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New FF Northern Dawn Fades November 9, 2018

Posted by WorldbyStorm in Uncategorized.
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The Phoenix was scathing over the solo run by Eamon Ó Cuiv, Mark Daly and Sorcha McAnespy in the North over an FF local council candidacy. The ‘event’ they trailed McAnespy at as an openly FF candidate was disavowed by FF more broadly. And now Ó Cuiv has been removed from the FF front bench.  One might think that the proximate issue would see some sort of public statement from Ó Cuiv, but apparently not:

Tweeting in Irish, Mr Ó Cuív said he will not be making any further statement on the matter.

 

But this is all of a piece with the confusion in FF over the SDLP on again, off again merger approach. Indeed the Phoenix is, if anything, more scathing about that issue. And it suggests that ‘with five months before the north’s council elections, it’s to late for any merger or rebounding exercise, even if both parties wanted it’. And so the status quo abides, FF remaining in the south, the SDLP being the SDLP and so on. It’s worth noting that next time anyone bemoans the supposed loss of the NI centre-ground to extremists (the DUP, yes, but SF always part of that particularly definition – though given how SF appear to be working in tandem with Alliance and the GP on a range of Brexit related issues and more or less as one with FG on the same issues the idea of them being ‘extreme’ seems overstated) now fingers can point straight back at many of those making that claim and state that when push came to shove no one was willing to put their money where their mouth was.

The question as to whether this is a surprise given the utter lack of willingness by the larger political formations in the South to engage productively with those in the North – or have an all-island aspect, is really no question at all.

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1. Aengus Millen - November 9, 2018

I mean this is generally a non-story but I guess two aspects are interesting. First while all of FF is conservative the older parts do hold on to a reflexive republicanism that the younger generation of FF has clearly given up. It will be interesting to see if this leads to further ructions in the party like the whole launch not a launch thing. The other connected thing is to ask why FF is so unwilling to consummate it’s move up north. I have to think at least part of the reason is that if FF became part of the political scene up north they would have to give up one of their favorite attack lines against Sinn Fein. They would be involved in the government formation process and they would have to abandon the faints they’ve made towards rhetorical neutrality on partition. Anyway this has been Fianna Fail’s form for decades as David McCullagh pointed out in an interview for his new biography of Dev, he claimed to care about partition as one of his main issues but never was able to engage with it in realistic terms after 1932.

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2. WorldbyStorm - November 9, 2018

“I have to think at least part of the reason is that if FF became part of the political scene up north they would have to give up one of their favorite attack lines against Sinn Fein. They would be involved in the government formation process and they would have to abandon the faints they’ve made towards rhetorical neutrality on partition. ”

+1 and that would mean they’d actually be found out and that rhetoric would be found out for being entirely hollow.

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3. irishelectionliterature - November 9, 2018

Daly and Ó’Cuiv (although it’s rumoured that Ó’Cuiv was setup by Daly but didn’t want to admit it, hence when asked by Martin did he know it was a candidate launch he replied that he did rather than lose face) were trying to force the issue of FF standing in the North. Interesting too if anything happens to Sorcha McAnespy, or did she know this was going to happen, it wasn’t sanctioned etc etc
As it stands FF might manage to field a dozen candidates with possibly 2 or 3 winning a Council seat. Indeed they might win none. Whats the point of a gamble like that? So really given the proximity of the Local elections the SDLP merger is the only real option for FF. If it does happen the indications are that the SDLP will split.

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4. An Sionnach Fionn - November 9, 2018

I’d be less surprised to see Fine Gael standing in the north than Fianna Fáil. FF seems completely bereft of any ideological raison d’être beyond being Not-Fine-Gael.

Its whole attitude to Brexit has been deplorable, trying to out-blue the Blueshirts at a time when the latter sounds more soldierly than the Soldiers of Destiny.

Martin is a non-entity of a leader, bereft of vision or core beliefs beyond staying at the head of FF in the hope that Leo and company makes some terrible mistakes or series of mistakes so that he can sneak into power.

Martins’ highest ambition is to be the Accidental Taoiseach.

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EWI - November 9, 2018

Agree that this was an effort by Daly and Ó Cuiv (the only two I’m really conscious of as actual Republicans in the modern FF) to biunce the issue beyond Martin’s rather lame use of it as an anti-PSF rhetorical tool.

Martin followed up this morning by Instagramming himself gazing respectfully at that obscene pop-up British war memorial in St. Stephen’s Green.

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