm in Uncategorized.

…as we were in relation to Brenda Fricker’s comments. Christy Dignam – also interviewed in Hot Press by Jason O’Toole, mentions the Halligan Bill.

Will you consider going to the Dignitas centre In Switzerland to end your life?
Yeah, absolutely. I have thought about it, if it goes a certain way. I’ve seen people dying of cancer. And I’ve seen them dying screaming in fucking agony. There’s no bleeding way I would put myself through that. I would absolutely – without a fucking shadow of a doubt – consider using that option
Minister John Halligan recently revealed to Hot Press that he plans to table a Bill for legislation on the right to die in our own country with dignity.
I seen it, yeah.
What that be something you’d support?
I would, yeah. Absolutely. I don’t think it’ll be successful because we’re still too ingrained in the Catholic mindset. I don’t think he’ll get away with it, but I admire what he is trying to do. But definitely, I would consider that. Why put yourself through that, if there’s no hope? If you’re at a point where there’s no hope and you’re in absolute fucking agony – why make your last couple of months a fucking unpleasant experience? Get out of it.

I think that’s interesting, the point Dignam makes about the prospects of the legislation, but even that it is getting a bit of currency as an issue is perhaps indicative of how things have changed in relation to contentious issues reaching a public hearing.

It’s an interesting interview too in its own right quite apart from that – Dignam is someone who has faced multiple challenges in his life and continues to do so.


1. ivorthorne - October 17, 2016

It is pretty ridiculous that there is so much opposition to euthanasia in principle. I can see why people would have concerns about how it would work in practice but forcing somebody with a terminal condition to prolong their life in a way that forces them to suffer needlessly is just wrong.

I would presume if legislation was introduced to allow people the right to die that it would also cover children. In situations where the child was unable to contribute to the decision making process, the decision would be left to the parents. I wonder would this result in de facto legalised abortion in the case of fatal foetal abnormalities?


2. gendjinn - October 17, 2016

Is Christy still fighting with drugs or the aftermath? The before & after photo from Aslan is probably the best anti-heroin pitch I can think of after Requiem for a Dream.

I am completely against legalising euthanasia. It only causes problems. Anyone who wants to die can easily take care of the task with heroin, easily available everywhere. That or a shotgun in the mouth. We do not need the state to be involved with killing humans. No good whatsoever can come of it.

By all means fund hospice.


Jason o'Toole - October 18, 2016

Read the entire article before you jump to idoitic judgements. This will happen in the future, like it or not. It is expanding throughout Europe all the the. We need heaven on heart now, as Bono once sang… I.e. Compassion… Sick of the sorrow/.sick of the pain, Bono sang. How true. Talkingb smack is illegal and a horrible way to die, or shooting yourself is not compassionate. We need a compassionate society. People dying need to go in peace. You sound like a guy who’ll vote against the 8th. Just another Pre-historic Catholic nut-job. ps. I wrote the article.


Jason o'Toole - October 18, 2016

Ps – forgive typos , as writing this on Spanish keyboard !!!!


3. roddy - October 17, 2016

What about unscrupulous relatives “persuading ” an elderly person to end it all and then benifitting financially as a result?


Gewerkschaftler - October 17, 2016

While I support a person’s right to control their own mortality (like their sexuality & reproduction) that would be concern as well, Roddy. I think there’s some evidence of that having happened in the Netherlands.

In our greed-driven pseudo-civilisations, that is, under communism that problem will go away.🙂

And, of course, neo-liberal governments, who would love the idea of saving on some pensions and health care, are pushing the idea of euthenasia for healthy older people.


CMK - October 18, 2016

Closing the gap between life expectancy and pension entitlement age is of paramount importance for capitalism. It’s profoundly taboo so, as a social goal, it has to be referred to obliquely and, as an imperative, framed as a matter of individual choice. The idea of someone with a terminal illness who, nonetheless, possessed a strong will to continue living is precisely the kind of thing the pensions industry etc, hate. Not only does such a person use up medical resources but they also have to get paid a pension or other financial support, while ill. It would be far better for the financial services industry if such a person could be persuaded to end their life in a humane way. I mean they’re going to be gone in a few months, a year tops, so why not bow out now without any suffering? If could can persuade one person to take that route you’re saving a couple of grand, persuade a couple of thousand and you’re saving millions, tens of thousands and you save more again.

A persistent theme has been the idea of the looming ‘pensions crisis’ where we won’t be able to afford to sustain a large population of healthy retirees and we’ll all have to pay out huge sums to keep them alive and out of poverty. Again, the debased nature of capitalism as a system is clear when we see what should be point of pride for humanity, that more and more people are living longer (a objective that should be pushed out to all societies across the world) is recast as a colossal ‘problem’.

‘Nudge’ politics is a big area for the establishment – political ‘scientist’ Cass Sustein has written a lot about it – and you can be sure that the establishment won’t be hesitating to start nudging people into voluntary euthanasia as soon as it is socially acceptable to do so.

You’ll have sick manual workers being put under pressure to end it all and 100 year billionaires under no such pressure.


Gewerkschaftler - October 18, 2016


Add to that the pension funds desperately need new money because of the current low-interest rates in bonds and savings. At the same time the continuing financial crisis could go from stagnatory to critical at any time, adding to their risks. The sector needs money ASAP and are lobbying hard for it.

I saw a classic example on German TV where a lobbyist for the private pension ‘industry’ described their nightmare scenario:

With modern medicine a man might get prostate cancer in his sixties, survive that, and take early retirement on medical grounds. Then in his seventies he could have a series of heart problems, develop diabetes, and then go on to live into his 90s!

Horror of horrors! A human being might survive longer than is financially convenient for us.


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