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More on Ukraine July 22, 2022

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From Tomás Ó Flaharta. “Free Maksym Butkevych, a Political Prisoner – Ukrainian Anti-Fascist and Human Rights Activist Captured by Invading Russian Troops”

From GreenLeft in Australia a timely warning that struggle continues on all fronts in Ukraine, both in terms of resisting the Russian invasion and also in terms of dealing with efforts by some in the government to push back against workers rights.

A poorly titled piece from RTÉ Radio 1 with a discussion between Bríd Smith of PBP and Neale Richmond of Fine Gael.

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1. yourcousin - July 22, 2022

Would agree, terrible title.

I would argue that the question from RTE is wrong in the first place. There’s only one group that can unilaterally end the war, that’s Russia. So to ask if “enough is being done to end the war” in terms of Western response to the Russian invasion is disingenuous from the start.

I feel that Brid Smith, like many commenters fundamentally misunderstand sanctions and how they work. Brid also says that the sanctions were designed to force Putin out of Ukraine and simultaneously “into a corner”. Lets be very clear, respecting Ukrainian sovereignty and staying within your own national boundaries is not a corner.

https://www.newstatesman.com/comment/2022/03/do-sanctions-and-soft-power-really-work-ukraine-russia

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/commentary/russia-economy-collapse-are-sanctions-working-ukraine-war-2818011

https://carnegieendowment.org/eurasiainsight/87432

The war is impacting Russia and their economy. It is contracting. It’s not a silver bullet, but as part of a larger non military response. Which signals that Putin’s invasion is not acceptable. To only focus on oil and gas is to miss the forest for the trees.

Let’s also state the obvious, sanctions are broad brush instruments and certainly not perfect. There are many things about them I would change (echoing Galeotti on not backing sanctions that would hit “normal” Russians), but to say “they’re not working” just because we can’t see immediate results a reflection of the 24/7 news cycle and social media world in which we expect instantaneous results on things. And that’s not the way all things work.

The idea that giving the Ukrainians the support which they are asking for is “escalation” is risable and essentially victim blaming here. It’s like someone breaks into your house and attacks you, but you’re expected to compromise with them so that the folks down the street aren’t bothered. And that contradictory approach undermines the very legitimate demand of debt cancellation. PBP and their inability to clap for Zelensky and their bemoaning of actually listening to the Ukrainians makes their so called “support” ring rather hollow.

Also, it’s hard to find peace when Lavrov expands Russian goals.

“Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said Wednesday that Moscow is expanding its military objectives in Ukraine and aims to seize control of entire southern regions.

Nearly five months after the Kremlin launched its full-scale invasion, Lavrov said in an interview with RIA Novosti and RT that Russia’s military targets now go beyond the so-called People’s Republics of Donetsk and Luhansk, and include areas where Russian forces have already made gains, including the Kherson and Zaporizhzhia regions and a ‘number of other territories.'”

https://www.politico.eu/article/sergey-lavrov-russia-expand-ukraine-war-goal/

Brid points out that a solution will be found, “in seven weeks, seven months, or seven years…”. This irony is that this war started long before this year. and it was Russia who invaded then and chose to invade once more this year.

There is not a parity blame here, and this idea that there is, is absolutely ludicrous.

It is not up to the West what form peace should take and what the Ukrainians ought to settle for.

Not a great history buff (cough, cough), but saying that we should negotiate with Putin because Stalin was at Yalta seems to be missing the point and getting things a little backwards.

And to wrap up, “this will obviously end up in nuclear Armageddon”. Why does no one discuss the American nuclear armament when critiquing US foreign policy?

So much wrong in just 11 minutes of broad cast.

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yourcousin - July 22, 2022

And another thing…because it’s slow here on a Friday. Because class war also never stops, leftists and workers organizations need to be at the table to stop shit like the proposed “labor reforms” recently proposed.

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/odr/ukraine-draft-law-5371-workers-rights-war-russia/

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2. tomasoflatharta - July 23, 2022

Good posts yourcousin. See also, concerning Ukraine’s neoliberal labour law : https://tomasoflatharta.com/2022/07/22/ukrainian-workers-war-on-two-fronts/

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3. tomasoflatharta - July 25, 2022

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