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Brendan Howlin Resigns as Labour Party Leader February 12, 2020

Posted by irishelectionliterature in Uncategorized.
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There was a time when a Labour leader resigning would have been big news, now well it’s news. Talk Howlin is going for the Ceann Comhairles job.
Ged Nash , Alan Kelly and Aodhán Ó Ríordáin presumably in the hat for the leaders job… thats assuming they don’t make it a fait accompli like they did in the last Leadership contest.
Hard to see how a new leader can reverse their fortunes too much at the minute.

 

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1. Ciaran Moore - February 12, 2020

On the CC job – will Howlin still count towards the needed 6 for Labour to be a Dáil grouping if he gets it?

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Paul Culloty - February 12, 2020

As it transpires, he doesn’t want it:

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Joe - February 12, 2020

As the missus would say: “That means he does”.

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2. Paul Culloty - February 12, 2020

It was posted here earlier in the week that the quorum was five, so they would still meet that threshold without him:

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/parties-with-five-tds-to-be-awarded-speaking-rights-in-dáil-1.2599617?mode=amp

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3. NFB - February 12, 2020

You’d imagine it’s Kelly’s moment. No matter what I think of the man, I believe Labour would have been a better position electorally right now if they had gone with him three years ago. Howlin has been a total disaster, since the moment he insisted he would only run for the leadership if he was unopposed.

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irishelectionliterature - February 12, 2020

Kelly is an impressive performer, yes he’s not liked by a lot of people but when you are down to six seats even getting it up to 10 is a massive success.

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NFB - February 12, 2020

Yeah, he has a certain energy about him, for lack of a better term, and I think he is genuinely knowledgeable about his briefs. And none of the other four TD’s really jumps out to me as the kind if person to revitalise the party, except for maybe O’Riordan.

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oliverbohs - February 12, 2020

Let’s just forget that time, four years ago, when he had Ireland’s most famous sports administrator helping him with some election canvassing 🙄

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rockroots - February 12, 2020

Wait a minute… I distinctly remember when Joan Burton resigned, Alan Kelly couldn’t even persuade one TD to second his nomination of himself. The understanding was that Howlin would stand in until either O’Riordan or Nash was back in the Dail. Now they both are and… hey presto! Kelly won’t be leader.

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4. 6to5against - February 12, 2020

I think Kelly was badly damaged by his role in the water charges debacle. If only because it links him to the austerity/bailout years.
At times, we assume that it’s only the sort that might be found on here that remembers these things, but surely the last election would suggest that the electorate, in general, pay more than passing attention to such things.
A party that has fallen so low needs to do something radical to get itself back in the game. In a better scenario, they would have had even a handful of new TDs elected who could form the nucleus of a new vision for the party – but that wasn’t to be.
I think they should look outside the Dail for a new leader, and let them lead from the Seanad. And their first act should be to clear out the candidate list. Look at the crowd they had running last week: https://www.labour.ie/people/

Desperate times and all that…

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5. Tomboktu - February 12, 2020

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6. roastedsnow1 - February 13, 2020

The big test for Labour is how they now relate to invitations by SF to form a left government. Simple as.

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7. irishelectionliterature - February 13, 2020

Labour did very poorly in this election, lost one seat and really were only in contention in one other (Jack Wall in Kildare South). They were fairly transfer toxic.
It appears that they won’t even talk with Sinn Féin. SO much for a Government of the left!!!
By refusing to even do so they enter further into the FF/FG side of the electorate, alienating their traditional base and set for further falls.

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6to5against - February 13, 2020

I presume the electoral logic of not talking to SF, and the distaste they have always shown for other left parties, is based on the idea that they are, or should be, the one true party of the left. By dismissing their opponents, they could argue that votes for them were wasted: the LP would be the only lefties to have a say in government.

The only problem is that if they stick to that logic now, the inverse is true. They are (almost) the only left grouping not likely to have a say in govt – and therefore, by their own logic, a vote for them is now wasted.

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oliverbohs - February 13, 2020

Things may change regarding who is worthy of working with the LP depending on the new leader. This is all four years too late. A lot of the cool kids with vitality and openness to new ideas wd be in other parties. Labour’s inability to appeal to lower middle class/working class/non-urban dwellers is at the moment being spun as a badge of honour by apeing M Martin

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irishelectionliterature - February 14, 2020

I think they didn’t entertain going in with SF for a number of factors but mainly as what support they have is from the Middle class. They polled best among ABC1 (I think the category is) who I’d imagine are the most anti SF voters out there.

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timble - February 13, 2020

They haven’t said they won’t talk to SF. They will talk policy but won’t go into Gov. In the context of a huge surge to SF and the Greens they did well to hold 6 and refresh the faces.

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6to5against - February 14, 2020

But did they refresh the faces?

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8. irishelectionliterature - February 18, 2020

I see Ged Nash won’t be contesting the Leadership. So probably a contest between Alan Kelly and Aodhán Ó Ríordáin.

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