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Telling it like it is at the Irish Times? or how the left shouldn’t be afraid to praise where praise is due. January 11, 2007

Posted by WorldbyStorm in Fine Gael, Irish Election 2007, Irish Labour Party, Irish Politics, Uncategorized.
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An odd article in the Irish Times [sub req’d] at the weekend by Eddie Holt. Holt tends to buck the general trend in the IT for all things centrist or conservative and opens a window on the sort of paper it largely used to be in the dim and distant past i.e. the late 1980s and early 1990s. He was, and to some extent remains on the left side of the balance sheet and to my mind his finest hour was as TV critic (rather like Shane Hegarty who came after him – perhaps Holt played John the Baptist to his Jesus, nah, perhaps not). There he was witty, incisive and accurate. A genuine pleasure to read.

Some years back he moved onto pastures new in his weekly column on a Saturday where he plies a fairly standard leftist diet. Broadly anti-Bush, pro-secular, concerned with the media, cognisant of the trials and tribulations of the world of work both public sector and private, in the past rather anti-Republican, why yes, seeing as you ask, not a hundred miles away philosophically from this very spot in some respects. However, being on the left while often good is not always sufficient.

In his latest column we’re treated to a critique of Bertie Ahern’s New Year’s message and in particular the phrase “Throughout our history Ireland has demonstrated by word and deed our commitment to the due dignity of the individual.” Holt points up the platitudinous nature of that sentence by pointing to the instances where the individual has been sorely undermined by the state. And fair enough. But then Holt states that “Strangely, Bertie Ahern’s latest platitude sounds as cavalier as his past declaration that he is a “socialist”. You might expect a socialist to emphasise communal aspects of society over individual ones. Not Bertie Ahern, however – he has typically chosen to try to be all things to all people, stressing individuality when it suits him and communality at other times”. Alright. Or perhaps it’s possible to be both a socialist and an individualist, that two seemingly contradictory positions can be held. Or more realistically the meaning of such terms in the rhetorical discourse that is the traditional New Year’s message is best taken with a significant grain of salt and a return to the real turkey and ham – or quorn depending on choice. Come on Eddie, we don’t really expect much more than that for a New Years message, any more than we expect a truly honest account of a grooms characteristics in a best man’s speech, and really, would we thank him for it either? The controls are set for four months of much more serious political discussion. In any case Ahern is a populist centrist politician. He pitches left, he pitches right. There is no great philosophy there, but so what? (Incidentally in yesterday’s Irish Times [sub req’d] Fintan O’Toole argues that Enda Kenny lost credibility – or ‘blew it’ when he engaged with a heckling Dick Roche during the debate on the Ahern payments controversy. O’Toole says “In a painfully revealing interview with Mark Hennessy in Friday’s Irish Times, Enda Kenny preened himself on getting good focus-group reactions to his stances on issues such as the statutory rape controversy and the age of consent. He added, damningly: “It is not easy to have the same sense of outrage and passion about economics, or whatever else.” If you can’t feel passion and outrage about social and economic justice, how are you going to offer voters a real choice?”

Wrong question. Enda Kenny doesn’t feel ‘passionately’ about those issues – although I have no doubt he cares about them – because he is, and let’s be clear about this, a fairly unideological centre/centre-right politician. No more no less. As well ask the birds to float down from the trees and become fish as expect him to channel that anger or that energy on those issues in the way O’Toole seems to demand (Gerry O’Quigley – who would have a similar background to at least some on the CLR, and who made some very thought-provoking points I’ve been meaning to respond to about the Workers’ Party and after, and will soon – on the always interesting ie-politics deals with the same column in greater depth).

So it’s not that Enda Kenny, who is by all accounts a personable and decent man, blew it but rather that Fintan is in the position of setting his expectations, even in the face of all previous evidence way too high… And if O’Toole expects any future Labour/FG government to act anywhere close to his expectations he’s set for even more disappointment).

Still, speaking of all things religious, Holt really becomes exercised when he discusses Pope Benedict XVI and say’s “Mind you, Pope Benedict XVI, in his New Year homily in St Peter’s Basilica in Rome, described peace as a “gift to invoke with prayer, a task to carry out with courage, without ever tiring”. Peace, he added, can only be achieved if individuals’ human rights are respected. He stressed that there can be no excuse for treating people as “objects”.” and goes onto say “However, in a speech last September at Germany’s University of Regensburg, Pope Benedict had jeopardised peace by quoting a long dead Christian emperor who said the prophet Muhammad had brought the world only “evil and inhuman things”. After all, in Muslim societies to insult Muhammad is among the gravest crimes possible…Which is the real Benedict? Which is the real Bertie? They can’t, after all, have it both ways.”

Well look, me and Pope Benedict have some serious differences of opinion on a broad range of issues. But – and I’m entertained to find myself in the position of defending him, and voluntarily at that – this is I believe the same Pope Benedict XVI who travelled to Turkey within recent months, encouraged it’s accession to the EU, prayed in a mosque and generally accounted for himself with a degree of dignity and respectfulness that did him some credit.

In any event here we have a clear example of the educative results of a global storm of outrage. Pope Benedict, perhaps unwillingly, perhaps with massive reservations or perhaps not, managed to modify his stance on a particularly troubling issue for all of us with an interest in the future of Europe and it’s relations with a significant minority population on this continent. I see little to condemn in that and a lot to applaud. Sure, he remains essentially a conservative figure, I hold no hope that his period as Pope will usher in Vatican III (although some of the noises about contraception in the developing world are encouraging). But credit where credit is due. As the leader of one of the great monotheistic religions his visit to Turkey was a good days work.

Now there is a terrible tendency in discussions and arguments – particularly, but not exclusively on the right – to see change as indicating ‘flip-flop’ and it’s opposite as indicating rigid principle, to view multi-layered opinions or even contradictory thoughts as indicating insincerity or confusion. But the truth is that changes of opinion are to be welcomed by progressives if those changes are progressive. And while the sort of rather hackneyed populism of Ahern can often be gallling his basic points are neither innately contradictory nor cause for outrage, indeed now more than ever the left has to forge a socialism which understands individualism because that individualism (whether faux-individualism or not) is like the genetic code of the society we live in. The left should also be extremely wary of indulging in such a glib and counterproductive categorising. Moreover contradiction can often indicate complexity or can be a catalyst for same.

So what’s it to be? The simple comforts of a world where the battle lines are nicely drawn up and where ‘our’ guys are the only repositories of truth while ‘their’ guys are insincere and shifty? Fine, if the facts fit the bill, or if the cause is sufficiently important. But poring over New Years messages, and ignoring one positive set of consequences after earlier negative statements, or hoping that centrists will act like radicals, doesn’t seem to me to necessarily be the way forward.

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1. Eagle - January 12, 2007

Holt is totally wrong on the Pope and peace. The Pope was exercising one of the basic human rights – freedom of expression. He has opinions on Islam, history, etc. and he expressed some of those at Regensburg. Holt would rather he shut up rather than risk what he thinks is peace. If peace means being afraid to stand up for what you believe, I’ll pass. However, I don’t think fear of speaking up could ever be considered part of peace.

What’s so shocking to me is that I doubt Holt would have any trouble quoting any 18th century critic of Catholicism, so why should someone be afraid to make mention of a 14th century critic of Islam?

I’m not sure I’m expressing myself properly here, but I’ll post it anyway and see if anything better comes to me later.

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2. Pidge - January 12, 2007

“Enda Kenny doesn’t feel ‘passionately’ about those issues – although I have no doubt he cares about them – because he is, and let’s be clear about this, a fairly unideological centre/centre-right politician. No more no less.”

Perhaps I’m missing the point, but are you arguing that only ideological left or right politicians can be “passionate” about what they see as social and economic justice?

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3. Eagle - January 12, 2007

I think the point about Kenny’s ideology is that passion is generally less evident when your own views are centrist. You don’t need to be as passionately driven by an issue if the current policy is more or less what you want anyway.

At least, that’s how I understood it.

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4. Lorenzo - January 12, 2007

Eddie has to be my least favourite of the I.T. columnists. Even on the occasions when I am broadly in agreement with which ever of the three or four points he is constantly making (and re-making and re-re-making), he still manages to annoy me intensely. The masochist in me makes me read his column every week.

His main problem is one of predictibility – I can generally read the first paragraph and know almost exactly the slant of the article and what it is going to contain. I can’t remember the last time he actually came up with something new, something I didn’t already know or had not already heard.

You get better, fresher analysis and opinion (whether I agree or not with it) on the C.L.R. any day of the week than I have ever read from Eddie.

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5. chekov - January 12, 2007

I think you’re being a bit hard on Eddie. It’s surprisingly difficult to find something topical to write about over the holiday season.

And eagle above, I think you’re missing the point entirely. Disagreeing with what somebody says is not the same thing as disagreeing with their right to say that something. I mean, he’s perfectly entitled to say that he thinks the pope’s statements are contradictory and that does not mean that he thinks the pope doesn’t have the right to say contradictory things.

Also, I have to agree with worldbystorm about Kenny’s lack of passion. The very fact that he was raising these things with focus groups implies that he isn’t passionate about them. I mean, presumably if the focus groups hadn’t liked his message, he would have modified it (if not why bother in the first place) – hardly the sign of somebody who feels passionately about something. Indeed, if he did feel passionately about the age of consent, one would be a bit worried. People who are passionately interested in teenagers having sex are in an unhealthy psychological space, to put it mildly.

Finally, to the residents, why don’t you register your blog with irishblogs.ie – it’s where I normally go to look for blog updates in the Irish blogosphere and I often forget to check blogs that aren’t listed there – I’m sure there are a few others in the same boat.

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6. smiffy - January 12, 2007

Cheers chekov,

I thought we were registered, but I’ll look into it again.

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7. chekov - January 12, 2007

“I thought we were registered, but I’ll look into it again.”

Maybe I missed it, but I’ve never noticed any cedar lounge posts on there.

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8. smiffy - January 12, 2007

Clearly the agents of reaction over there are trying the censor our MESSAGE! :angryface:

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9. Eagle - January 13, 2007

Chekov,

It isn’t that Holt disagrees with the Pope, he’s saying that the Pope is threatening the peace by saying what he said. Now, to be honest I haven’t read the article in question I’m going on the quote above.

“However, in a speech last September at Germany’s University of Regensburg, Pope Benedict had jeopardised peace by quoting a long dead Christian emperor who said the prophet Muhammad had brought the world only “evil and inhuman things”.

How had the Pope jeapordised the peace? Did the quote call on Christians (or anyone?) to wage war on Muslims (or anyone)? No, all the Pope did by using that quote is ask some questions of Islam/Muslims. (“What did Mohammed bring to the world? Only evil and inhuman things.” — or something along those lines.) There are many people in the west who frequently ask tougher questions than that of Christianity/Christians and nobody claims the questioner has “jeapordised the peace”.

The implication of what Holt said is that the Pope should not say what he said. He’s not criticizing what the Pope said, he’s saying the Pope should not have said it. Holt offered nothing to contradict the Pope or the 14th century critic of Islam the Pope quoted. It’s possible Holt agrees with the Pope, but he doesn’t want the Pope to say it. It’s no different than all those in the west who believe the Danish newspaper “jeapordised the peace” by publishing those cartoons.

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10. Lorenzo - January 13, 2007

Somebody is listening. Eddie has been axed from the Irish Times. His column in today’s paper is his last.

I guess I’ll have to find something else to raise my anger levels next weekend.

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11. WorldbyStorm - January 14, 2007

Jeekers!

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12. joemomma - January 14, 2007

It’s clear that WorldbyStorm, like the Pope, should weigh his words a bit more carefully in light of the considerable power they command. Today it’s getting Eddie Holt fired, tomorrow it might be unrest in the streets.

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13. WorldbyStorm - January 14, 2007

Surely the IT has more enlightened HR/employment policies than letting someone go with one weeks notice?

Don’t they?

😦

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