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What you want to say – 16th June 2021 June 16, 2021

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As always, following on Dr. X’s suggestion, it’s all yours, “announcements, general discussion, whatever you choose”, feel free.

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1. polly - June 16, 2021

I know, I know, it is the bourgeoisie wearing straw boaters, but I like it – Bloomsday !

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WorldbyStorm - June 16, 2021

Agreed. It can be a bit performative but hey, why not.

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crocodileshoes - June 16, 2021

Anthony Cronin’s account of the first Bloomsday was repeated on last Sunday’s ‘Sunday Miscellany’. It’s well worth hearing and a reminder that, just as most of what we value in popular music was created by people out of their head on drugs, most of our greatest writers were pretty constantly drunk.

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2. terrymdunne - June 16, 2021

This talk here might be of interest later today – (afterwards recorded & on youtube) –
https://www.wcml.org.uk/whats-on/events/online-talk-what-is-big-flame-exploring-a-revolutionary-socialist-feminist-organisation-197084/

– about Big Flame, 70s New Left org.

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3. Michael Carley - June 16, 2021

For fans of ekranoplans (Irish Sea Monster now!), an American company is proposing to build electric ones:

https://www.regentcraft.com/

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WorldbyStorm - June 16, 2021

What’s your read on that Michael. Are they something that have a real utility in those contexts?

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Michael Carley - June 16, 2021

It’s obviously doable, given USSR/Russia has been doing it for decades. The interesting question will be whether the advantages of going electric will be enough to make it cheap and reliable. It’s more feasible than electric aircraft for passenger transport, certainly.

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WorldbyStorm - June 16, 2021

That’s quite positive!

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4. gregtimo - June 16, 2021

Week old analysis of the Peru-vian upset to Political Earthquake . Veteran Latin America commentator Wilpert interviews a young Peruvian left journalist Francesca Emanuele who gives an overview of the background to the against the odds victory of outsider Castillo . Although Castillo is a strange mix of social conservative (fence sitter on abortion and LGBTI rights) and local variant Leninist (in his supporting party Peru Libre) a pre-election pact was made with Mendoza’s more progressive Left coalition (Juntos Por El Peru). Is Francesca too optimistic? Can the alliance hold and expand to bring in the needed centrist support, street mobilization and international support to head off would be coupsters, immobilizers etc ? Very up in air https://theanalysis.news/interviews/the-left-wins-perus-presidential-election/
Francesca Emanuele’s site, a Peruvian media co-op . In Spanish
https://wayka.pe/nosotrxs/
Jacobin have also done pieces both on their English and Spanish (as in Jacobin Latin America) sites

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gregtimo - June 16, 2021

For more up to minute analysis Telesur in Spanish is probably the best place as the links from their English site dont work
https://www.telesurtv.net/tags/peru

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5. Bagatelle's Unhoisted Tinders - June 16, 2021

For your consideration from Chimamanda Adichie.

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pettyburgess - June 17, 2021

It always seems to be trans rights that drives rich and famous writers round the bend. Really, before posting your rant about how the kids today are all woke vampires because they think my nuanced sophisticated way of denying that trans women are women is just bigotry it might be worth asking yourself “do I really want to be gleefully tweeted by Piers Morgan or is it just possible that I should shut up for a moment instead?”.

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6. Alibaba - June 17, 2021

The Irish language deal was cut to avoid the power-sharing Stormont crisis. Hard to escape the notion that if and when it gets introduced the Executive will not drill down to the details. Post 2022 elections may change this. 

Still, it reminds me of the fact that although abortion was decriminalised in Northern Ireland by the British government since October 2019, service provision remains dismal. The restrictive abortion legislation which magnifies the risks to people’s privacy and health in Covid times has gone largely unchallenged.

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banjoagbeanjoe - June 17, 2021

Also. I can’t wait to start reading all the official documents in Ulster Scots.
The only Ulster Scots I’ve seen down here is Waterways Ireland – Uiscebhealaí Éireann – Watterweys Airlann.

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7. Liberius - June 17, 2021

German biotech CureVac NV (5CV.DE) said on Wednesday its COVID-19 vaccine was only 47% effective in a late-stage trial, missing the study’s main goal and throwing in doubt the potential delivery of hundreds of millions of doses to the European Union.

The disappointing efficacy of the shot known as CVnCoV emerged from an interim analysis based on 134 COVID-19 cases in the study with about 40,000 volunteers in Europe and Latin America.

Well that explains why EMA approval isn’t expected soon. Looks like they might have to go back to the drawing board. Shows incidentally why thoses variants are such a problem.

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/curevacs-covid-19-vaccine-misses-efficacy-goal-mass-trial-2021-06-16/

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8. banjoagbeanjoe - June 17, 2021

Newton Emerson in today’s IT points to the provisions in the UK/Australia trade deal re work opportunities. UK citizens will be able to go and work in Australia for three years, as opposed to two now I think, with certain provisos.
Those of us (I really wish I wasn’t but I am) fixated on the numbers game that is NI … thinking might this be an escape valve for unionists unhappy in the inevitable UI in Leo’s lifetime. But then heading to Oz and sometimes staying there is big with young nationalists too (in fact moreso probably), north and south. If enough young northern nationalists continue to head there, that affects the numbers game too.
Canada and NZ coming down the line too … orange lodges in all three ex-dominions would welcome an influx of new young blood I’m sure.

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Liberius - June 17, 2021

I can’t be arsed to find the equivalent numbers for the north but at least in terms of the south the exodus to Australia is greatly exaggerated. Since 2014 the net migration figure is +1400, in other words more people have come back than left to Australia. I doubt it’s much different for the north, and since the numbers for here tend to be around 6k in both directions each year it’s really margin of error stuff.

You’ll find the data on table 3 of the CSO’s population and migration report.

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Liberius - June 17, 2021
WorldbyStorm - June 17, 2021

Yeah, I know lot’s who as banjoagbeanjoe notes have visited but relatively few who have stayed and 1,400 sounds about right.

TBH on a completely different angle an extra year isn’t exactly amazing or a deal maker or deal breaker on the overall agreement between Australia and GB I’d have thought. All these agreements seem very threadbare don’t they?.

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banjoagbeanjoe - June 17, 2021

Ah janey Liberius. Get off our board with your facts.

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Liberius - June 17, 2021

Don’t shoot the messenger! 🙂

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9. sonofstan - June 17, 2021
WorldbyStorm - June 17, 2021

It’s not a happy ship, that’s for sure. Just about to listen to Susan McKay on the IT Politics podcast covering some of this ground. I have to her latest book. She’s a great, thoughtful and for want of a better word, sympathetic if critical, observer of unionism – someone who I wish was listened to a lot more than the likes of Eoghan Harris etc who always showboat and sort of use unionists and loyalists as cudgels to attacks republicanism rather than recognising them as communities with autonomy of their own.

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Colm Breathnach - June 17, 2021

McKay’s new book is as good as I expected. A few key things about the protestant community came out:

Real uncertainty, with a surprising amount of people ready to accept that the future might bring a UI, even if they didn’t want that to happen.

The utterly contradictory nature of positions/views expressed, sometimes by the same person, mixing deeply reactionary, liberal and even leftish opinions.

A real recognition of the total bankruptcy of the loyalist paramilitaries. It’s clear that in everyday terms these drug dealing thugs are the primary oppressors of working class protestants.

The intense hurt caused by the deaths of loved ones during the Troubles, a legacy which is still very strong.

The very shaky foundations on which DUP hegemony is built. It’s quite clear many vote for them just on the basis of them being the strongest unionist party but surprising number don’t like their social conservatism

The fluidity of the situation in the Protestant community means things could develop in all sorts of ways, so some grounds for optimism.

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WorldbyStorm - June 17, 2021

I’m just finished another book so I’m keen to get to her one next. That’s fascinating. Some really interesting things happening inside unionism and loyalism.

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terrymdunne - June 20, 2021

Steve Bruce wrote about the disjunction between an evangelical political leadership and a growing secularization among the wider constituency back in the 1980s/early ’90s – arguing that the evangelicals had a symbolic cachet – it was a sort of expression of identity to have these evangelical trappings given by the likes of Paisley – even for people not really mad into the whole religious thing (he relates this to Ulster unionists having what he reckons was an ethnic identity having not developed a national identity – dunno about that).

There is also a tendency that raises the slogan ‘For God and His Glory Alone’ as a counter to ‘For God and Ulster’ and seemingly regards the sacralisation of politics as a form of idolatry.

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sonofstan - June 17, 2021
Tomboktu - June 17, 2021

She does have a sense of humour. That tweet and her choice of song for her final press conference “That’s life/ (That’s life)/ That’s what all the people say/ You’re riding high in April, shot down in May”

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10. tomasoflatharta - June 17, 2021

Which DUP faction are you backing with the bookies – the Trotskyist Wreckers or the Trotskyist Wreckers?

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11. sonofstan - June 17, 2021

I don’t know if Pootsie believes the world is round, but it’s certainly gone pear shaped for him.

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12. sonofstan - June 17, 2021

And there he goes….

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13. Tomboktu - June 17, 2021

What was it somebody said about today might be a good day to release bad news?

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14. Jim Monaghan - June 19, 2021

Blast from the past history debate. https://villagemagazine.ie/misrepresenting-haugheys-relationship-with-the-provos-the-irish-times-promoted-the-official-iras-version-of-the-arms-crisis/?fbclid=IwAR3MGd8WiQsWY0a4oJrRrvQ8zKW2zYNV_0WtJzBiHkhLeZo4Xt3eeyTLc3I “The IRA split in December 1969 into what became known as the Provisional and Official IRA. Sinn Féin divided along the same lines the following month.

Between 1970 and 1983 the Official IRA killed at least 54 people, probably more. They also attempted to have journalist Ed Moloney murdered by their contacts in the UDA. A plot was also hatched to kill Vincent Browne in what was to appear as an accidental death.

The chief of staff of the Official IRA (OIRA) was Cathal Goulding. One of their victims was a 17-year-old boy called Ranger Best, who was tortured and murdered in 1972 in Derry.”

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15. Tomboktu - June 19, 2021

The pandemic must be easing.

Two Mormon missionaries passed me on Abbey Street in Dublin this morning.

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16. Starkadder - June 19, 2021
gregtimo - June 21, 2021

Further proof of what a debacle Starmer’s leadership is, if such were needed . Surely even Labour’s right can see he is a liability at this stage . How long will their gratitude for his inside job last ? Hard to predict, but I suspect a continued purge , deliberate driving off more of the Corbyn intake before someone more palatable is found .. Andy Burham or Angela Raynor ?

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17. Paul Culloty - June 19, 2021

John Bercow has joined Labour – interesting, as he himself admits he started out in the Monday Club wing of the Tories, before moving progressively towards the centre:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jun/19/john-bercow-defects-to-labour-with-withering-attack-on-johnson

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gregtimo - June 21, 2021

Safe home for dissident Tories, lovely .. Another Starmer coup

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WorldbyStorm - June 21, 2021

Rayner is ok

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gregtimo - June 21, 2021

Rayner is problematic imo .
https://skwawkbox.org/2020/11/29/rayner-says-she-will-suspend-thousands-and-thousands-to-because-injury-to-one-is-injury-to-all-shell-have-to-start-with-herself/
Did her bit with Labour Friends of Israel and in the ‘AntiSemitism’ purge . Not as bad as Starmer but another triangulator of the self declared ‘soft left’ variety . Anyhow latest gossip from the Corbynist Skwawkbox which is maybe speculation but would hardly surprise
https://skwawkbox.org/2021/06/18/exclusive-labour-right-to-use-big-gun-peer-to-tell-starmer-to-go-after-batley-spencer-loss/

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18. roddy - June 19, 2021

Just watched “Na Baleid” on TG4 which dealt with popular songs from Carlow,Wexford and Tipperary.” Follow me up to Carlow”,”Boolavoge” and both versions of “Slievenamon” were featured.Their origins were discussed and all were performed by professional musicians and singers but also by groups of up to 20 ordinary punters in a pub setting.It caused me to ask,is their another country anywhere whose “songs of struggle” could outdo Ireland in terms of sheer quantity and indeed in many cases sheer quality?

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WorldbyStorm - June 19, 2021

Some of those are great roddy , agreed. My mother born and reared in Birmingham can do a passable Boolavoge. And here’s a question, I’m trying to think of a rock new wave or later dance outfit that tackled the conflict in their work in a nuanced way (and I’m not talking about U2’s handwringing stuff). Was there even one?

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sonofstan - June 20, 2021

Bill Rolston has a good take on this:

Click to access rolston2001a.pdf


There was also a recent piece in Popular Music by Sean Campbell on Easterhouse and That Petrol Emotion on what happened to bands who did try to say something useful.
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/popular-music/article/agitate-educate-organise-partisanship-popular-music-and-the-northern-ireland-conflict/C4DC1528C38F4A76D1E4D8CAC5AE0CA2

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sonofstan - June 20, 2021

It occurred to me when reading that Vox anthology 80-83 that you could read the whole thing, and if you knew nothing about Irish history, you would have no idea of what was going on in the north from that. Hundreds of interviews with punk and post-punk bands, from the ones that never played a gig all the way to U2 and complete Omerta – and it extended to nearly all politics beyond a ‘we just want to express ourselves’ with a few exceptions (the Low/ RWW and, maybe surprisingly, Christy Dignam). You wouldn’t be able to read a similar collection from any British city and not have something about RAR/ANL, and, a bit later, the Miners’ Strike.

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banjoagbeanjoe - June 20, 2021

But wasn’t it claimed about the Belfast punk scene that it was a space where people from both sides could and did mix? So, in a place where the conflict was everything and everywhere, the punk statement was not to talk about it. The punk ‘f..k you to society’ was to ignore the conflict and sing and play punk songs about everything and anything else.
Great theory Joe but what about SLF?

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19. Tomboktu - June 19, 2021

TWIMBLT – the niche post: “The Lambeg Boogie”.

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banjoagbeanjoe - June 20, 2021

Excellent. Love it!

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20. roddy - June 19, 2021

Those who wanted to “make it” were steered away from commenting by those who held the power in the music industry,

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WorldbyStorm - June 20, 2021

I fear that is true

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21. Paul Culloty - June 20, 2021

Regional elections today in France, which are of minimal importance in their own right, but the only real indication of the state of the parties before next spring’s presidential election. Macron’s En Marche, unsurprisingly, has made little impression, just about registering the 10% in polls that, if realised, would guarantee progression to the second round, alongside Le Pen’s National Rally, Les Verts, Les Républicains (Gaullists), and either/or of the Socialists and France Insoumise (Mélenchon). Le Pen’s party could take control of the Provence region, so Macron will be expected to combine with the Republicans, as will the traditional pan-left front in most regions. Finally, watch out for the Corsican nationalists, whose ruling coalition has fractured due to infighting, and the Breton regionalist UDB, who join forces with the Greens in that region.

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Élections_régionales_françaises_de_2021

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Colm Breathnach - June 20, 2021

Just as an aside the WP had long standing relationship with the UDB who were seen as the Officials of the Breton nationalist movement, though the relationship faded in the 1980s as the WP abandoned it’s links with left nationalist movements.

I think I’m right in saying the UDB were never a revolutionary organisation. It combines soft-left politics with cultural nationalism. Given the nature of the French electoral system, the UDB usually combines in electoral listd with one or other of the “mainstream” left parties: PS, PCF, Greens.

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Paul Culloty - June 20, 2021
Jim Monaghan - June 23, 2021

Yes, the Officials had a fondness for minority nationalism across Europe. Dropped in favour of Moscow aligned parties and growing hostility to nationalisms of all sorts. In a parallel, the Provisionals had good relations with a similar array of minority nationalisms and have done a similar distancing. The exception is, of course, the Catalans, who everyone appears to like.
The UDB appear to be in a permanent alliance with the French Greens, the EELV. Claire Desmares-Poirrier EÉLV-UDB-GÉ-ND-BÉ-G·s-LRDG-ESNT 126 323 14,84%

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gregtimo - June 21, 2021

Guardian summary is on the good side of what I’d expect in English, but it contains errors such as listing Bretagne(Brittany) as a Far Right stronghold . It hasnt been in recent decades afaik, typical of the sloppy reporting there, but lucky to get much there these days
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/20/slap-in-the-face-for-macron-as-french-voters-shun-local-elections
With the turnout down to 32% ‘Slap in the Face for the entire Political Class outside Les Republicans (LR)’ might be just as accurate a headline as the old centre-right LR are the nearest to clear winners . Much is made of the Far Right RN (National Rally former Front National) bad performance which is the silver lining, but even there if they did win the reported 19% (about 10 below the polls) then that is in itself fairly good for them in historical terms as for a long time they lacked much of a local base and had become a protest vehicle to a large extent. The Hard Left FI (Insoumise) are losers again sadly, they have not made it into any 2nd round afaik, with the 10% in the Paris region about the best they managed when running on own or with the PCF (and there the mess of varying coalitions which has become typical is another confusing element. The PCF still coalesce with the PS a lot and even against FI in some) . In the once Left stronghold of the de-industrialised North ‘Hauts’ region where they at least had sense to run a combined Left of Centre candidature encompassing PS and FI , it only scored around 17.5% ,securing the 2nd round but must be depressing ..
. All round a bad omen for Melenchon who has never recovered from his infamous ‘I am France’ pulling defeat from the jaws of victory declaration a couple of years back (Is there no-one else?). By contrast The PS (‘Socialist’s’ Party) who had seemed on their way out after 2017 retained several 2nd round spots where they lead lists . The Greens who are divided into 4 parties not all in the same coalitions have done Ok in some regions and ought to make some 2nd rounds too . Reportage in the old Communist paper
https://www.humanite.fr/regionales-departementales-2021-les-resultats-dans-votre-region-les-analyses-711377

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gregtimo - June 21, 2021

Sorry the Northern ‘Hauts’ saw the ‘combined Left’ candidate (including Greens) come 3rd at 19% , a debacle

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gregtimo - June 21, 2021

Another debacle in the Paris Region, this time in terms of having almost equally placed 2 Left of Centre and a hard leftist letting a relatively weak Far-Rightist through to the 2nd round (the hardcore Trotskyist LO managing a mere 1.5%. ) Turnout 31%
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89lections_r%C3%A9gionales_de_2021_en_%C3%8Ele-de-France

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22. pettyburgess - June 20, 2021

People Before Profit Belfast city councillor Michael Collins on the endless crisis in 21st Century Unionism. https://rupture.ie/articles/crisis-in-unionism

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23. gregtimo - June 22, 2021

Correction on the French Paris Regional; Some small good news, While the optics remain bad, The 2 leading candidates going to the 2nd round is more a tradition than a rule (The official requirement is more like 12% in the 1st round). On this occasion, as the leading Left of Centre list, the Greens are presenting their candidature backed by the Hard Left (Insoumise, PCF and allies) and PS led lists . With a combined score of 34% their only hope is a much increased turnout
https://www.humanite.fr/regionales-departementales-2021-ce-quil-faut-savoir-avant-le-2e-tour-carte-interactive-711377
Dire warnings were made pre-election on the Melenchon sceptic Hard Left site (of the Paris Region Hard Left candidate Clementine Autine)
http://www.regards.fr/la-midinale/article/regionales-2021-les-appareils-partisans-sont-deleteres-pour-la-gauche
Just read that additionally in only 13% of 18-24s and 17% of 25-34s are thought to have voted (Soft Left ‘Gramscian’ site) https://www.facebook.com/lvslmedia

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24. gregtimo - June 22, 2021

And finally some gossip on maneuverings within the porous Hard Left bloc , in which the old main Communist Party (PCF) has now for a long time been defacto in between Melenchon’s Insoumise and alternate allies the Socialist Party (PS) in rhetoric;
‘.Fabien Roussel (PCF leader) recently challenged a draft law of the rebels : “The rebels have just tabled a bill on the guarantee of employment. They believe that everyone should have a job and that if someone cannot find one, the state should be the employer of last resort. We don’t share that philosophy at all, that’s the Soviet era, the collective farm. ”
https://lvsl.fr/jean-luc-melenchon-et-le-parti-communiste-francais-histoire-et-perspectives/
In fact the PCF has been posturing (with their leader polling at best 4% currently) to the effect that they will run against Melenchon (polling at best 13%)
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2021/06/left-unity-can-stop-frances-rightward-drift
The polls fluctuating too much to make much sense yet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2022_French_presidential_election

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25. Tomboktu - June 22, 2021

Martin Kenny TD wishes LGBTQ+ activist well as attacker pleads guilty to assault

https://www.sinnfein.ie/contents/61178

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WorldbyStorm - June 22, 2021

Good to see

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26. Paul Culloty - June 22, 2021

Ah, the Scottish inglorious exits of my youth return …

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