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Illogical October 1, 2020

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Odd rhetoric at the rather poorly attended protest against Covid-19 in Dublin city centre a couple of weeks back where about 40 people managed to turn out. For example.

Around 40 people gathered in front of the GPO holding banners which included ‘Only Slaves Wear Masks’ and ‘Government and RTÉ are the Virus’.

They walked to O’Connell Bridge where they laid a wreath and speakers claimed there have been a number of suicides linked to the restrictions and to media reporting of the pandemic.

“Only Slaves wear Masks” – Huh? ‘Masks spread germs’… End the Lockdown, Covid is a hoax.

A few counter-protestors in evidence and…

There was a brief confrontation on O’Connell Street with three counter protesters who chanted ‘Shame, Shame, Shame on You’ and who said they stood with frontline workers at risk because of the pandemic.

One has to wonder at the thought-processes of those who deny the lived experience of frontline workers who have been injured or died due to the virus. I was thinking the other day that this is the equivalent of protests in the middle of London during the Blitz in the Second World War claiming that the war was a hoax, or that bombings weren’t real. It really is a denial of reality on that scale.

A certain personage was in attendance, which explains one of the supposed ‘anti-corruption’ banners.

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1. oliverbohs - October 1, 2020

These guys badly want what’s going down in Italy and such places. John Waters once wrote a column in the IT in the ’00s beseeching why we can’t be more like Italy. Thing is he made his name for himself by being his own brand of bumptious supplicant to the status quo. He’d love not to be an outsider

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2. NFB - October 1, 2020

The same crowd have been consistently outside RTE for the last few weeks as well.

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3. alanmyler - October 1, 2020

I had to venture up to the office in Dublin yesterday just to drop something off that I’d borrowed during the summer. While I was in I went up to my floor to see if anyone was around for a chat. A couple of colleagues were in, but the place was very empty, as most people have been remote working since March. (Interestingly there was a company meeting via zoom earlier in the day where the manager stated that there had been no loss in productivity due to remote working). So we were chatting, mostly about covid, because fuck all has been happening in anyone’s lives since we’d last talked. What I found somewhat shocking was that both of the guys were quite sceptical of the government handling of covid, both veering towards viewing it a a complete over-reaction to the situation, that the various other costs of the lockdown and subsequent easing of restrictions far outweighed the costs of the coronavirus pandemic itself given what we now know about it. Of course there was some difference of opinion over that last bit, i.e. what we know about the virus, and some variation in terms of sources for that information. But I really hadn’t met anyone with those sorts of views since this all started. Well actually I’ve met very few people in real life since this all started one way or the other, but you know what I mean. I’ve read those sorts of opinions online from people, but generally not people I actually knew in real life or via social media. Ok, we’re talking about relatively younger (mid to late 30s) people, professional, university educated, engineers, and I know one of the guys is somewhat influenced by the of Joe-Rogan-osphere on other subjects, so perhaps I shouldn’t have been so surprised really. Neither of these guys are in any way dim, they’re both smart analytical types,not the sorts who would ever vote for the sort of loopers hanging out at the GPO in your post above. Separately, the husband of a friend of herself, also an engineer in fact (is that a significant factor I wonder?) has gone full QAnon in the past while. I’ve taken all of this as meaning that my already quite small bubble has reduced to far too limited a subset of the real world during the past six months, and that I really need to widen my horizons in order to recalibrate to some semblance of normality. I don’t mean that I need to adopt those sorts of opinions myself, just that I need to accept without being shocked that otherwise quite normal people can hold different opinions to me, which is something I seem to have gradually forgotten over the past while. One of the costs of the pandemic in itself perhaps.

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WorldbyStorm - October 1, 2020

I’ve heard a bit of soft denialist stuff re if the health service wasn’t underfunded we’d have ICU capacity to deal with surges, but nothing like that so far.

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4. CL - October 1, 2020

“What I see other countries doing – Belgium is the most recent example – is that they are no longer using case numbers to make their decisions on restrictions and policy.
“They are looking at hospitalisations, ICU capacity and deaths. It is a job for us as politicians to say to the public health people that maybe we should be focusing on that.”-Varadkar
https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/1001/1168634-nphet-update-covid/

‘Belgium, a country of about 11.5 million people, recorded an average of 1,374 new infections per day over the past week. In early July, there were about 80 a day. Its COVID-19 death total of 9,955 is one the world’s highest per capita.’
https://www.voanews.com/covid-19-pandemic/belgium-eases-covid-19-restrictions-despite-surging-cases

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WorldbyStorm - October 1, 2020

Uh-oh.

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