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What you want to say – 24th May 2023  May 24, 2023

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As always, following on Dr. X’s suggestion, it’s all yours, “announcements, general discussion, whatever you choose”, feel free.

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1. Alibaba - May 24, 2023
2. Tomboktu - May 24, 2023

It’s the 100th anniversary of the end of the civil war today.

It’s it being marked as part of the decade of centenaries?

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3. Wes Ferry - May 24, 2023

USA: The poem Amanda Gorman read at President Biden’s inauguration is now banned in elementary classes at a school in the Miami area after one parent complained it had “indirect hate messages,” and that its purpose was to cause “confusion” and “indoctrinate students.”
https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/florida-school-bans-amanda-gorman-poem-over-one-parent-s-crt-fears-176202309953

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WorldbyStorm - May 24, 2023

That’s insane.

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Wes Ferry - May 24, 2023

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4. yourcousin - May 25, 2023

Well shit. Hitting me harder than I ever would’ve expected.

RIP Tina Turner

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hzQnPz6TpGc&pp=ygUecHJvdWQgbWFyeSBpa2UgYW5kIHRpbmEgdHVybmVy

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5. Tomboktu - May 25, 2023

“FG ministers didn’t intend ‘to upset anyone’ – Coveney”

What did he think the three Ministers were doing? One of them is a minister in the department of finance. They’re not stupid people.

https://forsatradeunion.newsweaver.com/singlemessagetest/1bibwetqzs0

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WorldbyStorm - May 25, 2023

The first shots in the effort to build some distinctiveness between FF and FG? Kind of inept though

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6. Aonrud ⚘ - May 25, 2023

Some new additions to the Archiving Reproductive Health project from the DRI for the 5th anniversary of the Repeal referendum today: https://dri.ie/new-collections-published-archiving-reproductive-health-5th-anniversary-repeal-referendum

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7. Wes Ferry - May 25, 2023

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8. Wes Ferry - May 26, 2023

Why the Hollywood Writers Strike Matters: Lights, Camera Action
Farrah Hassen: If you work for a living in this increasingly unfair economy — or just watch TV — you have a stake in the Hollywood writers strike

https://hollywoodprogressive.com/film/hollywood-writers-strike-matters

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9. roddy - May 27, 2023

Many on here will have known Francie Donnelly of the WP.He died yesterday aged 94 and will be buried in Glen,Maghera on Monday.

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banjoagbeanjoe - May 27, 2023

Thanks Roddy.
I saw and heard Francie at a few WP árdfheiseanna. Trócaire air.

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10. Paul Culloty - May 27, 2023

After recent downward poll trends, SF seems to have gained a bounce from the NI election results:

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WorldbyStorm - May 27, 2023

That’s not a bad boost for them.

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11. Paul Culloty - May 27, 2023

As well as the Turkish second round, somewhat of a Spanish Super Sunday, with most of the autonomous communities (but not the Basque Country, Catalonia, Galicia or Andalusia) holding regional elections, while mayoral votes occur in both Barcelona and Madrid.

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Tomboktu - May 28, 2023

And from Turkey

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12. Aonrud ⚘ - May 28, 2023

Two quite different parties founded on this day: https://www.leftarchive.ie/calendar/on-this-day/05/28/

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13. Paul Culloty - May 28, 2023

Red C poll results on immigration:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxOh7WlX0AIrTS_?format=jpg&name=large

On the first result, the figure is 70% for FG voters, 74% for FF, and 83% for SF supporters.

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WorldbyStorm - May 28, 2023

I kind of think that in relation to that poll this from Irish Election Projections kind of gets it right (albeit talking about another poll).

January 2023 Projections Update

For example:

“(Anyway, seems if they really had to do this it would have been easier to just do the kind of ranked-issue polling we have seen in the past, where, by the way, immigration has historically not been a priority issue for 95%+ of people. But abstruse questions mean that the answers can be interpreted to mean whatever you want, so you can get your dramatic headline about how everyone, but especially Sinn Féin, hates refugees now.)”

I’d love to see something that placed this issue on the list of voters priorities. That at least would give us a sense of how politically active, as it were, the issue was. There’s a broader issue which is that the ‘protests’ have actually died back, the situation while absolutely intolerable with regard to refugees homeless has calmed and so on. But the narrative the SBP appears to be presenting is one that waltzes past that.

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14. Wes Ferry - May 28, 2023

USA – Daily Beast reports sad news:

MAGA Supporters Scammed With Worthless Trump Bucks

Internet scammers are reportedly pushing “Trump Bucks” online which display pictures of the former president and promise MAGA supporters big profits.

John Amann told NBC News he bought $2,200 worth of Trump Bucks only to discover they are worthless when he tried to cash them in. He is now warning other Trump supporters not to fall for the scam.

NBC identified Patriots Dynasty, Patriots Future and USA Patriots as the companies behind Trump Bucks and found at least a dozen people like Amann who invested thousands of dollars after watching the misleading pitches on Telegram that suggested Trump was endorsing the products.

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WorldbyStorm - May 28, 2023

FFS what is with these people?

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Wes Ferry - May 28, 2023

Cult mentality erases all common sense.

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15. banjoagbeanjoe - May 28, 2023

At a WP Árdfheis in the late eighties, Martin Lynch said socialism is about love. I think he’s right.

But a relegation battle is about hate. For the last five months I have been consumed with hate. Every weekend I have hated with a passion Crystal Palace, Wolverhampton Wanderers, Bournemouth, Everton, Leicester City, Nottingham Forest and various others. Teams that dropped points to any of those teams I have hated with a special hate.
My life for these months has been consumed with negativity, ill will, bad humour and hatred.
It’s over now. Like the Civil War. The wounds will heal by September please God.
But there’s every likelihood that this time next year I will be talking about my hatred for the likes of Stoke City and Cardiff City and Rotherham and Huddersfield Town. Leeds are that shit.

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WorldbyStorm - May 28, 2023

And I thought left politics was bad! 🙂

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16. Tomboktu - May 29, 2023

Professor Ray McDermott n today’s Irish Times: “Having health insurance with Laya or Irish Life puts you at a “serious disadvantage” if you have cancer”.

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17. Colm B - May 29, 2023

If you want to see what happens to a radical left party that enters coalition with a reformist/social liberal party just look at Podemos and allies results in yesterday’s Spanish and regional/city elections.

The PSOE lost on some places to the PP but held their own in many contests. Podemos et al tanked. I know it’s a complex process and that national and regional factors play a big role, but again and again the same things happens – you can’t claim to be in the business of radically transforming society and then just turn out to be a mildly reformist governing party. Most of your voters then do the sensible thing of voting for the original mildly reformist governing party rather than your faded brand of red.

I hope PBP are watching this and similar results closely.

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18. Paul Culloty - May 29, 2023

And Sanchez has now promptly called a general election in the back of those mixed local results – it seems part of the motivation is prevent Yolanda Diaz, the Podemos leader, from completing her Sumar project, which intends to reunify those groupings to the left of the PSOE. The other element at play appears to be highlighting the disparity between the PP and Vox in the hope that Spanish voters will have second thoughts about a change in government.

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19. Tomboktu - May 30, 2023

What is behind the scale of the opposition to upgrading the A5 road in the North?

Is it just lots of NIMBYism, or is the fact that it would connect two parts of the republic on this island an unspoken source of the opposition?

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WorldbyStorm - May 30, 2023

It’s a bit hard to fathom. Given the state of roads in the North as against the South (and granted there are issues around the environment and car use but still…) I would think it a necessity to upgrade them.

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WorldbyStorm - May 30, 2023

Btw I travel the A5 at least four times a year. It’s genuinely shocking in parts how badly maintained it is whatever else

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roddy - May 30, 2023

Farmers and “environmentalists” both of whom should be told to feck away off.”Environmentalists also opposed the A6 and delayed it for years on 2 totally spurious grounds.They alleged that the road would drive away Hooper swans. The swans are still there 2 years after the road opened.They also said the road passed through “Heaney country”- total horseshit as confirmed by no less than Heaney’s brother Hugh.Middle class bullshitters from North Down talking about an area 50 miles away that they knew nothing about.

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yourcousin - May 30, 2023

roddy,
Careful what you say about farmers, don’t want to damage the client list.

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banjoagbeanjoe - May 30, 2023

I think the question might be are they evangelical environmentalists and Protestant farmers or green environmentalists and Catholic farmers?

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20. Paul Culloty - May 30, 2023

One of the more unusual stats from today’s Census data – the fastest growing religion is actually Orthodox, which has risen from 60,000 to 100,000, and this was largely before the arrival of Ukrainians, so the denomination may well currently be higher than the Anglican figure of 124,000.

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banjoagbeanjoe - May 30, 2023

Also, a serious drop in the numbers of Roman Catholics in the RoI – down 10%. Could this have implications for the vote on a UI?

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Tomboktu - May 31, 2023

The number of Roman Catholics fell in the 2016 census by 134 thousand, this time it fell by 181 thousand.

The number who described themselves as lapsed Catholics fell in 2022 by nearly 5,000. Have lapsed Catholics stopped describing themselves that way?

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6to5against - May 31, 2023

I used to always describe myself as Catholic in the census, because I felt it was important to assert my own cultural background – despite having no real religious belief.
But in recent years I noticed that the high percentage of catholics in the country was being quoted as a reason to maintain catholic dominance of schools (and hospitals to a lesser extent), so I switched to ‘no religion’
I would never use ‘lapsed catholic’.

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WorldbyStorm - May 31, 2023

Funny I had a similar take on it. Lapsed is an odd word.

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Tomboktu - May 31, 2023

We can expect David Quinn et al. to complain that the Census was stacked against the (Roman) Catholic church because the first option in the religion section was ‘No Religion’. I expect that is part of why the number saying they are lapsed was down – you got the simpler choice first.

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alanmyler - May 31, 2023

About “lapsed catholic”, I might be remembering this incorrectly but I thought that until a few years ago it was possible to write to the bishop or the PP of the church in which one was baptised in order to state that one no longer wished to be a member of the church, or whatever terminology is used. But due to the number of people signing themselves out of the church this option was revoked, meaning that there’s no way to sign out, they have you for life. Obviously one can just walk away and have nothing to do with them, but come the day of judgement one will still have to line up at the pearly gates in the RCC queue 😉

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WorldbyStorm - May 31, 2023

🙂 so I’d better bring a flask, sandwiches and a good book on the PCI in the 1980s so!

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banjoagbeanjoe - May 31, 2023

No Alan. You’ll be in a very, very short queue… the ex-BC queue.

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alanmyler - May 31, 2023

Joe I hope your recent disclosure of hatred as a Leeds fan doesn’t mean that you’ll be relegated down under yourself come the big day 😉

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banjoagbeanjoe - May 31, 2023

Me n Leeds. We’re only going one way.

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alanmyler - May 31, 2023

Your eternity will be spent watching this on continuous loop.

BTW that’s a thumping song from Bruce, I don’t think I’ve heard that one since my first summer in London in 1985 when one of my housemates had the Born In The USA album.

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banjoagbeanjoe - May 31, 2023

The thing with the hatred of Everton and Bournemouth and all those. It was temporary. It’s over now. Chelsea though, like class that hatred is permanent.

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