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Statements in the media… good, bad and indifferent… August 2, 2020

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Tale for today:

…a bar in Hillegom [Holland], a town in the tulip-growing heartlands, where the owners promised on Facebook early in the pandemic that nobody would be “reprimanded” under their roof for “sitting close together, shaking hands or hugging”.

“We know what we’re doing,” wrote the owners of De Kleine Beurs pub, Boy Hardeman and his wife Wanda. “For many people the bar is traditionally the one place where they don’t have to stick to all life’s rules.”

Last week … De Kleine Beurs was rapidly closed again by the health authorities after 39 cases of Covid-19 were traced directly to its door – 31 infected there and the other eight contaminated indirectly.

The owners of what at this moment is probably the Netherlands’ best-known bar say they are “mystified” by the outbreak.

Then there’s this, worth two quotes:

And the Government’s proactive stance, even if the science models proved wrong, appears to have played well with an anxious public.

Huh? Which models?

Most expected the lockdown to be followed by a period of reopening and a period of economic recovery. Instead we’re getting a messy in-between.

A novel coronavirus that has unleashed an unprecedented (for this century) pandemic. Who would have guessed?

Harry McGee in the IT is remarkably optimistic:

The announcement on Monday evening of a full reopening of schools (albeit on a phased basis) represented the culmination of a hard-nosed policy decision that was taken as far back as April, at a time when the country was in full lockdown. In contrast to other policy decisions in which the politicians genuflected completely to the scientific advice, there was a determination to reopen schools by autumn even if it went against the grain of that advice.

Huge investment. Complex logistics. Complicated guidelines. But the early indications are that it is a plan that just might work.

Really?

Famed epidemiologist Willie Walsh of Aer Lingus’s parent company IAG misses the point about quarantines of air passengers into Ireland in an interview in today’s SBP:

“A healthy person shouldn’t be locked up for 14 days simply because they have been flying. That does not make sense,” Walsh said.

“While we understand the need to be cautious and nobody is challenging the science, we do believe there is a need for a balance between what the science would dictate and what the economy would require.”

Meanwhile, politics goes on. Sort of. Issues over speaking time in the Dáil generated this response from one FF Senator:

The Listowel Senator added: “They’ve nothing to say about abuses in Trotskyite regimes whether it’s Russia or China or Korea but if anything happens in any of the European democracies they’re giving out yards.”

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1. NFB - August 2, 2020

The Dutch bar story is the inevitable outcome of this “But the economy…” thinking. Pretending the virus doesn’t exist, until suddenly people might be dying because of actions you took or failed to take.

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WorldbyStorm - August 2, 2020

+1 And then they back away from the implications.

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2. FergusD - August 2, 2020

Well I think just about all Trots, including me, will be astonished to learn that Russia (since 1924), China or Korea (presumably North) are Trotskyist. Maybe the learned senator is a critic of the Pabloite current in Trotskyism, which thought there might be revolutionary possibilities in Stalinism? Or maybe he knows nothing?

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WorldbyStorm - August 2, 2020

It’s mystifying – it really is a case of someone hearing a word and just adding it in as a term of political abuse without bothering to understand context or history or whatever

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sonofstan - August 2, 2020

See also ‘Frankfurt School’ and ‘Cultural Marxism’

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WorldbyStorm - August 2, 2020

Yeah, those are about the laziest terms of political abuse. The instant I hear them that’s it, I check out of the argument.

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3. tomasoflatharta - August 2, 2020

Name the forelock-tugger quiz : Who said : “The reality is, Nigel Dodds being appointed to Seanad Éireann would have had a greater positive impact for unionists than his retirement plan in the House of Lords!”

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WorldbyStorm - August 2, 2020

Which one was it, not EH?

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tomasoflatharta - August 2, 2020

Who is EH? It is not the right answer!

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WorldbyStorm - August 2, 2020

Eoghan Harris. 🙂

Now I’m wondering. Possibly RDE?

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sonofstan - August 2, 2020

Well I found out by copying and pasting the phrase into google….
John O’Down SF MLA 🙂
He might be right at that.

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sonofstan - August 2, 2020

‘O’Dowd’

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tomasoflatharta - August 2, 2020

John O’Dowd Sinn Féin Stormont MLA, Upper Bann.

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WorldbyStorm - August 2, 2020

It would be an interesting exercise to see if Dodd’s would just dismiss it out of hand or perhaps how he woudl disagree. Can’t disagree with the idea that he’s not doing his cause any good in the HoL.

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tomasoflatharta - August 3, 2020

Plenty Sleeveens still tug the forelock to extreme hate mongers such as Lord Dodds. RDE, EH, John O’Dowd etc head a seemingly endless list of crawlers. The North Belfast 2019 Westminster general defeat of Dodds was good news. Let’s “dismiss out of hand” all talk of letting politicians like Dodds join other Leinster House politicians with their snouts in the Oireachtas trough.

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sonofstan - August 2, 2020

Well Dodds in the HoL not to do his cause any good but as a reward for helping to ‘get Brexit done’.
I think though, it would be unwise to underestimate the seductions of W’minster life for NI MPs – it’s probably much easier than having to deal with powersharing in the Assembly and it’s in London, which, and no disrespect to Belfast, is a lively place to spend the working week on expenses.
Anecdotal in the extreme, but, early in the noughties, I saw, and very much heard, Lord Trimble, as he then wasn’t, in the Waterstones at the end of the Strand, on his phone arranging a dinner date before the opera (or possibly theatre…). It occured to me then that it was probably quite pleasant having this other life, away from the dreary steeples, and one that you’d be loth to give up.

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4. tomasoflatharta - August 2, 2020

Parity of esteem – Catholic Lifers pay a Protestant Lifer :

“Ian Paisley has said a £200 payment that he received from a religious publication to write a platform piece praising pro-life Catholics is a “standard fee”.

The article, which appeared online last month, revealed the DUP MP’s admiration that Catholics who take the stance are not “embarrassed” to stand up for their views on the controversial issue.

The payment was logged on the House of Commons’ Register of Members’ Financial Interests, which provides information about any financial interest a Member has, or any benefit they receive.” https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/fee-of-200-to-write-an-article-praising-pro-life-catholics-is-a-standard-payment-paisley-39413939.html

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