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Huh? February 11, 2020

Posted by WorldbyStorm in Uncategorized.

Am I misreading this, from the usually pretty solid Lisa O’Carroll in the Guardian, writing a Q&A about the election result and SF and Brexit.

How will the result go down in the UK?

Sinn Féin, founded in 1905 before the establishment of the Irish state, has been politically active in Northern Ireland for decades but has refused to take its seats in Westminster.

However, when McDonald took over from Gerry Adams as president, the party redoubled efforts to gain influence in London, in politics and the media.
While Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil have decades of dealing with the Conservative party, Sinn Féin does not, as its long term goal of a united Ireland would in effect break up the United Kingdom.

So clearly that wouldn’t be the Sinn Féin the Conservative party has been ‘dealing with’ the past ten years in relation to the Northern Ireland Executive and Assembly. No, presumably not.


1. gypsybhoy69 - February 11, 2020

I said it here in the wee hours of Sunday/Monday, the one bit of pleasure in all of this, for an ex-stick like myself is the high level of middle class angst. And there truly has been a lot of shite spoken from the commentariat. I’m sure there’s more to come. You could open up a thread on it’s own with priceless tweets from them in the last day or two.

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gypsybhoy69 - February 11, 2020

Exhibit A

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2. Roger Cole - February 11, 2020

The sooner the British Imperial State breaks up the better for everybody, the Irish, the Scots, the Welsh and the English. Shorn of its imperial culture,and its massive military expenditure they could all look forward to a better standard of living

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3. Colm B - February 11, 2020

The level of ignorance regarding Irish politics in UK, especially re SF, is astounding. All talk of nationalism and populism. What many just don’t get is that its about a widespread desire for socioeconomic change that is not populist – what kind of ‘populist’ party doesnt target immigrants but defends them, focuses on taxing the wealthy rather than ranting about elites etc. etc..

The failure to see that SF is a standard centre-left party, albeit with a nationalist tinge, will of course be reinforced by the obviously sentimentalist “Up the RA”, Dessie’s fans singing “Come Out Ye Black n Tans” etc. But these are just the same as the British Labour Party singing the Red Flag even under Blair – keeps the troops happy but has little relevance to the party’s policies or overall trajectory.

On both sides of the water, so-called experts and journos pay more attention to a few Shinners belting out an old ballad, than they do to the motivations of thousands of people from Finglas who voted for Dessie as a clear message that they definitely were not putting up with business as usual.

Like gypsybhoy I cant help enjoying the discomfort of the commentariat. Their “End of the world is nigh” wailing is laughable. And best of all, our old friends of the Industrial Cumainn/Research Section led by He Who Must Be Obeyed are working themselves up into a spin worthy of a dervish, stuck in the 1980s “Provos are fascists” groove. Anyone for The Broad Black Brimmer…?

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4. Phil - February 11, 2020

I remember a time when I’d tut & sit ostentatiously silent if I was ever in a folk club and somebody sang “Down by the glenside”. For a few years now I’ve been belting out the chorus when the opportunity arises, and if the news continues the way it is – and continues to be reported the way it is – I’ll be singing the damn thing myself. In the street.

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CL - February 11, 2020

Is Senator Black seeking re-election to Seanad Eireann?


benmadigan - February 11, 2020

In the Irish republic there is freedom to sing rebel songs, despite the PC brigade!



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