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Exile? August 4, 2020

Posted by WorldbyStorm in Uncategorized.

Noted in comments here by Paul Culloty. Isn’t this remarkable news, that Juan Carlos, former King of Spain is going into exile? This on foot of investigations into corruption, not least:

Probes are under way in Switzerland and Spain where media regularly publish details of the murky management of funds allegedly paid to the former head of state by Saudi Arabia.

Spain’s Supreme Court announced in June an investigation to determine the legal responsibility of the ex-monarch – but only for acts committed after his abdication, due to the immunity he previously held.

Apparently ‘The letter [in which he announced this decision] did not mention where the former king would go, nor when exactly he would leave Spain’.


1. NFB - August 4, 2020

Fascinating. Apparently he’s settling in the Dominican Republic. All very 1920s!

Funny, I was just reading the other day about Karl I of Austria-Hungary, and the family’s attempts to get his remains repatriated to his homeland after his exile (they are currently in Madeira, where he spent the last years of his life). I doubt Juan Carlos will live quite an unhappy, miserable existence! It’s been such a fall for him since that 81 coup.

Felipe seems popular enough, but it does seem like it is nothing but bad news for the Spanish monarchy recently. But is there enough to see the institution in trouble? Probably not.


WorldbyStorm - August 4, 2020

The Dominican Republic. It’s like Edward and Mrs. Simpson.

Isn’t it just re his fall since 1981. I remember vividly the scenes from the Cortes. Only a few of the parliamentarians didn’t duck down – stupidly or brilliantly a few stayed seated. And in fairness to JC he did pretty much cleave to a democratic path throughout – even if that was no doubt partly borne out of realising there was no alternative.

Yeah, think they’ll survive.

Speaking of the coup or rather those who didn’t duck down this guy is fascinating https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_Guti%C3%A9rrez_Mellado


tafkaGW - August 4, 2020

Don’t forget these aristos are all extremely privately wealthy, and won’t suffer greatly when their welfare checks from the state are cut off.

JC can presumably commune with the ghost of king Zog of Albania, who still tops the ‘best named pointless nob’ league IMHO.


Pasionario - August 4, 2020

One of the handful who didn’t duck was Santiago Carrillo — the leader of the Spanish Communist Party and a veteran of the civil war. He sat there smoking a cigarette and said something like: “You don’t intimidate me.”

Carrillo’s relationship with Juan Carlos was crucial to the restoration of democracy.

It’s sad that the king ended up losing the run of himself so comprehensively because he may be the only living royal anywhere who did some real good. It’s not just that constitutional monarchy represented an acceptable compromise to the Right and Left. Juan Carlos double-crossed Franco, hoodwinking the old bastard into the belief that he would maintain his dictatorship. He’s probably the most significant political figure in Spain of the past fifty years.

As for Karl I of Austria, his son Otto became an MEP for the CSU in Germany. The story goes that he diligently showed up to a committee meeting in Brussels one afternoon, but attendance seemed way down.

“Where is everyone?” he demanded.
“Erm, I think it’s the football. They’re watching the Austria-Hungary game.”
“Oh yeah,” said Otto. “Are we winning?”

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WorldbyStorm - August 4, 2020


Yeah Carrillo was good that day too. It is sad re Carlos on a human level.


Joe - August 4, 2020

“He’s probably the most significant political figure in Spain of the past fifty years.”

No he’s not. He’s a so-called ‘king’. I’ve no sympathy for him on a human level. Sorry.

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Pasionario - August 8, 2020

Political significance is not determined by whether you like the person or not.

By working his way into Franco’s confidence and then leading the country’s transition to democracy, Juan Carlos became the primary architect of modern Spain.

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Paul Culloty - August 4, 2020

Apparently, Karl once tried to be crowned solely as King of Hungary (where Horthy was loth to renounce his Regency), but the resultant battle was so inconsequential that it failed to interrupt a Hungarian league game, at least according to Claudio Magris in Danube.


NFB - August 4, 2020

I believe he tried it twice, in the deluded belief that there was mass support for such a course. It seems to be an inevitable consequence of monarchy that you become completely out of touch with the opinions of the country you nominally rule.


2. Joe - August 4, 2020

I heard he’s seeking asylum in Catalunya.

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3. Paul Culloty - August 5, 2020

Excellent analysis of the money trail by Jacobin:


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