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Don’t they mean the Republic? August 27, 2019

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Ireland’s population is estimated to be almost 5 million, with non-Irish nationals accounting for almost 13% of the total population, figures published by the Central Statistics Office have shown.The report by the CSO has shown population growth of 64,500 in the year to April 2019.

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1. EWI - August 27, 2019

Unfortunately they don’t. Welcome to the modern RTÉ, entirely captured by the liberal Dublin middle-class.

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2. Liberius - August 27, 2019

Ireland’s usually resident population is estimated to be 4,921,500 in April 2019

It’s from the CSO not RTÉ, though it’s not exactly surprising given that it is the official name of the State (Article 4), it might not have been the intended usage when the constitution was written but it is the de facto outcome. Constitutional amendment anyone?

https://cso.ie/en/csolatestnews/pressreleases/2019pressreleases/pressstatementpopulationandmigrationestimatesapril2019/

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WorldbyStorm - August 27, 2019

Well, I’d hope that’s not necessary… I’ve no problem with the name of the state – but I’d have expected the CSO to be a bit more precise in regard to the extent of the state. Interesting that in the quotes on the CSO site the spokesperson does use the term ‘state’ but the bullet points refer to ‘Ireland’.

In a way what gets me is the imprecision.

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EWI - August 27, 2019

though it’s not exactly surprising given that it is the official name of the State (Article 4)

You could argue, at least in political terms, that such problems were originally covered by Articles 2 and 3.

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Liberius - August 28, 2019

Probably, though it does raise a question if article 4 should have been amended along with them in 1998. I’d agree with WbS that the CSO shouldn’t be dealing in imprecision, though I’m not sure it’s entirely their fault given that the state itself deals in imprecision for political purposes.

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EWI - August 28, 2019

though I’m not sure it’s entirely their fault given that the state itself deals in imprecision for political purposes.

This is the very problem, though (a lot about the former Free State is deliberately crouched in contradiction and ambiguity for those political purposes).

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3. Saints and Scholars - August 28, 2019

I wonder if you are being a bit punctilious here folks. First, the CSO is hardly going to be reporting on figures for the island of Ireland. Second is the constitutional backing already referenced. Third though is the consistency with equivalent releases for 2018 and 2017 (I must confess I went back no further). This is the first year that I can recall the CSO being accused of not getting it right in its use of “Ireland”. I don’t think that accusation stands up except for those who are sniffing hard for something with which to find fault. Do you all need to get out and about a bit more?

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Joe - August 28, 2019

“Do you all need to get out and about a bit more?”

I can’t speak for anyone else on here but I do, yeah.

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WorldbyStorm - August 28, 2019

My gripe is with firstly RTÉ which uses the term in this fairly specific context of populations within the state as if it encompasses the entirety of the island and likewise with the bullet points on the CSO press release. Technically it’s simply incorrect – and to someone just giving a cursory look at this that specific context might be missed.

Is that the biggest problem in the world? Of course not, but given the importance of statistical information (and perhaps ever more so) a little effort would be no harm. This is, after all, precisely what people are paid to get right.

By the by the overall population of the island is reaching 7m. Still 1.2 to 1.5m less than just prior to the Famine.

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