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Flagging enthusiasm May 23, 2017

Posted by WorldbyStorm in Uncategorized.

How many British flags does one see flown in the Republic? I ask the question because of this story here in the IT about a Donegal hotelier who has received scathing criticism on social media for flying amongst other flags, the union flag – when guests from Britain are staying there.

He’s a former soldier, is ‘passionate’ about a UI but says:

“Some in the unionist tradition claim the (union) flag. If we display that maturity (by displaying the flag), it is a stepping stone to a united Ireland.”

I dislike arguments about ‘maturity’… but he has a point. In any future UI there is going to be some display of union flags (albeit the union may be a rather more truncated one than previously), particularly in the North East. And there in the NE probably on a constant basis for many many years. Parity of esteem has to work both ways if it is to have any meaning and particularly if it is – as it should be – proper for the tricolour to fly in the North. Of course we’re not there yet in that regard, indeed in advance of that day it appears that removing the union flag rather than adding the tricolour (at last at official events and locations) is the order of the day. I find that kind of lamentable but there we have it.

And what of the union flag in the ROI? I’m trying to recall when I saw one. I think again it is in connection with hotels.


1. EWI - May 23, 2017

I can see why the IT is so careful not to include any photographs of the man himself. He is, to put it mildly, ‘eccentric’:


And I’ve no idea what to make of this. Maybe t’s missing some key details?



An Sionnach Fionn - May 23, 2017

From what I hear, there is a bit more to the story than the IT and others are making out. In any case why is the IT calling it the “Union flag”? Why not simply the “British” or “UK” flag? That itself carries non-too subtle political undertones.


2. Joe - May 23, 2017

I think I recall hearing him tell that story on the radio. If it’s the same one, he said that as an officer he took charge of and gave orders to a group of local UDR men who were all shook up and edgy after the incident. And he went on to say that some time later he met the RUC and they showed him photos of who they said was the leader of the IRA unit that day. And it was a cousin of his, ‘my cousin Eddie’ is what I recall him saying.

Mad story. Wonder how much of it is true?


EWI - May 23, 2017

Mad story. Wonder how much of it is true?

That’s a very good question.


3. An Sionnach Fionn - May 23, 2017

Personally I don’t see all the fuss. Yeah, it has bad historical connotations. It will always carry the odour of the “Butcher’s Apron”. But if it’s for non-political, commercial purposes then why not?

And as you say, in a reunited Ireland we’re going to be seeing a lot more of it unless we can persuade the unionist minority to satisfy themselves with variations of the nine-county Ulster flag or Saint Patrick’s Saltire.


WorldbyStorm - May 23, 2017

Yes, precisely, and I figure it’s an easy enough compromise to make.


4. roddy - May 23, 2017

Did he declare the”new tyres” to the customs?


5. Starkadder - May 23, 2017

I have seen at least one supermarket in Cork city which hung the flags of all the EU states in its hallway, including the Butcher’s Apron.

(No, I don’t know why a supermarket would do this either 😉 ).

I agree with ASF, if people want to fly the UJ “if it’s for non-political, commercial purposes” then that is fine with me.

I’m far more disturbed at the number of Irish people who have no problem flying a white nationalist symbol from their cars and houses,

Yes, I’m talking about the Confederate flag AKA the , ANV battle flag,
which seems to be a disturbingly prolific symbol in Munster. I have seem black people in this country get visibly disturbed by seeing this flag flown-it has, since the 1950s, been a key symbol of opposition to black racial equality,


WorldbyStorm - May 23, 2017

I hate the Confederate flag. I know people in the rockin’ scene who also use it and seem blissfully unaware of its connotations.


6. baalthor - May 24, 2017

School in Cavan has flags from countries where kids are from originally, inc British flag


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