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History repeating… June 11, 2019

Posted by WorldbyStorm in Uncategorized.

Odd to read this in the Guardian about ChangeUK which is now much reduced. For the new clean break in UK politics it reminds me very very strongly of the SDP. Granted not the initial SDP but rather the one that remained after most of that party coalesced with the Liberals.

Some of the reported disputes bordered on farce, such as the party almost missing a print deadline for its European election leaflets because one MP wanted a different photograph, and official social media feeds being stopped at the instructions of one member, and then tacitly resumed by another.
Meanwhile, sources amid those who quit argue that Soubry and Leslie – whose spouses are respectively treasurer and chief executive of the party – sought to run Change UK “like a Soviet state”.
Soubry says she will stay as leader until an autumn conference, and has ruled out any idea of joining up with the Lib Dems.

That rump SDP also refused to countenance working with or joining the Liberals – and even after the establishment of the Liberal Democrats plied its lonely furrow to irrelevance. But this, this is like the speeded up version, amazingly so. And yet, and yet, even though those who have left CUK have departed so far just for the Independent benches the trajectory of their direction of travel is self-evident. For a ‘centrist’ where else is there to go – there’s already a large centre right party in situ. Trying to reinvent the wheel is a pointless waste of time.

What additional extra does Soubry expect? What niche does she believe CUK can inhabit? I’m at a loss to see one unless she actually sees CUK as right of centre, marginally left of the Tories.

Oddly enough it takes Vince Cable to say it as it is…

First of all, they went too soon.” A second problem, recalls this veteran of the SDP’s founding in 1981, is “if you contrast the leadership today of Change UK with the SDP leadership 30 years ago, we’re talking different league altogether. [Roy] Jenkins, [David] Owen, all the rest of them. And also [the SDP] was incredibly well planned. I mean, they had planned it for two years, and it was done in association with David Steel. It was a really serious attempt to break the mould. This [Change UK] just sort of happened at a fairly low level.“They rushed into an election without realising that you need an infrastructure to fight an election, and then made elementary mistakes. I mean, it’s sad in a way, because I like the people. We agree with them on almost everything.” (Which is slightly odd, because a moment earlier he had diagnosed Change UK’s greatest problem as “the fact that they were trying to launch a new organisation which didn’t have any intellectual or political coherence at the heart of it”.)
But there was another mistake, says Cable. “I did urge that we work together, but they decided to compete. Anyway, they’ve had, I think, a chastening experience, and we’ll see what happens.”


1. Dermot M O Connor - June 11, 2019

Holy crap, the SDP has an MEP! (well, until July this year). Seems he barely beat the monster raving loony party (by about a dozen votes) in the recent Peterborough election.


As of 2019, the SDP had two councillors. It gained its first European parliamentarian when Patrick O’Flynn, Member of the European Parliament for East of England, defected to the SDP from the UK Independence Party in November 2018.

UKIP? Whaa? This explains it:

The SDP’s orientation is Eurosceptic. Whilst a majority of the founders of the original SDP in 1981 were pro-EC, the continuing SDP voted against the concept of a United States of Europe at its conference at Scarborough in 1989 and the 1990 party’s Eurosceptic position developed from there. As of March 2019, the party advocated the UK leaving the European Union on WTO terms in the absence of a better deal on offer.[23] Summarising, SDP leader Clouston said in 2018: “We’d describe ourselves as pro-European but EU sceptic”.


Re the chukky changies trying to compete with libdems instead of alliance: do they not know how the FPTP system works?


2. Hugh Murphy - June 14, 2019

Why is there a media blackout on this? And what has happened to the independence of Theatre in Ireland? My censored play ‘The Judas Goat’ is an Irish On The Waterfront. This censoring has led to all my plays being censored – so not to give me any clout and able to demand that ‘The Judas Goat’ be staged – and for the “Free Press” who [self censor] to report on this unbelievable scandal. An early draft is on my profile page on linkedin. This play is set at Belfast Docks and is a true story. It shows how 50 years ago the Union chairman joined his union branch with the employers. He even ordered the Dockers to discharge Asbestos without protection to save the employers money. For documentary proof of the Union and Employers Court which termed itself ‘The Joint Disciplinary Committee’ see my posts and http://www.siptupresidentjackoconnorexposed.com You may have to type in the address as sometimes the link doesn’t work] Then open UTV’s programme ‘Death Trap on the Docks’ on youtube and see dying Dockers and widows relate their unbelievable stories. This was the first time in Trade Union history, anywhere in the world that a trade union persecuted, sacked and ordered to their death its own members and their families. And also the first time anywhere in the world that an employer was a trade union member. After forming the diabolical ‘Union and Employers Court’ the chairman left the union and joined the employers as Labour Controller and brought his corruption to an even more disgusting level. The Court scene is missing from the draft on my profile page which I tightened up considerably.] However and unbelievably the now ex union chairman was allowed to remain a Union Member – by both head office in Dublin and The Irish Congress of Trade Unions – so much so that ten years ago he received his 50 year long service badge from Jack O’Connor – the then Union president. The cover up of corruption beggars belief. Neither O’Connor or Norman Shannon, the Belfast solicitor who sat on my case for seven years, until it became Statute Barred will sue me for calling them Corrupt and putting their corruption on linkedin. [See my posts] The documentary evidence of the Court on the website is is what SIPTU, which ITGWU morphed into, [it is still the same Union] and the Employers are covering up. However, the banner heading of the Court says it all. NORTHERN IRELAND FEDERATION OF EMPLOYERS AND IRISH TRANSPORT AND GENERAL WORKERS UNION JOINT DISCIPLINARY COMMITTEE. Any wonder SIPTU officials are using their friends in the Arts to censor this play. Also on the website is a letter to Jack O’Connor from his own Belfast solicitor, one John O’Neill of Thompson McClures, Belfast, stating that his Union ‘did’ sack its own members at Belfast Docks. He also tries to exonerate the Union, by totally ignoring the fact that a Trade Union cannot Lawfully sack and persecute its own members. See also the letters from ICTU and the Union in the 1970’s – proving they knew what was going on but choose to ignore it. Why, who bought them off and how much were they paid? Was it the same people who bought off Norman Shannon? See the Proof for yourself on the website. However the censorship has not stopped me writing as I’ve just completed a trilogy of plays set in a Hostel for the Homeless in Dublin. Regards, Hugh


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