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The great hope of the BLP? June 14, 2022

Posted by WorldbyStorm in Uncategorized.
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Some hope.

By the way this is an interesting analysis of Starmer.

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1. Phil - June 14, 2022

Thanks for the link! Part 3 of the post is a modified version of a comment I left on this site, btw – I thought I’d write it up properly and it grew.

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WorldbyStorm - June 14, 2022

It’s a great overview Phil. A lot of food for thought there.

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2. sonofstan - June 14, 2022
3. sonofstan - June 14, 2022

It would be funny if it wasn’t for the fact that we have a government going full fascist with regard to refugees and a clown for LOTO. I’m feeling sick.

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4. mal - June 14, 2022

You’d think one Ed Miliband was enough.

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5. crocodileshoes - June 15, 2022

The article doesn’t say it, but it’s clear Labour are still doing polling/focus groups in the red wall constituencies that are telling them: ‘Don’t say a word against Brexit!’ They daren’t, or think they’d daren’t, oppose other ‘patriotic’ policies for the same reason. If you read a lot about UK and US politics, it strikes you more and more that Starmer is Biden and Bernie Sanders is Corbin. (I know there are a million differences, but I’m talking about the policy dynamics between their respective factions).

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6to5against - June 16, 2022

The analogy works in several ways but it breaks down on one crucial aspect – Biden worked to create a coalition that included the left. And it might not be very impressive to most of us here, but on the basics he’s made some efforts to hold that coalition together.
Starmer seems to be trying to get elected by attacking the left with far more conviction than he attacks the Tories. And whatever the moral rights or wrongs of that, it seems to me to be a crap electoral strategy, justified only by the fact that something like it worked once, a quarter of a century ago.

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6. sonofstan - June 15, 2022

He can’t even do the simple and right thing.

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mal - June 15, 2022

Cowardice. Plain and simple. Can’t bring themselves to risk defending refugees even when it probably wouldn’t hurt them. I guess asylum seekers can’t vote.

Back in the early aughts there was an episode of the Mark Thomas Product tv show about how the New Labour government was treating asylum seekers and refugees. At the start of the episode he said that if anyone in the audience still liked the Labour party, by the end of the episode they’d be so disgusted they’d want to leave. At the end of the episode, Mark Thomas collected labour party cards from people in the audience who were members of the labour party and cut them up for them.

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WorldbyStorm - June 15, 2022

That lack of comment by Starmers spokesperson is pathetic. It really is.

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7. Wes Ferry - June 15, 2022

And re Nicola Sturgeon’s renewed push for an independence referendum for Scotland, where Labour has *one* solitary MP out of 59 (the SNP has 45), we have Starmer’s loyal lieutenant David Lammy MP standing four square with fellow unionist Tories and LibDems.

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sonofstan - June 15, 2022

To be fair to Lammy, he was full on anti-deportation on R4 this morning, and convincingly angry about it.

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Wes Ferry - June 15, 2022

But will Lammy commit Labour to scrapping the Tory Rwanda policy?

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8. Wes Ferry - June 15, 2022

A former Labour MP tweets:

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9. sonofstan - June 15, 2022

Starmer obviously thinks that clever clogs middle-class Labour votes in safe-ish urban seats (me basically) will think ‘well he can’t really be a racist’ whereas thicko working class voters in those horrible small towns will hear a fake dog whistle. It might be worth his while looking at the Green votes in constituencies like mine at the locals…..

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10. roddy - June 15, 2022

Eastwood and Hanna were totally fawning over Starmer up here the other day.Cut from the same cloth in their middle class arrogance.

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11. Wes Ferry - June 16, 2022

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crocodileshoes - June 17, 2022

‘It’s not that I’m not left wing…it’s that we can’t make any change unless we win a general election.’
Wes Streeting on James O’Brien’s podcast.

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