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They don’t get the Brexit border issue – Number 2 of a continuing series… August 9, 2017

Posted by WorldbyStorm in Uncategorized.

Again, in ‘They don’t get it’ category, Former British government Brexit minister David Jones was interviewed on the radio about Varadkar’s deviation from the former approach of Enda Kenny in relation to Brexit.

“There’s been a change in tone since Leo Varadkar took office, that’s regrettable”, Mr Jones said this morning.
In recent comments about what the border between North and South might look like after Brexit, Mr Varadkar said Dublin was “not going to design a border for the Brexiteers”.


Mr Jones said Mr Kenny was “well disposed” towards finding a technological solution, while Mr Varadkar had spoken in terms of a Border “in the middle of the Irish Sea.”
He suggested that Mr Varadkar should consider the “seamless and frictionless” borders that operate between the USA and Canada and between Norway and Sweden.
“These are customs posts rather than border posts,” he told RTÉ’s Morning Ireland.

Remarkable. Brilliant. Priceless.

This demonstrates once more how poorly understood all this is. It doesn’t matter a damn if it is a customs rather than a border post (though that distinction is one utterly without meaning in this context). The reality is that this is a post.

Place installations along the border and that is asking for trouble, as noted here previously.
These guys aren’t even trying. Small wonder Varadkar has changed his tone.


1. Michael Carley - August 9, 2017

And it would appear that Ireland has all the cards at the moment:

Hence its requirement for a long transitional period: even 2022, as mooted by UK chancellor Philip Hammond, may even be highly optimistic.

But – from an Irish perspective – this changes everything. Under article 50, it is indeed possible for the member state that is exiting to seek to extend the remit of the EU treaties beyond the stipulated two years.

This is what a transitional period would have to mean.

But – and here’s the rub – this can be done only with the unanimous consent of every other member state. In other words, Ireland has a veto.

We can now block the implementation of a transitional deal even if Germany and France and every other member state wants it to happen. The chaotic foolishness of the Brexiteers has, to coin a phrase, allowed us to take back control.



simonjkyte - August 9, 2017

hammond will probably challenge for leader at the end of the year


Alibaba - August 9, 2017

I’ve long since believed that Theresa May would not last as PM, although I can see the best counter-argument: you don’t change the horse in the race.

I don’t see how the Fintan O’Toole argument is a clincher. Should the Irish state use the veto to ensure exit by March 2019 – and I don’t think it will – so what? What does it matter how long the transitional period goes and how does shunting them out within the stipulated time frame help us? We simply don’t know. UK was always a semi-detached EU member. Anything is possible, I suggest.


simonjkyte - August 9, 2017

She can’t resign. But she can be pushed.


Michael Carley - August 9, 2017

I don’t think Ireland will push the UK out in 2019, but it is in a position to extract concessions in return for a deal in 2022. The trouble is, I don’t think Varadkar et al. know how to play a strong hand well.


WorldbyStorm - August 9, 2017

Alibaba +1 re UK being semi detached


2. FergusD - August 9, 2017

The Daily Mail would never allow Hammond to take over and it seems to be the Daily Mail that decides these things now. Where have “the men in grey suits” gone? I am genuinely puzzled, the Tories used to have the steadying hand of the “éminences grises”. The ones who told the sainted Margaret it was time to go – where have they gone?


GW - August 9, 2017

I think ultimately the Tory party membership decides or needs to be convinced these days and they are mainly little-Englander Dail-Mail reading types. Thus the prominence of David Davis, Michael Gove etc.

Probably a post-Thatcher phenomenon but I don’t know enough about the British Tory party to be sure.


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