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Undemocratic… June 6, 2017

Posted by WorldbyStorm in Uncategorized.

I’d never thought of this before – not sure why, but sonofstan noted in comments that:

@MC -Some of my co-workers live in the neighbouring constituency of Buckingham, which is John Bercow’s constituency. It’s bad enough when the Ceann Comhairle thing means you lose one seat, but when you’re effectively disenfranchised in FPTP, it feels very unfair.
Mind you, MC, you do have the compensation of living in Somerset. Worse places.
What on earth can the justification for removing any democratic legitimation for an MP whatsoever? And for disenfranchising ‘their’ constituents.

And what of our own polity. At least we here have the option of voting, as SoS says, for other TDs in a constituency, but isn’t there something problematic about all this? And as we know, it’s not beyond gaming either…


1. An Sionnach Fionn - June 6, 2017

There have been suggestions that the Ceann Comhairle and LCC should be extra-parliamentary appointments, senior judges or some such state officers. The selection/vetting process would be by an Oireachtas committee with a PR vote in an Dáil for the chosen candidates.


WorldbyStorm - June 6, 2017

What would you think about that? I’m less and less happy about the way the current set up bypasses democratic legitimation.


An Sionnach Fionn - June 6, 2017

If the nominees for the two offices came from a regulated pool of possible candidates, judges or similar, who had to submit to approval by an all-party Oireachtas committee with final approval in Dáil Éireann it might have enough checks and balances to please most.

Has to better than the present system. That or you take two candidates from the Seanad and vet/vote them into the position of CC and LCC. They forego participation in Seanad Éireann for the duration of their office.


WorldbyStorm - June 6, 2017

Yeah, that makes sense. In a way almost anything would be better than the present system.


2. sonofstan - June 8, 2017

Further to this, my co-worker went to vote in Prince’s Risborough this morning, looked at the ballot paper and it offered UKIP/ Green/ Independent and Bercow. After considering spoiling his vote, he voted Green; then his dog wandered into the polling station. The clerk said ‘oh, she’s come to see what democracy is all about’
my mate responded: ‘we’ll she won’t find it here’


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