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Last night’s debate January 28, 2020

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Anyone watch the slugfest on RTÉ between the 7 party ‘leaders’. That last can’t have been right because the further left was represented by RBB – good as usual, but so many there that even he was finding it difficult to get through. Some fun sniping between Varadkar and Shortall over the not too distant past. M. Martin clearly prepped to use the term ‘Provisionals’ where possible. Ryan oddly detached I thought, but others may differ. MLM did no harm to her cause. Howlin somewhat peripheral?

And what of the questions from the audience?

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1. Paddy Healy - January 28, 2020

Howlin Not Only Peripheral in the Debate!

Labour flirting with irrelevancy, writes Prof Gary Murphy.
The party has not been forgiven for the austerity measures of its coalition with Fine Gael and will struggle to hold its seven seats.
If a week is a long time in politics, a decade is an aeon. In the frenzy of the first 10 days of the election campaign, Labour has become an irrelevance.—Irish Examiner 28/01/2020

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2. irishelectionliterature - January 28, 2020

Thought RBB did well and Mary Lou too. It was an evening for soundbites and snappy answers. Varadkar did OK. Martin OK , Howlin was Howlin and neither Ryan or Shortall made much of an impression.

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Paul Culloty - January 28, 2020

Shortall’s major failing was that she was OK while making her points, but was non-existent in terms of actually getting involved in the cut and thrust of the debate. Howlin might as well have stayed at home, no evidence that he can resurrect Labour, and Ryan was somewhat weaker than might have been anticipated. Overall, RBB won the day, but unlikely to affect his seat numbers, and Varadkar finished stronger than Martin, but not to the extent of converting undecideds.

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3. ar scáth a chéile - January 28, 2020

Thought Shorthall’s closing pitch was very effective. Martin spoke with true believer conviction about our sacred enterprise economy and didnt sound remotely left of centre. RBB MLM had a good night,and

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4. ar scáth a chéile - January 28, 2020

That should read “RBB and MLM had a good night,”

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5. CL - January 28, 2020

“Watch even a snippet of last night’s seven-way leaders’ debate on RTÉ and the incentive for Fine Gael to shift the debate onto Brexit and away from their patchy stewardship of public services is clear….”
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2020/01/leo-varadkar-s-brexit-comments-highlight-big-problem-conservatives

“Britain must “come to terms with the fact it’s now a small country”, the Irish Prime Minister has said, in comments that prompted outrage just days before Brexit.
Leo Varadkar also suggested the UK could rejoin the EU if Brexit does not “work out for them” and said Brussels would have the “stronger hand” in trade negotiations.
The Taoiseach’s comments, which come before trade talks begin in March, appeared to be deliberately provocative in a week which will end with Britain celebrating its new-found freedom from the EU.”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/01/27/brexit-latest-news-day-boris-johnson-keir-starmer-labour/

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NFB - January 28, 2020

Howlin was a disaster. Alan Kelly is licking his lips I’m sure. If he’s reelected.

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Daire O'Criodain - January 28, 2020

When is Alan Kelly not (at least mentally) licking his lips? If Labour end up with no more seats than currently, Kelly will have to lead a march longer than Mao’s to get back to the centre of things, and with Sinn Féin barring his way. But M Martin has led FF out of the intensive care ward, so who knows.

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CL - January 28, 2020

“By stoking toxic Anglophobia, Leo Varadkar is digging his own political grave.
Rousing the ancient spectre of nationalism will help Sinn Fein by normalising their beliefs
Leo Varadkar likes to think of himself as a modern, liberal, laid back statesman, but Ireland’s prime minister proved this week that he’s not above the age-old ploy of rattling a sabre in the face of traditional enemies abroad to make himself look tough to voters back home….
What’s really spooking Varadkar is the rise of Sinn Fein…
It’s not only younger voters with short memories who are being tempted by a party which still takes its orders from the IRA Army Council. Older voters who suffered during the financial crash also want change….
People in the Irish Republic always liked to boast that they were above the tribal hostilities of the North, but it hasn’t taken much recently to dredge it up again.

Brit-bashing may have helped Varadkar domestically in those early post-referendum days, but, in trying to pull the same trick again, he’s just enabling forces which are much better at it than he is, and made himself look the smaller man into the bargain. Either that, or he’s already accepted defeat and is now just using the election to pitch for a plum job in Brussels.”- Eilis O’Hanlon
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/01/28/stoking-toxic-anglophobia-varadkar-digging-political-grave/

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road bowling correspondent - January 28, 2020

Et tu Leo?
This is going to be the biggest ‘republican majority’ since 1919.

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6. Alibaba - January 28, 2020

Richard Boyd Barrett struck me as the debate winner with his characteristic on-message, finger-pointing righteous ways. That’s an upswing for PBP, notably them alone. I’ve seen Mary Lou McDonald perform much better though her performance was robust considering the endless taunting and digs, especially from Micheál Martin.

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