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A revealing aside… October 29, 2014

Posted by WorldbyStorm in Uncategorized.

…about Israel in today’s reports about the war of words between the US administration and the government of that state.

Responding to the remarks late on Tuesday night, Israel’s far-right economics minister, Naftali Bennett, used his Facebook page to call for Washington to renounce the comments: “If what was written [in The Atlantic] is true, then it appears the current administration plans to throw Israel under the bus.
The prime minister is not a private person but the leader of the Jewish state and the whole Jewish world. Such severe insults towards the prime minister of Israel are hurtful to millions of Israeli citizens and Jews all over the world.
“Instead of attacking Israel and forcing it to accept suicidal terms, it should be strengthened. I call on the US administration to renounce these coarse comments and to reject them outright.”

That’s a most interesting contention/confusion in regard to a Republic with a President – even in a context where executive power is vested in the PM, and I think it speaks volumes about deeply problematic dynamics within Israeli politics and beyond and about the nature of relationships that are expected to be extant between the state and Jews outside Israel on the part of some within the state. I’d almost say that it is a central part of the problem – an attitude whereby what the government of Israel does is in essence indivisible from the best interests of the Israeli and Jewish people.


1. sonofstan - October 29, 2014


Given that ‘Irishness’ is also a somewhat dispersed identity, consider how absurd it would be for Enda to claim leadership of the whole Irish world.


WorldbyStorm - October 29, 2014

Very true. I find it very depressing to be honest – it’s an abdication of thought on the part of those who promote it (not surprisingly perhaps) and those who accept it.


EWI - October 30, 2014

Isn’t that implicit in the whole ‘Irish diaspora’ thing, though?


FergusD - October 30, 2014

In so far as the Irish diaspora would look for a leader (doubtful) I would imagine it would be the president of the RoI.


Michael Carley - October 30, 2014

And Irish presidents (all of them) have stayed away from claiming leadership of the global `Irish community’.


sonofstan - October 31, 2014

I suppose a taoiseach might be able to claim some representative function with regard to the Irish abroad if citizens living outside the state were given the vote.


WorldbyStorm - October 31, 2014

It wouldn’t hurt!


Gewerkschaftler - October 31, 2014

True dat, SoS.


Michael Carley - October 31, 2014

Does anyone believe that the politicians of a country where emigration is the result of decades of political venality and mediocrity will give emigrants the vote?


yourcousin - October 31, 2014

Does anyone believe that the politicians of a country where emigration is the result of decades of political venality and mediocrity will give emigrants the vote?

It hasn’t seemed to hurt Fidesz any.


2. Starkadder - October 30, 2014

If a Gentile said a thug like Netanyahu represented the entire
Jewish people, wouldn’t they be called an anti-Semite?


3. Liberius - October 30, 2014

I was watching coverage of the UN this evening, as you do, and was struck by how the Israeli representative Ron Prosor chose to respond to the issue of settlers; he responded by brandishing a bible and claiming that there are no settlers because Jews belong there, more or less. How do you deal with a society for whom even the ambassadors are extremists?


Alibaba - October 30, 2014

This reminds me of the notion that if you tell a whopper of a lie, no one would believe that someone has the gall to distort the truth so infamously.

Here we have the ambassador Prosor who was elected unanimously to chair the elections for the United Nations of Human Rights Committee in 2014.

Here we have the ambassador Prosor who says such outrageous things whilst the Israeli regime pushes ahead with settlements in occupied East Jerusalem and the West Bank.


4. Gewerkschaftler - October 30, 2014

The deliberate leaking of US internal opinions about Israel is quite significant IMO. The Israeli lobby in US politics is not what it was.

Bibi is, significantly, claiming world leadership just when increasing numbers of (younger) Jews are peeling away from uncritical support of Israel.

But it also revealed the the US were egging the Israeli’s to attack Iran – he didn’t, and that’s perhaps what narked them.


Gewerkschaftler - October 30, 2014

Sorry – one shouldn’t say ‘the Israelis’ – please read ‘the lunatic war-party Israeli Government(s)’ instead.


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