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A question… December 1, 2020

Posted by WorldbyStorm in Uncategorized.
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Both the Mail and the SBP asked voters whether they would take the vaccine.

RedC/SBPs figures were: 86% FG, 89% FF, IND 72%, GP 78% and SF 68%.

I’m presuming we’re a fairly pro-vaccine friendly crew here, so, what are people’s thoughts on that particular issue? Any trepidation, or jumping in there as soon as one is available? I can understand people might have some of the former, but I think I’m in the latter cohort.

Beyond that, what are the mechanisms to convince those who are hesitant that this is necessary?

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1. sonofstan - December 1, 2020

Yes, will jump at it.
Rather disturbed during the week to hear of strong anti-vax sentiments from friends of friends: one with a biology degree! Odd that young men are more willing that young women, though the sample size is probably pretty unreliable at that level.

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2. NFB - December 1, 2020

No problem taking it with the appropriate research into the specific vaccine.

Convincing those reluctant…don’t know. It’s an important enough issue that some measure of punitive measure for active refusal might have to be considered.

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3. NFB - December 1, 2020

On the back of that SF number a strong statement from MLD and MON on pro-vaccine sentiment would be good. None of this Ni Riadh “I’m not anti-vax but…” shite.

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4. sonofstan - December 1, 2020

Lots of anti-vax graffiti around here, along with even more batshit QAnon influenced stuff. One I do like though, even if it comes from that particular sewer: ‘Prince Philip is 95% harvested organs’

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5. Joe - December 1, 2020

Will jump at it. But, being a polite sort, I won’t jump the queue and will be happy to stand back in the early days and let those who really need or want it, go first. A polite sleeveen is still a sleeveen.

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6. alanmyler - December 1, 2020

I’m pro-vaccine as a rule but I’m also not an early-adopter generally. As with any new technology, and I guess I’m speaking here form an engineering perspective that’s formed by my work experience over the decades, the more testing that is done on something the more likely it is to work as intended and without unintended side effects which might only show up in very rare situations. Just to say that I have been avoiding any detail about COVID since very early on in the pandemic, just because I found the whole experience quite over-whelming at the start and I found the best way to cope was simply to read headlines without getting into any detail, and to adopt an optimistic pro-science mindset that humanity would rise to thd social and scientific challenges and hopefully triumph eventually. All by way of saying that I’m quite uninformed about the vaccines, other than seeing the headlines where the testing to date has been performed on 10s of 1000s of people per vaccine and that while there were some adverse negative reactions, some of which were very serious, that those results were more or less to be expected. So, the vaccines appear to be safe most of the time and for most people, where most is a number exponentially approaching but never quite reaching 100%, and the vaccines work in 90%+ of cases. That’s good enough for me to be honest. I’d prefer if more testing was done of course, but some of that testing will just have to happen in the immediate rollout of the vaccines(s) to those considered most at risk of developing COVID, so healthcare workers and the elderly amongst others, and by the time it becomes available to the rest of us I think we’ll know whether or not it’s as safe and as effective as the claims to date would suggest. I suppose I’d be very slightly sceptical in a “Big Pharma” kind of way about those claims made so far, in that without having delved into the details myself (see above) I’d be wary of press releases as a rule as their function is predominantly to boost shareholder value rather than to disclose scientific findings of a warts and all nature. But hopefully the latter is out there for others to sift through and determine the reality of the scientific analysis. Of course we can expect the anti-vaxx bullshit to go into overdrive in the months ahead. I’d just hope that the mainstream media don’t do their usual “balance” thing of giving those loopers a platform for their conspiracy theories.

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WorldbyStorm - December 1, 2020

Yeah, it’s going to be a process not an event. ANd that is as it should be really. One interesting thought I heard was the idea that give it to younger potentially superspreader cohorst. Kind of makes sense but like you, I’m a go with the scientific advice person. It’s not infallible but it’s a heap of a lot more robust from the anti-vax crew.

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7. CL - December 1, 2020

“The far-from-universal willingness to accept a COVID-19 vaccine is a cause for concern. Countries where acceptance exceeded 80% tended to be Asian nations with strong trust in central governments (China, South Korea and Singapore). A relatively high tendency toward acceptance in middle-income countries, such as Brazil, India and South Africa, was also observed. Unless and until the origins of such wide variation in willingness to accept a COVID-19 vaccine is better understood and addressed, differences in vaccine coverage between countries could potentially delay global control of the pandemic and the ensuing societal and economic recovery…..

In most of the 19 countries surveyed in our study, current levels of willingness to accept a COVID-19 vaccine are insufficient to meet the requirements for community immunity ”
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-1124-9

“President-elect Joe Biden’s Covid advisory board member Dr. Celine Gounder told CNBC that she is “relieved” upon hearing news that President Donald Trump’s special advisor on the coronavirus pandemic, Dr. Scott Atlas, formally resigned from his post….

Gounder said that the Biden administration will start by focusing on the location of vaccine sites in order to ensure that Black and minority communities will have an equal opportunity to get an approved Covid vaccine.”
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/01/biden-covid-advisor-relieved-about-dr-scott-atlas-resignation-.html

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8. crocodileshoes - December 1, 2020

Sister-in-law worked on vaccination campaigns in Australia and says young mothers are a key demographic. They tend to make the decisions on their children’s’ healthcare, too, and in some socioeconomic groups that’s the most agency they have in life. They are also, studies show, more than 3 times as likely as men to be active on ani-Vax social media sites. The s-in-law thinks it’s ominous that there’s been such a low uptake for the free, painless children’s flu vaccine this winter and says that parents of young children need to be targeted by specific online campaigns BEFORE the COVID vaccine rollout.

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9. irishelectionliterature - December 2, 2020

I’ll be taking it. Don’t want to get Covid. I suppose too that by taking it I will be in part contributing to society returning to some form of normality.

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