Huh? Have I missed something? May 4, 2017
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A third proposal from Solidarity/People Before Profit TD Joan Collins to replace the daily prayer with 30 seconds of silent reflection was also defeated by 96 votes to 19, with 17 abstentions.
On the issue itself – small steps.
Following this, the overall vote on adding 30 seconds of silent reflection to the daily prayer was passed.
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except it now says “(2) All members present shall stand while the
prayer is being read, and when it is
concluded, members shall remain standing
for 30 seconds of silent reflection.’.”” http://www.oireachtas.ie/documents/thisweek/motions_2017/m060417.pdf it previously didn’t say anything about what members should do while the prayer was being read out.
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They’re a bunch of know-nothings in that Dáil. Anyone with a granny knows that for each member who remains standing for the prayer and doesn’t move their feet, twenty souls will be released from purgatory. Mattie McGrath is a disgrace that he didn’t ensure this was included in the standing orders.
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Like Hell – Thew Catholic church abandoned the Myth of Purgatory a few years ago; was based on the Greek three afterlifes, the Romans passed onto them.
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Purgatory still seems to be there in the catechism:
http://www.vatican.va/archive/EN0015/__P2N.HTM
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You’re thinking of Limbo?
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http://www.oireachtas.ie/members-hist/default.asp?housetype=0&HouseNum=31&MtemberID=2292&ConstID=91
Joan is an independent, not PBP, or has she moved again?
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Independents4Change but who cares about facts @RTE & Irish Times http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/tds-must-now-stand-for-d%C3%A1il-prayer-and-30-seconds-of-silent-reflection-1.3071324
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Yeah, to be honest that was the thing I was getting at in the title. JC being put down as Solidarity-PBP
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This shows if nothing else, why we won’t see the recommendations of the citizens assembly implemented.
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Joan Collins, TD, finds “it incredible that we are debating this issue. This is the twenty-first century. We need to move on….I have not been sent here by the votes of the people in Dublin South Central to have my words and actions directed by Jesus Christ.”
http://thepensivequill.am/2017/05/amen-or-omen.html
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Brilliant.
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Why did the Shinners abstain? Anyone know?
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1. They are not sure which way the wind is blowing on some issues. 2. They regard the Dail prayer as a frivolous issue in present circumstances. 3. Some Sinn Feiners belong to a Christian denomination. 4. They are not in the business of pleasing the Dublin ‘wild secular left’, and north of the border the secular left wins nul points.
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Senan moloney in the Daily Mail yesterday called Joan Collins a Solidarity TD
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In an actual church, people aren’t compelled to stand up during prayers
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Arguably unconstitutional
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