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Something for the weekend …. May 29, 2020

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In 2002 The UCD branch of the Socialist Workers’ Party decided to leave the main party and re-name themselves Socialist Alternative. They released a lengthy Statement as to their reasons why…..
Available in pdf here

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1. oliverbohs - May 29, 2020

Daniel Finn one of the signatories on that, who wrote One Man’s Terrorist, a good read about the IRA’s politics if hardly definitive. Was very tangentially involved with them in mid ’90s so this stuff rings a bell, remember at the time feeling that any questions to do with politics anywhere cd be boiled down to same few boilerplate solutions, and u just had to wait long enough for the revolution. Boyd Barrett seems no different now to then but his tactics got smart, bin charges easier to relate to than talking about a revolution. Admire his tenacity so much

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WorldbyStorm - May 29, 2020

It’s a fascinating document. Clearly, as you say, there was a shift in tactics, I imagine there had to be given the revolution hadn’t occurred in the intervening time. And Daniel Finn is not unknown here on this site! 🙂

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2. sonofstan - May 30, 2020

I saw this before – passed on by one of the signatories I think, who I know a bit. Shocking thing is how long ago it is, which means all those young turks are now heading for ‘Back in My Day’ territory

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3. Sam - May 30, 2020

Very interesting document and great to have a copy of it online. re: the five named signatories.

Donal Lyons is a SDLP Councillor in Belfast. His wife Clare Hanna is a SDLP MP.
https://twitter.com/donallyons?lang=en

Dan Finn is deputy editor of the New Left Review and, as mentioned, author of ‘One Man’s Terrorist: A Political History of the IRA’ (2019)

Ci Murray is co-author of two Come Here To Me! Dublin history compilations. Brilliant blog 😀
http://comeheretome.com/

Fin Dwyer is behind the ever-popular Irish History Podcast and author of two books on medieval Ireland and the Black Death.

James Redmond was a co-founder of Rabble magazine (2008-18) and director of the ‘Notes On Rave In Dublin’ documentary.

http://districtmagazine.ie/james-redmond-discusses-his-new-film-notes-on-rave-in-dublin/

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irishelectionliterature - May 30, 2020

Thanks for that info Sam.

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4. roddy - May 30, 2020

Who is the Donal lyons?

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irishelectionliterature - May 30, 2020

Think he is an SDLP Councillor now

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WorldbyStorm - May 30, 2020

Given their later political trajectories I’d have loved to have been at some of their discussions. I’d think they’d have been great craic and very interesting.

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5. roddy - May 30, 2020

Thought so.Married to the insufferable Claire Hanna who gifted him her council seat and both canvassed for Labour and the Blueshirts in the recent election.

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6. Conor Kostick - May 30, 2020

I’m sorry I never met them at the time, I’d have agreed with a lot of this, especially on the overuse of exclamation marks 😉

One of the reasons why the very small SP and SWN leadership are in a more difficult position today than in 2002, when they could isolate disagreement, is in the growth of platforms like FB and blogs or WhatsApp groups (they must hate members linking up in WhatsApp groups) through which members can communicate directly to each other. I’d never seen this document until today. Whereas if the same happened now, copies would be flying everywhere.

And this same development is a big positive for those of us trying to build revolutionary parties that allow every member the opportunity of immediately expressing an opinion on the issues that arise.

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WorldbyStorm - May 30, 2020

There’s got to be a thesis on the impact of social media on further left parties (actually on all political parties, but particularly smaller more tightly knit ones).

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sonofstan - May 30, 2020

The whole Comrade Delta affair could probably have been ‘contained’ in an earlier era – it was the blogs that blew it wide open.

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Colm B - May 30, 2020

SA faded away, a few joined ISN, some joined WSM.

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Colm B - May 30, 2020

SA faded away, a few joined ISN, some joined WSM.

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Colm B - May 30, 2020

Donal Lyons joined the Labour Party when SA broke up, obviously continued his rightward journey to SDLP.

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7. Mat - May 31, 2020

I worked on the beer tents at music festivals with Donal and Claire for a while. Nice couple.

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8. roddy - May 31, 2020

They represent the most privileged area of Belfast and once objected to a soccer club from a working class area getting a base there.

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