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What you want to say – 7th June 2017 June 7, 2017

Posted by WorldbyStorm in Uncategorized.

As always, following on Dr. X’s suggestion, it’s all yours, “announcements, general discussion, whatever you choose”, feel free.


1. Dermot O Connor - June 7, 2017

More polling, this time from the NW of England, good news.


QUOTE: Across the region, 46% of people said they’re planning to vote Labour later this week, compared to 40% who said that was their planned vote at the start of the election campaign. The proportion of respondents backing the Tories is at 21%, compared to 23% backing the party at the start of the campaign.

A similar survey at the start of May found 29% of respondents in the region said they were planning to vote Tory on June 8, compared to the 26% who said they voted for the party in 2015, while the Labour vote was at 48%, up from the 45% who said they had voted for the party in 2015.

A fifth of respondents who said they weren’t sure what their vote would be at the start of the campaign are now behind Labour (22%), compared to 3% who have decided to vote Conservative, although 68% still have not made up their minds.

Labour’s potentially improving prospects may be down in part to Jeremy Corbyn’s performance. 63% of respondents in the region think he’s had the best general election campaign.


2. sonofstan - June 7, 2017
3. Joe - June 7, 2017
4. ivorthorne - June 7, 2017

Anyone fancy calling the WM election results?

The polls are close. The “Don’t Knows” last day decision types seem to go to the Tories but Corbyn is massively popular with young people and IF they turn out in large numbers, it could be a “hung parliament”.

Fingers crossed!


irishelectionliterature - June 7, 2017

Will do a Separate Predictions thread


5. GW - June 7, 2017

I forgot to mention in the Signs of Hope some time ago that the Green Left in Holland proved to be made of more principled stuff than Greens have been – well it seems now for ever – but lets just say for some considerable time.

They refused to agree with the other parties on immigration controls and wanted to maintain open borders – in other words preserving the status quo.

They could not be bought off and consequently the most likely coalition will not come into being. The next most likely seems to have fallen by the wayside, so there’s either deadlock or a new election.

But kudos to Green Left.

In contrast, the German Greens are moving steadily to the right and have no perspectives other than to be a very junior partner is some CDU-dominated coalition.


6. Gerryboy - June 8, 2017

The British election opinion polls have been remarkable during the past seven weeks. I still have a hunch the Tories are going to have a majority, but not the landslide predicted at the beginning of campaigning. If Labour lose 15+ seats Corbyn will have to move over. If the tories win less than 20 seats May’s standing with her party will be lowered, and her performance during the campaign has been unimpressive. English voters are conservative with a small ‘c’ and it looks likely that Little Englander sentiments in traditionally Labour constituencies will hurt Labour’s chances. Blair’s new labour policies have left a bad legacy.


7. irishelectionliterature - June 8, 2017

I see Cllr Dermot Looney has joined The Social Democrats. Presumably will run in Dublin South West next time out.


8. sonofstan - June 12, 2017

“Don’t throw election leaflets away. Pls post to @BrisUniSpColl who collect them: Special Collections, Bristol University, Tyndale Av BS8 1TJ”

(tweet by Michael Crick)

@IEL – I presume you are aware of, and perhaps advise, these people?


9. sonofstan - June 12, 2017



He said her mental health was difficult to ascertain on admission because both she and her mother had thought they were being transferred to Dublin for an abortion and she was very agitated when she found that she was being admitted to a mental health unit.


WorldbyStorm - June 12, 2017

Vile isn’t it. Something genuinely horrifying about her treatment.


sonofstan - June 12, 2017

The beeb interviewed someone from the London-Irish ARC (Something Wells?) who had – or had seen? – a poster at the demo against the DUP lash up that read ‘I came over her to get away from this shite’

This is definitely that ‘shite’. How much longer?


sonofstan - June 12, 2017

‘came over here’


GW - June 12, 2017

Fundamentalist Catholic Ireland. Protecting souls by destroying lives.


6to5against - June 12, 2017

I read that in horror this morning. Reminds me of the chill I first felt reading of the X case many years ago. Had to believe but it seems that even the most anti-choice legislation in Europe is being interpreted in the most narrow way possible.


10. GW - June 12, 2017

Vive le Roi Emmanuel 1!


In the rest of Europe it looks like Macron will get kingly powers (originally designed to accommodate the ego of Charles de Gaulle) by being unopposed in the Assembly. And France is still run on the basis of a State of Emergency which has lasted it seems for ever.

Only 50% could be bothered to turn out for the first round of the elections.

The good news is that the Front National continue their downward slide.

There’s still a second round to go in a fortnight where first and second place in each constituency have a run off.

But it looks like opposition to whatever anti-worker legislation le Roi will push through will have to take place outside of parliament.


11. GW - June 12, 2017

British Labour needs to be very careful with its handling of Brexit during the next few months. Being in favour of ‘some kind of Brexit’ is not going to wash at the next election.

They got most of their gains in pro-Remain constituencies and the Tories (see David Davies today) are manoeuvring to ensure that Labour takes as much damage as possible from Brexit.

I hope Corbyn’s people bear this in mind and don’t get over-confident.


Jolly Red Giant - June 12, 2017

Corbyn needs to dump the Blairites by implementing mandatory re-selection of all MPs – then he won’t have 90% of his PLP attempting to shaft him every time he opens his mouth.


GW - June 12, 2017

True dat. I hope that the Tory/DUP arrangement lasts at least till the spring to allow him to put in place mandatory reselection.


6to5against - June 12, 2017

Isn’t it extraordinary how controversial the whole reselection thing is? Surely its the norm in any parliamentary democracy that a party has control over its own candidates at each election. The idea that you can somehow continue with a party’s banner no matter what you have done in the previous few years seems pretty odd.

Its not even – or shouldn’t even – be a right/left thing. Would the Tories be happy with a candidate that had gone rogue and started arguing for equality and social justice etc…..


12. ar scáth a chéile - June 12, 2017

Bit of a Seamus Darby by Jonnie Waters for the goal yesterday – not that I’m complaining


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