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A new communist group May 16, 2022

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Anyone know anything about a new group: Party for Communism & Liberation (PCL Ireland)? They’ve stickers and posters up and a website https://www.pclireland.org/

Are they linked to the CYM split in the CPI?

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1. Pangurbán - May 16, 2022

See references to the great helmsman, which should explain the political orientation.

There’s the makings of a mass party here alright.

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Wes Ferry - May 17, 2022

The language is all a bit 1980s without the ‘colour’ of the old CPI-ML, isn’t it?

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2. Bobd - May 16, 2022

Senderista cosplay!

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3. banjoagbeanjoe - May 16, 2022

Are these the yokes that occupied that building on Eden Quay?

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EWI - May 16, 2022

If so I’ve shared a house in the past with one of them, and this is admittedly right up his alley

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4. mal - May 16, 2022

Where are all the Maoists coming from? Anyway, not a single reference to the climate crisis on their website, which seems like a massive thing to ignore. Or nuclear disarmament.

According to their “views” section they think the Russian invasion of Ukraine is a “necessary evil” to liberate the people’s republics, but that Russia is still imperialist. Well, it’s definitely a view.

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WorldbyStorm - May 16, 2022

It’s a real puzzle. I mean if I could think of a single strand of communism that seemed not particularly well-suited to Ireland in 2022, it would have to be Maoism.

No disrespect to this new group but why Mao, why Maoism, what would make one think ‘yeah, this is the one that’s definitely going to resonate with the people of this island, let’s go for it!’?

That said, hasn’t it sort of sparked along over the years – Saor Éire (the Cork one), CPI (M-L), and I knew a few individual Maoists in the mid-2000s who weren’t aligned with any particular org.

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5. benmadigan - May 16, 2022

The website states the PCL “aims to build a Communist People’s Union on the foundations of Marxist-Leninist-Maoism in Ireland”

Did no one tell them those are very shaky foundations indeed in Ireland?

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WorldbyStorm - May 16, 2022

Didn’t the Maoist bookshop in Limerick get attacked in the 70s, or was that in Cork?

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terrymdunne - May 17, 2022

It was both IIRC. It is notable that the Irish Revolutionary Forces premises which I think was in the same general area in Cork wasn’t attacked, likewise in Limerick Jim Kemmy was a few years later elected a councilor for the area the Maoist bookshop was in, so essentially a moral panic cooked up against the easier, more exotic, targets.

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benmadigan - May 17, 2022

both. The Cork bookshop was attacked by a mob one eveinng. I could find nothing more.
The report about Limerick comes from our very own Lounge! You’d think you were reading about the 1870s rather than the 1970s! https://cedarlounge.wordpress.com/2011/06/16/stevie-and-the-red-menace-maoists-in-limerick-in-1970/

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6. roddy - May 16, 2022

Seem to be sound on the National question.

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WorldbyStorm - May 16, 2022

Which National Question 😉

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7. roddy - May 16, 2022

I’m guessing the Irish question due to their somewhat forthright views on the Gardai,PSNI,Unionist extremists etc.References to “the Free State”would also seem to give a strong hint of a somewhat robust if dated position on the reintegration of the national territory!

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8. Colm B - May 16, 2022

Surely it’s a spoof?
A sort of surrealist art thing or something?

Or maybe not, in which case I’m due a parading around the school with a dunces cap on and a good beating once we get to the main hall for being a capitalist roader and an enemy of the Great Helmsman.

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9. irishelectionliterature - May 16, 2022

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10. LMS - May 17, 2022

I particularly enjoyed the article on fitness and anti-fascism that ends with this call to action: “a fascist worked out today, did you?”.

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entdinglichung - May 17, 2022

similar to the awful defunct German ML group “Jugendwiderstand” which promoted semi-professional boxing fights of their members on their web page

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terrymdunne - May 17, 2022

Thomas Johnson said gymnasiums would be central to the revolution.

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11. Aonrud ⚘ - May 17, 2022

Not the first to make this mistake, but they’ve built their website on an Israeli company’s platform that some anti-imperialists might encourage people to boycott…

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12. A new Communist Group in Ireland – Announced on the World Wide Web! | Tomás Ó Flatharta - May 17, 2022

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13. Nick Lenin - May 17, 2022

Looks like Maoist split from CYM. Goes with some of the style and content on the website. Also the rumours of Maoists who left their Dublin branch.

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14. pettyburgess - May 17, 2022

There’s quite the array of boutique Stalinisms to choose from in Ireland now. 2 CPIs, 2 Workers Parties, the CYM, and now apparently 2 Maoist grouplets.

Isn’t there also some group looking to redound or reconstitute or rehydrate the CPI? Or is that a project of the Northern wing of the CPI split?

Has there ever been such consumer choice before? Maybe at some point in the 70s?

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WorldbyStorm - May 17, 2022

Yeah, there’s a group or a number of individuals out there who are talking about reconstituting the CPI. Don’t think it’s the same as the Northern wing.

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Wes Ferry - May 17, 2022

All these ‘new’ groups and splits has to be good news for banner makers.

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15. Michael Carley - May 17, 2022

Can’t help thinking of the Marxist–Leninist Party of the Netherlands.

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WorldbyStorm - May 17, 2022

The smaller and more unlikely a formation there’s always that feeling isn’t there?

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banjoagbeanjoe - May 17, 2022

Yep. Mossad and the CIA and the FSB have probably already achieved their objectives with this one by getting the CLR brain trust to spend a few days mulling over this thread rather than sorting the left’s take on the Ukraine war or setting out the key elements for a transformation to socialism in 2022. Or any of the other things we do.

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yourcousin - May 17, 2022

Da’
In all honesty I’m more worried about my garden and flower beds, which the wife wants. Is this an acceptable substitute for international working class revolution for 2022? I promise if I can keep some plants alive this year then next year I’m 100% dedicated to the revolution.

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banjoagbeanjoe - May 17, 2022

Chef. Where’s the Left Gardeners thread?

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