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Signs of Hope – A continuing series July 13, 2017

Posted by WorldbyStorm in Uncategorized.
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Gewerkschaftler suggested this recently:

I suggest this blog should have a regular (weekly) slot where people can post happenings at the personal or political level that gives them hope that we’re perhaps not going to hell in a handbasket as quickly as we thought. Or as the phlegmatic Germans put it “hope dies last”.

Any contributions this week?

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1. GW - July 13, 2017

Erm…

Plenty of rain and not too much heat. Central European trees and farmers happy here, so far.

How’s the growing season in Ireland?

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Joe - July 14, 2017

Don’t know about the farmers but this urban gardener is happy enough. Broccoli was very good this year. Nice curly cale growing very well – though not being eaten much! A few spuds too. Lots of lettuce, most of it left to the caterpillars and slugs. The blackcurrant bush wasn’t as full of fruit as in previous years. But the little apple tree, grown from the seed of a shop-bought apple, is full of small fruit. Problem is those apples don’t grow any bigger, just get very red-skinned but taste dry and meh. Should try to make jam or cider or something with them this year. Found my first mushroom yesterday in the secret patch in the football field beside me.
Summer time joy.

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Michael Carley - July 14, 2017

In South West England: brassicas are struggling on (kale has done alright, waiting to see on the rest); some nice unusual lettuce and related (endive and such); beetroot and chard doing well; leeks doing grand; Jerusalem artichokes have reached great heights; quinoa a complete disaster.

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Joe - July 14, 2017

Quinoa a complete disaster? You’re obviously not pronouncing it right.

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Michael Carley - July 14, 2017

I was more concerned with being an utter Bath stereotype. I’ve grown a beard since then too. No tats though.

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GW - July 14, 2017

Quinoa – there’s posh! But I’d like to have a go – perhaps a plant pot next year. Do you need to buy seed or can you go to your stereotypical health food emporium?

I remember reading somewhere that lentils were a significant source of protein in Ireland in the past – has anyone any experience with them?

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Michael Carley - July 17, 2017

I gave the quinoa a go because it was being offered by my usual supplier, an excellent outfit who specialize in tasty reliable crops for the homegrower and encourage to save seeds (they sell mostly heritage type varieties, and no F1s). They will ship to Germany:

http://www.realseeds.co.uk/

I will try quinoa again. I think I might have planted it a bit too early this year and the slugs levelled it before it had a chance to get going.

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Michael Carley - July 17, 2017

Lentils? In Ireland?

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2. Joe - July 14, 2017

Sign of hope. The Twelfth seems to have gone off very peacefully again this year. I didn’t see anything on the news about the standoff in Ardoyne – that particular flashpoint appears to have fizzled out.
Nice piece in the IT about the parade and the day in Fermanagh. All very peaceful and harmless. I know most of the people on here will point to the bonfires in urban, working class areas and the naked sectarianism on display. But that’s not the whole story by any means.

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GW - July 14, 2017

Yes – that is a plus – let’s hope a peaceful 12/7 becomes the rule.

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WorldbyStorm - July 14, 2017

Just to be clear as was stated here the other day its not all 12th events that are a problem but frankly the lack if leadership from the DUP and others in relation to even acknowledging that some are. No disagreement that it has gone relatively well so far and that’s indeed a reason to be cheerful or at least a bit more cheerful

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3. roddy - July 14, 2017

Ardoyne has “fizzled out” because the orange order had to recognize eventually that the people of Ardoyne had rights .The situation now is that while they can use that route to go to the main demo, no more “return marches” in the evening will be applied for without the consent of Ardoynes residents.This came about because of dialogue in the most difficult circumstances.While the marching issue is at its most peaceful for decades and in my own area where Republicanism is the overwhelming electoral voice of the locals ,the local “lodge”marches without rancour,it would be a mistake to ignore what orangeism is politically.Rural people having a day out ,many just following a family tradition is fine and well .Indeed I encountered the local lodge as they gathered up to head to the main demo 15 miles away and some of their number acknowledged me in a friendly manner as I passed.Despite this the speeches at these main demos would be highly reactionary and would be completely at odds with everything people on here would stand for.Yes many of the people attending are indeed harmless but the philosophy being promoted certainly is not.

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GW - July 14, 2017

That’s the core of the problem, Roddy – as a cultural phenomenon
the Orange marches are part of the ‘equality of esteem’ process, but the reactionary rhetoric can so easily tip over into the kind of behaviour we’ve seen in the past. Only when that rhetoric is ‘decommissioned’ will we see some lasting progress.

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Joe - July 14, 2017

Thanks. Clearly the ‘fizzled out’ comment was unfair on my part. The current situation came about because of dialogue in the most difficult circumstances. Dialogue is good. More hope.

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4. dublinstreams - July 14, 2017

The success of the student divestment movement in Ireland http://greennews.ie/interview-success-student-divestment-movement-ireland/ yes so rare a win, hope TCD folllows through, also establishing the All-Ireland Student Activist Network.

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5. Joe - July 17, 2017

Twenty year anniversary of the first IRA ceasefire (or was it the second and final one?). Anyway twenty years and counting … in hope.

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