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What is wrong with these people? April 10, 2020

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The Guardian has a piece on how the US right continues to try to minimise the deaths from the virus.

But several media figures who are sympathetic to the president have started to question the official death toll, claiming it is being distorted for political purposes, by including in the statistics people dying of other causes.

It’s both depressing and fascinating. One has to wonder is it a perfect example of avoidance? It’s as if these folk just can’t get their heads around the reality. A reality that, in fact according to those interview in the piece, is likely to be much much worse than that outlined by the right.

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1. CL - April 10, 2020

“If the United States is to be run by a man who has perfected the paranoid style, the least its citizens might expect is a little of that paranoia when it is actually needed. …
Belief in the seriousness of the threat is a prerequisite for self-protection (not to mention for reducing the spread of the virus)—Trump’s undermining of that belief is literally lethal to his own supporters….
Trump showed support for the belief not just that the restrictions on social gatherings could be defied, or even that they should be defied, but that they must be defied….
Should he use his authority and influence to protect his own vulnerable voters by imposing speedy and drastic controls on movement and social life? Or should he appeal to the lumpen libertarianism of Fox News and the Republican donor base and tell those voters to live free and die? The profound confusion in Trump’s response resulted from his attempt to do both at the same time, simultaneously evoking fear and nonchalance”
https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2020/05/14/vector-in-chief/

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2. Ned Corcaigh - April 10, 2020

Underplaying the significance of the pandemic also seems to have become a trope on the Irish alt-right such as it is. O’Doherty and the obvious loons in various comments sections are pushing that line as are, in a slightly subtler fashion, the whole Iona cohort. In fact there’s almost a direct correlation between ideology and concern about the virus which seems to be repeated on a global basis. Though obviously ‘dying of Covid 19 to own the libs’ is a tactic of dubious efficacy.

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WorldbyStorm - April 10, 2020

I heard today that the O’D had been filming herself giving out to Garda at roadblocks complaining they were unfairly interrupting people who had a perfect right to be on roads. Is that true?

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Ned Corcaigh - April 10, 2020

Yep. A winning combination of the traditional ‘I pay your wages Gord’ with a kind of Gilroyesque ‘I am a free born citizen under some law or other’ approach.
Consider yourself triggered libtard.

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WorldbyStorm - April 10, 2020

Isn’t it funny though. It’s not even irritating because it’s so meh. It reminds me a little of the elderly woman who used to stand on O”Connell Street in Dublin with the crucifix and black outfit. The mystery was why she’d bother.

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Ned Corcaigh - April 10, 2020

I remember being in Dublin during the early nineties, 1992 I think when there was a large pro-life march which began at the Garden of Remembrance. She placed herself at the front and you could see the organisers shooing her away, presumably because she didn’t give the impression they wished to convey.
Anyway they got rid of her and she wandered off. But as the march reached O’Connell Street, she shot out from a side street and managed to lead the way.
I remember there being a small pro-choice protest about half way down the street chanting, “Pro-life that’s a lie, you don’t care of women die.” Myself and a friend were standing behind them as the march arrived opposite them and were suddenly drenched by an enormous cloud of spit which the pro-lifers had propelled in the direction of the protesters.
We’d been in England for a few years and were totally surprised at the level of hatred the pro-lifers directed towards what was a pretty outnumbered protest. There was something almost orgiastic about it. I think up to that we’d kind of thought of Youth Defence etc. as kind of harmless Holy Joes.
Anyway you awakened that particular memory Wbs,. Sorry for rambling.

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WorldbyStorm - April 10, 2020

Not rambling at all, it’s interesting. Odd you should say that about the hatred. Outside the IFPA a year or so ago I happened to walk past a group of people on the far side of the road facing it. There was a woman with them who sort of circulated around their periphery, clearly part of it but staring at passers-by in a really hostile way. I didn’t cop on to who they were until I passed them, a prayer protest against abortion. But what struck me was that that person seemed almost to be looking for conflict, very strange mentality.

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3. Ned Corcaigh - April 10, 2020

Also as regards the figure massaging, the Spectator (know your enemy and all that) has been energetically pushing the ‘well, they’re not really Covid 19 deaths if the people are old and probably going to die of something else anyway’ line. Though even that will hardly suffice to take the bad look off things.

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WorldbyStorm - April 10, 2020

Just on that, apparently the UK still isn’t including deaths in care homes in the NHS stats.

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