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Sunday and other stupid media statements of this week   July 31, 2022

Posted by guestposter in Uncategorized.

A headline from the Sunday Independent this morning deploys the ‘we’ trope…

If sexual liberty is such a good thing, why are we so unhappy?

National newspaper? Serious commentary on the climate crisis? Read on.

The Greens have had cows in their sights for a long time. They bizarrely wage war on rural farmers with great relish, pinpointing dairy cows as the cause of inevitable climate Armageddon at some unspecified point in the future. The choice is simple, the Greens believe: it is a question of salvation of the planet or farting cows. We cannot have both….

In the end, the figure agreed on by the two ministers was 25 per cent, a compromise that anyone could have predicted a week ago when all of the briefings and spin began. The ‘deal’ is nothing but a damp squib. It will not satisfy the small minority of Green Party voters who will not, in reality, be satisfied until the entire country is signed up to veganism and dairy farming has been consigned to history.


Pat Leahy has decided talking about David Trimble that he had four special qualities: “They revolve around four themes — willingness to change, courage, leadership and political skill.” Fair enough. But… 

The lessons from the political life of David Trimble are especially relevant for leaders in Dublin at a time when Irish politics is changing with great rapidity, and when the challenges faced by governments — however, they are constituted — are entirely unpredictable in their scale, scope and nature. Rarely has the future looked more uncertain. Climate change, economic turbulence, global instability, threats to social coherence and the demand for the State to do ever more for its people with finite resources — these are certainties in the times ahead which will test the abilities of whomever we choose to lead us.

They do could worse than reflecting on the life of David Trimble.


Here’s Newton Emerson while in the course of a piece that extols the virtues of the only Irish politician who understands Unionism, that’d be one B. Ahern, also makes this eye-watering case:

Arcane legal arguments are under way about whether the protocol really impinges on powersharing’s requirement for cross-community consent. Ahern was cutting through this by stating one side cannot simply impose its wishes on the other. If there was ever a legitimate “spirit of the agreement” argument, this is it.

Except, one side clearly can impose its wishes on the other, as exemplified by Brexit itself. 

All other examples welcome.



1. 6to5against - July 31, 2022

I know we usually focus on the Irish media here, but I think this from the Observer is worth a mention: ‘Has History got it all wrong on Cromwell’s hostility to Catholics’
i can’t find it online but this is a link to a photo….


6to5against - July 31, 2022

Apparently, he was all for religious freedom to be Catholic and wouldn’t have had to kill anybody if it wasn’t for those pesky priests, who started the whole thing, and pretty much forced his hand,….

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WorldbyStorm - July 31, 2022

That’s a good point – it’s not just Irish media. Examples from the UK very welcome too. Great spot 6to5.


rockroots - July 31, 2022

In fairness to Cromwell (!!!) – to say it was just a religious crusade is to vastly over-simplify matters. The Catholic Confederation were sworn supporters of an English royal family which had done nothing to deserve that support, and Cromwell could be equally vicious in his treatment of Protestant royalists. Which side would any of us have been on at the time? A more valid reason to dislike him is that as a republican revolutionary he was fiercely conservative (something we’re all too familiar with here) and stamped out any notions of truly radical democracy.

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6to5against - August 1, 2022

I get that that, rockroots – but what I found so annoying in the article was the tone – the suggestion that his atrocities somehow didn’t ‘count’ as astrocities if they were motivated by political rather than religious reasons.

And there’s a section where it is claimed that, in his writings, he had argued that it is always better to seek conversion by kindness rather than persecution. I don’t doubt that that is true. But the article leaves it there. As if this re-establishes his good name. It doesn’t even mention that, when push came to shove, he chose to go with brutal, unnecessary, persecution.

I’m all for historical investigations, and for constantly re-evaluating our view of the past. But I don’t this article does that at all. Was anybody arguing before this that Cromwell was motivated only by sectarian hatred in Ireland? I think the fact that it was part of the English wars of the time is well known. Unearthing a few obscure documents doesn’t really seem to change anything important.


WorldbyStorm - August 1, 2022

Broadly agree 6to5, it’s as if a pamphlet or a couple of documents upends perspectives on actual events and wipes them away. That said I also agree rock roots – his viciousness was political as much, perhaps even more, than sectarian. On the other hand for those subject to the acts he ordered – that being ordinary Irish (and English), the distinctions would be minimal.

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rockroots - August 1, 2022

Ah yes, well that’s a very fair point which I completely agree with.

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WorldbyStorm - August 1, 2022

I think your point about the republicanism being rooted in conservatism is spot on. I suppose it’s like similar ideological positions it can go any way, progressive or reactionary and it’s vital to ensure that it is the former rather than the latter, and to be aware of the capability for it to go to the latter if not channeled correctly.

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Paul Culloty - August 2, 2022

Replying to WorldbyStorm on the conservatism of Commonwealth politics, one has to look at the fates of the Diggers and Levellers once the Cromwellian regime had become established, both favoured popular democracy and working-class rights, even venturing into proto-socialism in the case of the former group, but were rapidly crushed when their usefulness to vested interests had been exhausted.

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WorldbyStorm - August 3, 2022

+1 genuine radicalism snuffed out


2. LMS - July 31, 2022

Two things about the Creighton piece:
1. Climate Armageddon is not going to happen at “some unspecified point in the future” it’s literally happening all around us right now (frog in the boiling pot etc.)
2. This supposed vendetta that the greens have against farmers is precisely what makes them such useful idiots for FF/FG/the establishment at large. It turns the conversation into out-of-touch urbanites versus salt-of-the-earth rural dwellers when it should be about what can we all do to change our society and make a difference to emissions etc. For this reason I’ll never be able to take the greens seriously as a force for positive action on climate issues.

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3. Wes Ferry - July 31, 2022

“If sexual liberty is such a good thing, why are we so unhappy?”

Because when anyone finds out that you work for the Sunday Independent they don’t want to drink with you, never mind shag you.

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4. Roger Cole - August 2, 2022

Cromwell was the worst of the warmongering English imperialist thugs.
The ruling elite in England remain warmongering imperialist thugs.


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