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What you want to say – 21st July 2021 July 21, 2021

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As always, following on Dr. X’s suggestion, it’s all yours, “announcements, general discussion, whatever you choose”, feel free.

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1. EWI - July 21, 2021

O’Malley dead, a lot of old Eighties warriors out of the traps to sing his praises to the heavens but curiously leave out the Arms Trial. The ongoing effect of a recent RTÉ documentary?

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WorldbyStorm - July 21, 2021

I didn’t realise he had died until your comment. I will give him this, he was a serious politician. I wonder what is the chances of this energising some rightward shift by some TDs?

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banjoagbeanjoe - July 21, 2021

Gonna gave to switch off the radio and skip over half the paper for the next few days. To avoid all the guff. God rest his soul.

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WorldbyStorm - July 21, 2021

I will should we happen to meet in the near future speak not in the slightest about him! 🙂

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EWI - July 22, 2021

Irish Times delivering a free copy of their O’Malley edition around Dublin today, had a look through and curiously no real discussion of his role in the Arms Trial.

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EWI - July 21, 2021

I wonder what is the chances of this energising some rightward shift by some TDs?

I think the main effect will be to facilitate a month of anti-SF sermonising by the IT and their favourite FF leader.

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Francis Donohoe - July 21, 2021

I don’t think I’d place that as the main reason to dislike him but taking into account that it maybe a reason among many others, I think that opening an online book of condolences for him, as just announced, maybe a bit of a mistake if people are truly concerned about how his family will feel if people decide to express their true feelings about him.

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EWI - July 22, 2021

maybe a bit of a mistake if people are truly concerned about how his family will feel if people decide to express their true feelings about him.

Took a gander and ‘Please note that all messages that are deemed offensive or inappropriate will be moderated.’

Always had a notion that there was a particularly high b*llix quota in Irish public life coming out of Limerick (apologies to any Limerick CLRers)

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2. tomasoflatharta - July 21, 2021

Speaking on RTÉ’s News at One, Mary Harney said “Ireland is a better place because of Des O’Malley”. Disagree! It is a worse place because of him!

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EWI - July 21, 2021

O’Malley a key player in the BS charade which enabled nearly two decades of the Irish govt. washing its hands of the plight of the North, with horrific results.

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3. oliverbohs - July 21, 2021

O’Malley might be compared to Nigel Farage in English politics in terms of his effectiveness and influence in Irish politics. Good PR (proportional representation and public relations) were necessary factors. The Desocrats used with some skill the figleaf of liberal social policies, better than FG at the time, like how Farage charmed enough in the MSM to take enough focus away from UKIP fruitcakes. Both of them caused a rightwards gravitational pull in politics. And both their parties, once they’d got what they wanted had no more raison d’etre. Different styles it’s true, O’Malley seemed v concerned with looking ‘statesmenlike’ and being seen to be ‘standing up to Haughey’ by propping him up in govt for years. Am willing to be corrected on any and all of this. Did read Conduct Unbecoming but can’t remember any of it so maybe someone here does?

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WorldbyStorm - July 21, 2021

Yeah, the vacuity of the project on one level, is clear when one sees how when they lost almost all their TDs they just… stopped.

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4. Paul Culloty - July 21, 2021

The #NotMyPresident keyboard warriors citing Article 40 tend to forget the second paragraph which gives the Oireachtas very broad grounds for making exceptions to the rule, so if a layman can see that much, a Supreme Court challenge would seem rather pointless.

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5. roddy - July 21, 2021

Blaney ran the successful election campaign that put O’Malley into the Dail in 68.He said he never liked him from the first time he encountered him.

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Fergal - July 21, 2021

The PDs got absolutely massive coverage in the media when they started up… huge!

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Wes Ferry - July 22, 2021

Loved by the media because its existence was owed to loathing FF?

And it was oh so Dublin 4 conservative, littered with luvvies candidates such as Irish Times Editor Geraldine Kennedy, RTÉ’s Pat Cox and Late Late Show/RTÉ piano player Frank McNamara.

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roddy - July 22, 2021

When the PDs won 14 seats it was labelled “a political earthquake”.When SF got 14 seats a couple of elections ago it barely registered.

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6. EWI - July 21, 2021

I have excavated and published a large number of cases of gender-based sexual violence experienced by women in the Irish Revolution 1919-23. The term “forcible” or “forced” hair cutting was coined in my research project to capture a widespread form of sexual policing, bodily violence, and social control meted out by all sides (crown forces and republicans).

https://www.rte.ie/centuryireland/index.php/articles/understanding-violence-against-women-in-the-irish-revolution

We’ve apparently now progressed from a bait-and-switch between ‘gendered’ and ‘sexual’ violence to turning it into a catch-all category for very different things.

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7. Tomboktu - July 21, 2021

Ah, but Dessie O’Malley did so much for Irish men of a certain age who’d been forced by their mothers
into inappropriate side partings in their hair.

(Not a huge demographic, I accept, but liberation for an oppressed minority is a liberation.)

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8. NFB - July 22, 2021

There’s a nice border collie dog that we see in our area a lot, and it finally ran up to us today, which was great. In-between throwing the ball for it, it’s owner started talking to us.

Full on deep, deep level conspiracy theorist. In the lengthy rant we got David Ecke, Agenda 21, fluoride, chem trails, freemasons, NWO, lots about the Covid scam and, oh yes, everyone who works for RTE are Satanists. It was one of the saddest parts of the last 18 months for me. Truly pitiable.

Just someone to be tolerated and nodding along to until he went away of course but when he started talking about Irish politicians, MDH in particular, the rhetoric got distinctly more violent sounding. Made me think of Jo Cox a bit. The sooner we hit herd immunity and let the air out of this particular bubble the better.

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WorldbyStorm - July 22, 2021

What’s scary is hw close to the surface it was in that person that on a chance meeting with new people they felt impelled to talk about that. I can’t imagine any situation where meeting someone for the first time in that way I’d feel comfortable discussing my politics or feel it incumbent upon me, or appropriate, to hit them over the head with it.

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9. EWI - July 22, 2021

The Department of Finance confirmed that Davy employees will continue to benefit from the firm’s variable-pay structure that allows bonuses. Some 80 Bank of Ireland staff will also transfer to Davy by the end of 2022, allowing them to benefit from a similar pay arrangement, even as bonuses remain banked across bailed-out Irish banks. A similar arrangement has been agreed as part of AIB’s planned takeover of Goodbody Stockbrokers, announced in March.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/financial-services/davy-shareholders-to-share-up-to-605m-from-three-part-sale-1.4627498

Failed bank buys failed stockbrokers and bonuses all around.

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Fergal - July 22, 2021

Kind of wondering about all this … would it be possible that all this was planned…?

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EWI - July 22, 2021

It may or may not have been planned, but it’s certainly happening with full knowledge and blessing of the Government.

Which reminds me, has Watt arrived to take over in his new, highly-paid DoH position?

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Tomboktu - July 22, 2021

Watt has been in Health for a few months at this stage.

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banjoagbeanjoe - July 22, 2021

Failed bank buys failed stockbrokers and bonuses all around.

🙂 🙂 :). Brilliant!

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10. banjoagbeanjoe - July 22, 2021

No excuse needed to put this great track up. But billionaires going into space reminded me.

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11. sonofstan - July 22, 2021

Eric Clapton doesn’t like discrimination:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-57934379
This was the man whose racist ranting provoked the letter that started Rock against Racism.

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WorldbyStorm - July 23, 2021

He’s genuinely terrible. And Morrison too. What a shower.

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12. nollaigoj - July 23, 2021
nollaigoj - July 23, 2021

An ironic summary of the UK’s attitude to the agreement is made simple by the football analogy.

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13. Paul Culloty - July 23, 2021

A call for a leadership election from Soc Dem members and councillors:

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WorldbyStorm - July 23, 2021

Interesting. Wonder why now particularly.

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crocodileshoes - July 25, 2021

‘We are looking to what lays ahead’. What does that mean?

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14. sonofstan - July 24, 2021

My young one just sent me a pic of an anti-vax demo outside City Hall in Belfast: loads of Union Jacks on display – didn’t realise it was an exclusively PUL thing, but not too surprising I guess.

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Michael Carley - July 24, 2021

Saw one in Cardiff earlier. Funny mix of placards. “My body, my choice” was in there.

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15. Tomboktu - July 26, 2021

Since I asked twitter, I might as well ask here too

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Tomboktu - July 27, 2021

The joys of the Internet

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16. banjoagbeanjoe - July 26, 2021
17. Bagatelle's Underbuded Tenorites - July 27, 2021

As a counterpoint to my normally gloomy outlook on COVID there is this surprising fall off in cases in the UK. The cynic in me wishes to impetuously leap to the conclusion the data is being manipulated but the findings may be real and point to some hope the light at the end of the tunnel is nearer than thought and not an onrushing train.

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sonofstan - July 27, 2021

Schools closed in England now, and students dispersed. Possible that, by September, with 80%+ vaccination, we may not have another spike when education re-commences.
Figures from Scotland, where schools close earlier are also encouraging.

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WorldbyStorm - July 27, 2021

Fingers crossed. One thing I’ve read is that people themselves may be drawing back from meeting up, going into tricky contexts, etc so that’s having an effect. Just today thought about meeting some friends up in north Dublin but couldn’t guarantee somewhere outside so decided to leave it a week or two. I wonder if that kind of dynamic is in effect in lots of places?

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WorldbyStorm - July 27, 2021

BTW if that’s the ‘personal responsibility’ Johnson et al are always banging on about they may not be quite so delighted with it if it means certain commercial outlets don’t get the business they otherwise would.

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banjoagbeanjoe - July 27, 2021

And cases here currently plateaued around 1300 per day. Hopefully will stay that way and we’ll see a decline similar to the UK in a few weeks.
Imho, it’s simple – vaccination works. Get vaccinated, brothers and sisters.

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