An Eirexit..? November 21, 2016
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Given the issue came up let’s look at the technicalities. is this comment from the IT – putting aside the jibe in it – correct?
Thanks to our written constitution, the only way Ireland could leave the EU would be through repealing the Third Amendment after a referendum. For that, you first need an Act of the Oireachtas. The assorted lefties have 13 seats in the Dail; all the other parties, even the Shinners, are in favour of remaining in the EU. In particular, Fine Gael and Fianna Fail have 94 seats.
The irony is that this state which has many more referendums is less likely by quite some distance to see the Brexit result replicated by the referendum process. The only way I can see a path to such an outcome (see, that bloody US election and its paths this paths that) is some sort of massive catastrophic rupture either in the EU itself or in the UK and Ireland. And that would, I suspect, have to be greater than that accompanying the financial crisis of the late 2000s. Possible? Sure. Likely, feasible, not really.
And just on that, Broughan and Collins were against Brexit even if both were correctly very very critical of the EU as it is. I’m trying to think of who else was either for or against Brexit. PBP-AAA were in favour, Pringle in favour (be interesting to see if that impacts on his vote next time out), does it come to 13 TDs in favour? Anyone able to help out there.
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The WP and eirigi were also for Brexit
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They make extraction fans, don’t they?
A bit more seriously the Bertelsmann EU survey shows a 5% increase in EU grudging approval. For what polls are worth in these days.
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Ah, just seen your comment, I’ve just lashed up the very same point in posts. My bad.
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Oh FFS –
are the French right about to do a DNC and provide Le Pen with the ideal (for her) opposition, i.e. Fillon?
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It says a lot about where we are (and where we’re not) that the run-off in the French presidential election will likely be between a Thatcherite and a neo-fascist.
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It’s worse than that, Joe.
If this run-off happens it’s quite likely that Le Pen could get in because those on the left who might vote for the right to prevent a fascist (I don’t use the word lightly but she’s that) won’t be able to bring themselves to vote for a neo-liberal throwback.
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It ain’t hard, it ain’t soft, it smoove, baby.
Brexit I mean.
May isn’t so much dancing as negotiating with herself.
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“It ain’t hard, it ain’t soft . . .”
A Floppy Brexit?
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As well as Broughan and Collins ,SF are also remain but “Euro critical”.
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Whatever that means Roddy aka fa!
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it looks like the SWP/SP are for Eirexit if they’re asked, just like their co-religionists in Britain whose campaign against all the steps to prevent the people’s will being implemented seems to be missing.
Maybe that’s because the only people they could find to unite with to ensure Brexit actually happens are reactionary xenophobes or outright racists With every day that passes the policy looks more and more disastrous and no amount of claiming you want it for left wing reasons makes it any more left wing
If watching the car crash doesn’t give them cause to pause and rethink there might be no hope for them.
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Amendments say “The State may become a member of the European Coal and Steel Community”, “The State may ratify the Treaty of Lisbon” etc. But the crucial one seems to be “Ireland affirms its commitment to the European Union”. You can’t affirm a commitment by leaving something.
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