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And for the day that is in it November 8, 2016

Posted by WorldbyStorm in Uncategorized.
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If you want to chart your own route for a Presidential win here’s the perfect online tool to do so. 270towin.com offers you an interactive map to get you or your candidate(s) of choice to the winning line. What a strange system the US has, in some respects. I’ve said it before, never liked executive presidencies. And for continental size states I’m even more convinced they’re a bad idea.

Anyhow, all contributions on the election welcome here.

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1. Gewerkschaftler - November 8, 2016

Well to start, let’s not forget how technically undemocratic this election is going to be.

Setting aside the power of campaign funding by the rich translating into policy; the degree of gerrymandering and active discouragement of sections of the electorate (black, Latino, the poor, the young) is something to behold in a country that styles itself as a democracy.

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2. gendjinn - November 8, 2016

Made a comment on the open thread that got swallowed (lot of links).

The election should not even be this close. It is ridiculous.

FL closes 6 EST, VA 7, NC/OH 7:30 and PA/MI/TX 8. Those states should determine the outcome. In ’08 it was 12:30 EST when they called the rust belt states.

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WorldbyStorm - November 8, 2016

I released, sorry that was the spam filter. Yes, agree entirely. Pretty poor that it’s only a few percentage points in the difference. It will be very interesting to read the analyses of the vote, and indeed to see what the vote is.

Is it my imagination or do the networks do exit polls on the close of the first polls?

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CL - November 8, 2016

-The five major television networks, along with The Associated Press, have pledged that they won’t characterize the outcome of the election until all the polls have closed in a particular state….
shortly after 5 p.m. Eastern Time, the networks will discuss preliminary statistics about the demographic makeup of the electorate thus far, or how voters viewed the issues or the candidates’ personal characteristics….
But even though the networks won’t discuss whether the exit polls have Clinton or Trump ahead in key states…they have that information in their possession. And that information is likely to leak out, whether on other websites or on Twitter.-
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/how-to-read-the-exit-polls-230933

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WorldbyStorm - November 8, 2016

Fair point CL. An interesting evening lies ahead.

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CL - November 8, 2016

And separate from the above Slate is running its own projections.
http://www.slate.com/votecastr_election_day_turnout_tracker.html
Right now they have Clinton ahead in Florida, 49 per cent to Trump 45 per cent. How reliable? I’ve no idea.

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CL - November 8, 2016

“Wall Street traders are moving markets Tuesday based on a data from websites that purport to offer real-time estimates of the election results….
With the Slate data showing Hillary Clinton leading in several key swing states, stocks have shot higher and bonds have fallen.”
http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2016/11/08/traders-jump-on-live-polling-data-send-stocks-higher/

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3. sonofstan - November 8, 2016

i’m on the Enterprise at Belfast Central on my way to Connolly – and it occurred to me for the first time ever that the latter must be one of the most left wing stations in Europe. Any other candidates? (I know there’s an U-Bahnhof Karl Marx Strasse in Berlin, but that’s the street name not the station)

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sonofstan - November 8, 2016

sorry wrong thread. Meant to be in WYWTS

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fergal - November 8, 2016

Louise Michel metro station in Paris? Are communards/anarchists to the left of Connolly?🙂

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RosencrantzisDead - November 8, 2016

Where do we put Robespierre on this spectrum? (He may have had a hand in developing it, didn’t he?)

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Gewerkschaftler - November 8, 2016

Somewhere next to Lenin.

Perhaps a spectrum isn’t so useful in a multi-dimensional field.

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Gewerkschaftler - November 8, 2016

Rosa Luxemburg U-Bahn.

I’m sure there’s others around here.

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4. Gewerkschaftler - November 8, 2016

So shall I or shan’t I? The political junkie in me wants to stay up all night and follow the ins and outs. Amd it’s so close. And I might learn something.

I genuinely hope that the lesser of two weevils wins.

The working stiff in me knows I have a 5 hour meeting tomorrow morning where I have to try to convince the sceptical DAS ICH RECHT HABE – VERDAMMT NOCH MAL.

Perhaps I should rely on the magic of the coffee bean to pull me through tomorrow.

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WorldbyStorm - November 8, 2016

I’m in a similar situation. Busy day tomorrow. I’ll watch some television, get myself to 12. Probably go to bed and wake up every two or three hours and catch the headlines. But it is – and I think you were spot on earlier, and I meant to like your comment about it, re the flaws in US democracy – a profoundly important contest, well above and beyond the candidates.

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Gewerkschaftler - November 8, 2016

There’s an idea – a bit of German public TV US election coverage.

I’ve never done that before. Might be interesting.

Spiegel online had a particularly obtuse article on Trump and ‘populism’, even by their standards. It resembled an argument you still hear here sometimes about Adolf H. “Sometimes a devil-possessed leader arises and the people are seduced by him. What could we do?”

Narry a word about the political, social and economic structures that have led to his possible success.

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