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The song remains the same… July 13, 2017

Posted by WorldbyStorm in Uncategorized.

Michael McDowell writing in the SBP on foot of the most recent poll returns to an old bugbear of his. He suggests that the only options apparent in relation to the poll is likely a continuation of the status quo – with either FG or FF in government or a grand coalition. If the former ‘middle Ireland will e faced with a continuation of the appalling ‘new politics’ or increased leverage for the far left over the powers of government…

But… a ray of sunshine, of hope!

This bleak scenario could open the door for the emergence of a new political grouping which would sell itself to middle Ireland as a competent and willing potential partner for either FF or FG, or as partner in a three way coalition including both FF and FG.


Some may say that times are not auspicious for the mergence of such a new grouping and might point to the poor performances of the SDs and Renua. But whatever factors militated against their success there still is an immense opportunity to put in place the driving component of a new government.


But does that makes sense? What factors militated against their success? Surely those have to be critical any analysis of why they haven’t made inroads beyond the obvious? And if there is an appetite why hasn’t it been evident? And why would what is effectively a sort of FF mini-me an answer to the supposed problem?


1. An Sionnach Fionn - July 13, 2017

Hasn’t that been the function and purpose of Labour since the 1930s? And isn’t that part of the reason why voters punished it in the last election? It failed to provide a break on the right-wing instincts of its partner in government by becoming more Fine Gael than Fine Gael itself?


WorldbyStorm - July 13, 2017

Yes, and on a slight thinking about your point I wonder was a strategic decision taken in the LP in the 2000s to occupy (ie grab) part of the support base of the PDs as that party crashed?


An Sionnach Fionn - July 13, 2017

A decision not unrelated to the rise of former DL politicos to leadership positions within Labour’s ranks?


WorldbyStorm - July 13, 2017

Very possibly.


2. roddy - July 13, 2017

PDs were selected as LAB candidates.


3. dublinstreams - July 13, 2017

A new grouping did emerge the Independent Alliance, “driving compenent”? well Ross is Minister for Transport.


4. Aengus Millen - July 13, 2017

I think the cases of both Renua and SD’s are sui generis. Renua is an unnecessary single issue party why vote for an avowedly socially backwards party when you could vote for FF and get the same result. As for the social democrats they emerged at the wrong time when all the left and center-left space was taken up by Sinn Fein and the farther left parties. Still while neither was his center-right wet dream I think they do show that there’s not a space for a new-fangled party. If people wanted a milquetoast coalition partner for FF and FG there would be greater support for the LP and the GP. Anyway I have not followed his career closely but you would think he would know from the career of his own party and the way it was by turns strangled and co-opted by FF that these parties are either of little effect or they are squashed.


5. Lamentreat - July 13, 2017

Sounds like an old geezer longing for the days of his youth: “Ah, if I were only 30 years younger… I’d set up the PDs all over again!”


sonofstan - July 13, 2017

Reunions never work – but if they did get back together the song would remain the same; they’d be trampled underfoot. (sorry)


RosencrantzisDead - July 13, 2017

What, if some day or night a demon were to steal after you into your loneliest loneliness and say to you: “This life as you now live it and have lived it, you will have to live once more and innumerable times more; and there will be nothing new in it, but every pain and every joy and every thought and sigh and everything unutterably small or great in your life will have to return to you, all in the same succession and sequence…

McDowell: Oh joy, oh life! To do all the same right-wing shite I did, over and over again! What glorious news!


sonofstan - July 14, 2017

Weird, that’s the second time I’ve had my attention drawn to that Nietzsche quote today. Eternal recurrence isn’t supposed to come around that quickly…

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6. roddy - July 13, 2017

One of the most annoying things was the initials PD went from describing one of the most radical and honourable leftist groups in Irish politics to becoming short hand for O’Malleys thatcherites.


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