for lefties too stubborn to quit
A map made from many of the box tallies from February’s election, so it maps each polling district. It’s really fascinating to see where candidates, parties polled well, hours of fun. Available here
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Bounced that up to the most recent article IEL, this is fantastic.
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Ah jaysus. There goes Christmas…
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It’s brilliant isn’t it. Naturally looked at my own area (Dublin SW) and knowing the lie of the land it was really brilliant. Seems that I have a lot of neighbours that voted FG!!
You also get to see candidates getting votes in their locality but not much outside of it.
Dublin Bay South was another one where you can see Chris Andrews topping the poll all around Irishtown and Ringsend and then getting little or nothing in the leafier areas.
On the far left, RBB seems to have been the only one to have topped the poll in a bunch of areas.
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The areas RBB topped the poll in correspond exactly with the main working class areas of Dun Laoghaire. Contrary to the received wisdom, the fact that these areas have voted left since the 1960s is a clear indication that class politics has been around for a long time, at least in urban areas.
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The majority of RBB’s areas also poll very strongly SF.
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Yes voters tend to vote consistently between left parties regardless of the hostility or differences. When I was elected as a cllr in Dun Laoghaire for the WP in 1991, it was on the transfers of Kevin Fitzpatrick, the SF candidate, despite the hostility between the parties.
As it happened, I got on fine with Kevin, but the main reason for the transfers, were that the parties were both very active in the working class areas.
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You can also see a broader appeal if you look at the two districts furthest south, in Shankill. They are quite wealthy, Rathmichael in particular, and were won handily by FG at a party level, but RBB was the individual poll topper in both of them.
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Not denying that RBB has broader appeal but I think the higher vote in those districts are a function of the diversity of those areas – Rathmichael covers some traditionally working class areas of Shankill village and area between Shankill and Bray, although mainly private housing, would have large numbers of residents who originally came from working class areas of DL. The WP always did well there in the 80s.
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Yes, a lot of it is probably the Gilmore vote. Labour didn’t do well, and they have two strong councillors there.
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Brilliant Resource
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I travel over the border quite a bit as part of my job and I have to say,I am astounded at the high SF vote in towns and villages I often pass through and would previously thought of as FF/FG strongholds!
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Eg SF 55% in St Margarets Co Dublin!
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Eg SF 55% in St Margarets Co Dublin!
The mention of St. Margaret’s reminds me that North County Dublin a century ago saw bitter lockouts and active Irish Volunteer companies, so always comparatively large pockets of working-class people there crying out for leadership.
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It’s funny seeing that FG won around Ballinasloe, SF won around Ballaghadereen and FF won around Strokestown. No surprises guessing where the candidates for those parties came from. Meanwhile everywhere else in Roscommon-Galway was dominated by Fitzmaurice or Naughten.
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A little bit different in Clare, the GP and independent (ex-Labour) candidate had that localised support to some degree, the S.F. one actually did best in Shannon not her home area.
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This stupendous stuff for political nerds. It’s as good as or even better than the data journalism you find on The NY Times.
The extent of the SF vote in inner-city Dublin is truly remarkable — well over 50% in some places.
As is the fact that FG is first in Drumcondra with FF only in third or fourth.
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As is the fact that FG is first in Drumcondra with FF only in third or fourth.
A lot of Mercs, Beemers and other fancy motor vehicles appearing in that part of Drumcondra in the past decade or so, as older inhabitants die off and families cash in (most of the area built on garden city principles in 1920s/30s, so vulnerable to genrrification and big extensions by celebrity architects).
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Striking numbers and graphics. You read that, say, SF have done well in Dublin Midwest but the graphs for Clondalkin/Dunawley really hammer it home – twice as many first preferences as all the other candidates combined and O’Broin alone more than half the vote. PR (proportional representation, not public relations) is going to be more and more about data and who uses them best.
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Also, if you move across the green areas in Clondalkin, you can see SF’s vote management splitting the vote between Ó Broin and Ward.
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Checked out our particular bit of Cherry Orchard and SF (Ó Snodaigh) was over 70%. Despite the fact that he’s practically invisible here – that vote is all down to an incredibly energetic SF councillor, Daithi Doolan, who is very active and very visible locally. Builds the SF brand name though.
Even though Bríd Smith would be seen as being strongly based in Ballyfermot/Cherry Orchard, she was still only on 12% or so. Just goes to illustrate the extent to which she was dependent on SF transfers, which doesn’t bode well for her if/when they decide to run a second candidate.
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Also very interesting how strong Joan Collins is in places in the constituency. She came in 1,700 votes fewer than Brid Smith but looking at this it’s easier to see how she retained her seat.
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But yeah, the scale of SF’s vote is something else.
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If as suspected, Fintan Warfield runs in the next general election, he will win the second SF seat in Dublin South Central and even if he doesn’t run, that vote is up for SF’s taking anyway. Bríd Smith’s vote will be affected, but not necessarily causing her political demise. Her strong media presence and PBP’s foot soldiers’ efforts will do her very well. Unfortunately, this is likely to result in squeezing out Joan Collins, despite her outstanding activities.
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I think you’re right Alibaba. Though small compared to SF’s, PBP at least have something of a party organisation, but Collins has none.
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SF 67.1% in Cabra West B. Anywhere top that ?
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What about Dessie Ellis 78.3 % Finglas South C
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Which mirrors the WPs absolute dominance in Finglas South in the 80s. Which comes back to the point I made earlier – parties come and go but people show a remarkable consistency in voting for the left party that is most active in the community and broadly speaking articulates some sort of class politics. If and when a party abandons either or both it’s replaced by another. I worked with Dessie in the anti-bin tax campaihn so I know that he is a hardworking and decent public rep but his success has a context.
If SF went into coalition with one of the right wing parties things could change rapidly, and their place could be filled by others to the left. Though these days, there is always the danger that a far right force might emerge peddling a distorted racist anti-elite politics to fill any gap that emerges.
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Great point. There is a reluctance in the political centre to admit that Dublin, particularly the north and west, is a pretty left -wing city.
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An IT journalist was accompanying a FG candidate around my area a few years ago. I had never met her before and found her manner so irksome that my normal rule of avoiding heated political arguments was blown away – though nothing was said I wouldn’t stand over.
When she departed, exhibiting distaste for my wanton disregard of FG’s greatness, the journalist lingered and told me that my estate was natural FG territory – as if somehow my politics was a meaningless aberration.
I see FG came in a poor third in my electoral area last year with less than half of SF’s vote and a third of the Greens.
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“as if somehow my politics was a meaningless aberration”
That’s the default of the liberal media everywhere isn’t it? Exasperation at the inability of the people to know what’s good for them.
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…like all of those people who voted for Labour in 2017, not really understanding that they couldn’t be elected
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To get a bit more rural, I had a look at Galway West. The geographic extent of O Cuív’s vote is astonishing. Practically every district in the western half of county Galway had him in first place and well in front. I know it’s not densely populated, but even so, is there any other TD who has such dominance at the purely spatial level?
Meanwhile, Noel Grealish got over half the votes in Oughterard, so his grandstanding on Direct Provision paid off.
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The next, and possibly last, leader of FF?
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Had a quick look at Cork SW and Michael Collins would seem to rival O Cuív in terms of local dominance.
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You’re right, that beats O Cuív! I count about 35 districts in Galway for O Cuív but over 60 in Cork for Collins.
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I ran into O’Cuiv once.He was standing at the back of the church in Cong one Sunday morning!
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Neat idea. Think my parents’ area in Limerick (Limerick City – Ballycummin) might have been one of the most FF in the country. Ashtown A, where I am, FG just ahead of SF, but was an outlier in the larger constituency.
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Proud to live in that part of Cabra which remains resistant to Provisional SF hegemony :).
But really, that map is so depressing. A map of the failure of the socialist left.
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Absolutely fascinating!
As Sonof put it, there goes Christmas…
Funny how you see a candidate getting 15-20 in most areas and then you see them bouncing up to 40/50 even 60… their local area …
Socialist left, Joe, I wouldn’t be so glum… five in the Dáil with the loss of some great fighters, Coppinger, Healy… but still standing… it’s the next election I’d be afeard of with the SF steamroller… unless some kind of pact is agreed… ABFGFG?Anybody but Fine Gael Fianna Fáil…
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I wouldn’t be so glum either: the socialist left has a presence in Ireland that would be envied by many here.
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I’m very sorry re Coppinger and Healy, and good on you Fergal for remembering him in particular. An absolutely sound and committed socialist and fwiw in my experience a sound person.
Agree, SF could roll over a lot of good people without a pact of some kind.That’s a pretty great idea ABFGFF!
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There’s a split already. Join me in ABFGFFSF!
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The chap who put the site together has been inundated with further tally data, with some from 2016 also. So will be updated in the new year.
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[…] General Election Tally Map (available here) and discussed here in December has been updated with added tallies from some constituencies and most importantly a per candidate […]
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